Yep. So am I gathering form your argument that you posit the notion that maybe Iraqis enjoy being raped and murdered?
No, my argument is that the Iraqi people are not begging for the US military to roll back into their country.
ISIS bans guns in the regions they have conquered and the people are defenseless against the brutal whims of ISIS.
The country is awash in guns. They may "ban" guns in their territory but there's a lot of territory they don't control. Rooting out weapon cache's is not easy....the idea that ISIS could effectively shut down access to weapons just doesn't strike me as likely.
It's entirely the same thing. ISIS targets Christians and other non-Muslims first and then moves on to Muslims who to not follow the ISIS brand of Islam. This type of population control through fear is as old as humanity.
The NAZI party had overwhelming support of their country. It wasn't a party that took over against the wishes of their people. From what you write you don't believe that...you believe that the vast majority of the country disagrees with ISIS control...unless I am getting your position wrong.
The defense forces of Mosul were ill equipped and the ISIS attack was well planned with coordinated suicide attacks against key defense positions and armories. Mosul also held many sleeper cells who aided in undermining defense attempts in the city.
It doesn't matter...let's say ISIS conducted this masterful attack on Mosul and Iraqi forces just couldn't hold up. The response is that the overall better equipped and better trained Iraqi army sweeps in and massacres ISIS militants.
The alternative would be to let Iraq fall to ISIS. The Iraq forces were not prepared to mount an adequate defense across their entire boarder and lacked the intel and logistics that they had relied on the US for. It is entirely accurate to say that the Iraqi army was woefully equipped and corrupt. What I don't get is why that is used as justification for letting the Iraqi people, especially the Iraq minorities, be brutally murdered by ISIS.
Because after a 10 year occupation and nearly a trillion spent we couldn't create a self sustaining government/military in Iraq? Are we forever committed to stationing armies in Iraq and policing their state? Why are you more concerned with Iraqi minorities than you are people anywhere in the world? Why is it so important that the one nation has US funded and created security at any expense?
They have toppled an army many times their size and grown on each victory, maybe you should stop parroting Obama's "JV" argument.
They would be easily dispatched by US forces, but absent US forces the Iraqis are demonstrably unable to cope.
Because the army they fought was ****! Those soldiers had as much faith and willingness to fight as Iraqi Republican Guard troops had to die for Saddam. It's a paycheck for them. They weren't going to die for the Iraqi parliment or the Iraqi nation. How is it that that the Kurds are kicking ISIS's ass so badly? 5,000 Kurdish fighters just swept across northern Iraq! 5,000!!!! The Iraqi military had 280,000 individuals in their military!
FOUR DIVISIONS collapsed in northern Iraq battling ISIS with few thousand. That is impossible....that are feats that only the US military could do with the help of US air power and our technology. The Iraqi army is just bad man. They had no will to fight or potentially die for their country. They were just in the uniform for a paycheck.
What you are missing in this scenario is that the Iraqi army has to defend all cities in Iraq from potential attack. I am not arguing that the Iraqi army is that bad, they obviously are. That is not an excuse for sitting by while ISIS takes over Iraq.
I agree with you to a certain extent...It's not like I'm completely disagreeing that ISIS is bad news and they do horrible things. I'm just curious how this same scenario doesn't play out again after we take out ISIS and hand over Iraq back to their own government. We would have to do something radically different...like split the country up with a Kurdish north and split Sunni's and Shiit's because nobody in that country seems to have a strong allegiance to the idea of Iraq.
I'm just worried that any rollback of ISIS will just create a vaccuum taken advantage of by another militant group. As I've pointed out....ISIS isn't special, they don't have capabilities that can't easily be replicated by any other group with a few small arms and some fantatics willing to die by the cause.