US Democrats lash socialist organization for backing rally supporting Hamas attack

[braindrain]

I'm just responding to your posts.

And some of the most staunch segregationists and slave owners were very religious, and could quote bible passages that justified their racism.

My grandfather was a very religious man, he was also in the KKK.

No you are not. You are ducking and dodging with a little deflection thrown in.

Cool story. I don’t really care.

 

[braindrain]

I don't, I was agreeing with you. I was only elaborating on your point to head off the bullshit false equivalencies the forums terrorist apologists will make.

My misunderstanding.

 

[braindrain]

Lots of folks LYING about others supporting Hamas. GOPs are cafeteria supporters of Israel, especially Nixon in 1973, with Sununu. Five years after Nixon torched the Paris Peace talks.

Yes keep denying reality. It’s a good look for you.

 

[dobieg]

Do you really think that people in Alabama wouldn't stone gay or trans people to death if the government would allow it?

Uh no. Only a goofy assed antisemite liberal would think so.

 

[cpwill]

At a Meta level, I appreciate how the thread is highlighting the division in the democrat party between its leadership and its base on the topic.

At an individual level, drawing an equivalence between raping and then murdering a young girl and shooting the kind of person who rapes and murders young girls is abhorrent.

 

[MrNiceGuy]

This is the squads organization at work. Un****ing believable. It's no different than holding a rally in support of Al Qaeda in the aftermath of 9/11. I am glad the mainstream of the Democratic Party has totally condemned this reprehensible protest

US Democrats lash socialist organization for backing rally supporting Hamas attack

Democratic Socialists of America castigated by US Congress members, NY leadership after supporting protest; dozens of Harvard student groups blame Israel for terror onslaught

www.timesofisrael.com

Does the DSA and the Squad want the US to intervene on the side of Hamas against the Israelis? Because if the resistance is justice, and justified, then wouldn't that be the side we should support?

 

[samiam5211]

At a Meta level, I appreciate how the thread is highlighting the division in the democrat party between its leadership and its base on the topic.

At an individual level, drawing an equivalence between raping and then murdering a young girl and shooting the kind of person who rapes and murders young girls is abhorrent.

No one is drawing an equivalence between raping and killing then killing the rapist.

The equivalence is between killing innocents in retaliation for innocents being killed.

 

[cpwill]

No one is drawing an equivalence between raping and killing then killing the rapist.

Sadly, that is not correct:

Actually, Israel has ALREADY killed more Palestinians, than Hamas killed of Israelis.

Hamas: Targets as many innocents as possible

Israel: Targets Hamas

A Certain Kind of Person: "These two things are the same. "

 

[cpwill]

Does the DSA and the Squad want the US to intervene on the side of Hamas against the Israelis?

Yes. I think it was Omar who called due Hamas to be rewarded?

 

[NatMorton]

So when terrorists take revenge on behalf of Palestinians, and blow up a civilian target in the US, we really should stop and think about "who started it.

But of course, you're not taking sides, right?

 

[samiam5211]

Sadly, that is not correct:


Hamas: Targets as many innocents as possible

Israel: Targets Hamas

A Certain Kind of Person: "These two things are the same. "

Oh then yea, count me in that number.

Israel has killed more civilians at this point than Hamas. I don't care about intentions.

 

[PeteEU]

The Palestinians elected Hamas.

Israel helped create Hamas as a counterweight to Arafat and Fatah..

 

[Jack Fabulous]

No one is drawing an equivalence between raping and killing then killing the rapist.

The equivalence is between killing innocents in retaliation for innocents being killed.

The highlighted sentence is just blatant dishonesty.

When Hamas attacked, they purposely targeted innocent civilians and their intent was to kill, maim, and injure as many as possible and to take hostages. Israel's attack is focused on destroying Hamas, it's leadership, and it's infrastructure. As a side effect many innocent civilians are likely to die but they are not targets and their deaths are not purposeful.

If you cannot see the difference, then you are beyond hope.

 

[samiam5211]

The highlighted sentence is just blatant dishonesty.

When Hamas attacked, they purposely targeted innocent civilians and their intent was to kill, maim, and injure as many as possible and to take hostages. Israel's attack is focused on destroying Hamas, it's leadership, and it's infrastructure. As a side effect many innocent civilians are likely to die but they are not targets and their deaths are not purposeful.

If you cannot see the difference, then you are beyond hope.

Israel knows that every bomb they drop will kill civilians.

 

[ALiberalModerate]

No one is drawing an equivalence between raping and killing then killing the rapist.

The equivalence is between killing innocents in retaliation for innocents being killed.

Did Hamas warn the Israeli citizens to leave the areas they were going to attack before they attacked?

Because if they didn't, there is no moral equivalence.

 

[samiam5211]

Did Hamas warn the Israeli citizens to leave the areas they were going to attack before they attacked?

Because if they didn't, there is no moral equivalence.

I couldn't care less.

That is a distinction made to give people like you a reason to rationalize the mass killing of civilians by the side you support.

Everyone knows that there is no where for people in Gaza to go.

I have not once defended Hamas killing civilians.

The only people defending killing civilians are the pro Israel crowd.

 

[dairyair]

The part you are ignoring is that the Israeli military conducts those attacks in response to terrorist acts from Hamas.

Funny how so many Hamas supporters like to forget that fact.

May 2021 - After weeks of tension during the Muslim fasting month of Ramadan, hundreds of Palestinians are wounded in clashes with Israeli security forces at the Al Aqsa compound in Jerusalem, Islam’s third holiest site.

After demanding Israel withdraw security forces from the compound, Hamas unleashes a barrage of rockets from Gaza into Israel. Israel hits back with air strikes on Gaza. Fighting goes on for 11 days, killing at least 250 people in Gaza and 13 in Israel.

Aug 2022 - At least 44 people, including 15 children, are killed in three days of violence that begin when Israeli air strikes hit a senior Islamic Jihad commander.

Israel says the strikes were a pre-emptive operation against an imminent attack by the Iranian-backed militant movement, targeting commanders and arms depots. In response, Islamic Jihad fires more than 1,000 rockets towards Israel. Israel's Iron Dome air defence system prevents any serious damage or casualties.

Jan 2023 - Islamic Jihad in Gaza fires two rockets towards Israel after Israeli troops raid a refugee camp and kill seven Palestinian gunmen and two civilians. The rockets set off alarms in Israeli communities near the border but cause no casualties. Israel responds with air strikes on Gaza.

Oct 2023 - Hamas launches the biggest attack on Israel in years from the Gaza Strip, with a surprise assault combining gunmen crossing the border with a heavy barrage of rockets. Islamic Jihad says its fighters have joined the attack.

Israel's military said it was on a war footing, adding it had carried out strikes targeting Hamas in Gaza and had called up reservists.

Timeline of conflict between Israel and Palestinians in Gaza

The Palestinian Islamist movement Hamas launched its biggest assault on Israel in years early on Saturday, firing a barrage of rockets from Gaza and sending fighters across the border.

www.reuters.com

Seems to be a 2 way street.
As it almost always is.

 

[Metric Mouse]

It's interesting to see a few Democrats trash their voters so thoroughly.

 

[Tigerace117]

At a Meta level, I appreciate how the thread is highlighting the division in the democrat party between its leadership and its base on the topic.

At an individual level, drawing an equivalence between raping and then murdering a young girl and shooting the kind of person who rapes and murders young girls is abhorrent.

Gee, given that most people’s objections are due to the fact that the IDF is routinely slaughtering civilians in far greater numbers than Hamas could dream of, that narrative is objectively false.

 

[MTAtech]

According to multiple reports, this billboard is currently being displayed on the Ayalon Highway in Tel Aviv, Israel.

 

[MTAtech]

Gee, given that most people’s objections are due to the fact that the IDF is routinely slaughtering civilians in far greater numbers than Hamas could dream of, that narrative is objectively false.

Hamas intentionally kill Israeli civilians.
Israeli inadvertently kills Palestinian civilians because Hamas intentionally launches rockets from residential areas, from schools and hospitals -- just to stoke moral outrage when Israel targets Hamas launch sites.

 

[Tigerace117]

Hamas intentionally kill Israeli civilians.
Israeli inadvertently kills Palestinian civilians because Hamas intentionally launches rockets from residential areas, from schools and hospitals -- just to stoke moral outrage when Israel targets Hamas launch sites.

Israel knows its tactics kill civilians en masse and continues them.

Pretty clear sign of intent.

 

[Deuce]

Even more old white people who cant identify a difference between supporting Palestinians and supporting Hamas.

 

[Metric Mouse]

I would rather people not judge someone because they are gay or had sex before marriage.

The world would be a less violent place if more people in the Middle East agreed with you.

 

[Deuce]

Sadly, that is not correct:


Hamas: Targets as many innocents as possible

Israel: Targets Hamas

A Certain Kind of Person: "These two things are the same. "

Israel kills plenty of innocent people.