US commander admits Biden's deterrence strategy failed in Ukraine

[lemmiwinx]

First, you lied with this ^^.

Now, you again lie.

Why?

This is what Biden actually said;
“And so, I think what you’re going to see is that Russia will be held accountable if it invades. And it depends on what it does. It’s one thing if it’s a minor incursion and then we end up having a fight about what to do and not do, et cetera.”

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No invitation or encouragement.

Biden said our response to Putin should be proportional to how far Russia invaded into Ukraine. Putin took this as a green light to go all in so here we are today.

 

[jnug]

Biden said our response to Putin should be proportional to how far Russia invaded into Ukraine. Putin took this as a green light to go all in so here we are today.

Putin was always going to try to go all the way. Stop trying to blame Biden for Putin's War of Conquest and butchery. Sorry...Its Putin that attacked and don't even start with some Chamberlain/Hitler, Biden/Putin false equivalency. That won't fly either.

 

[RaleBulgarian]

Biden said our response to Putin should be proportional to how far Russia invaded into Ukraine. Putin took this as a green light to go all in so here we are today.

You lied twice. Fact.

 

[RIP U.S. Democracy]

Biden has been attempting to turn abject failure into some kind of political victory but the truth has a way of coming out and in this cesspool administration the shit is rising to the surface.


"You as a combatant commander felt that you were part of an inter-agency effort intended to deter Vladimir Putin from invading Ukraine?"


That's correct," Wolters responded. "Deter and dissuade."

"Would it be fair to say that deterrence failed in Ukraine?" Gallagher pressed.


"I can't argue with your conclusion," Wolters finished.

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What does this have to do with Biden? Multiple presidents have been trying to deter Putin for years.

The reason Putin attack Ukraine is he felt that Trump had significantly weakened NATO. And Putin also saw a weakened America on Jan 6, with a traitorous Republican Party that no longer believes in democracy

 

[EnigmaO01]

Biden told Putin at the outset go ahead and invade Ukraine but just not too much. A second Russian genocide of Ukraine quickly ensued. If Putin is a war criminal why isn't Biden?

WTF?!

 

[PIPEWRENCH]

Perhaps you missed it. Biden never claimed that sanctions were a deterrent to Putin. In fact he has said just the opposite. As such your post really has no basis as a discussion topic and the whole damned thread is BULLSHIT for that matter.

What is bullshit is doing things that will not work.

 

[pocket aces]

What is bullshit is doing things that will not work.

What us bullshit is every anti American lie you post.

 

[iguanaman]

Everyone knew the sanctions were a joke. They didn't even work on Cuba. Clearly our media needs to get behind Biden. Hunter can wait until after this is over. He has been a loser his entire life. Nothing new here. We can deal with him after the Ukraine situation.

Biden is out matched as it is dealing with Putin. We don't need to distract him now. It can get much worse if Harris ends up in charge. We (our media and people) need to back our president when dealing with Putin. We can can hopefully elect a better leader at the next election. Putin needs to hear from our media that the people are behind our leader. It is our best option at this point.

LOL The Cuban embargo did work to prolong the communist regime and convince the Cuban people that we had deserted them. Had we kept up trade with Cuba the Castros would be long gone. Putin is a idiot for invading Ukraine and it has done the opposite of what he desired. He has strengthened NATO, weakened Russia and destroyed their economy and forever made himself a pariah in the eyes of most of the world.

 

[PIPEWRENCH]

What does this have to do with Biden? Multiple presidents have been trying to deter Putin for years.

The reason Putin attack Ukraine is he felt that Trump had significantly weakened NATO. And Putin also saw a weakened America on Jan 6, with a traitorous Republican Party that no longer believes in democracy

Putin waited for Trump to leave office so he could attack when a strong leader was in office. Only the left would believe such lunacy.

LOL The Cuban embargo did work to prolong the communist regime and convince the Cuban people that we had deserted them. Had we kept up trade with Cuba the Castros would be long gone. Putin is a idiot for invading Ukraine and it has done the opposite of what he desired. He has strengthened NATO, weakened Russia and destroyed their economy and forever made himself a pariah in the eyes of most of the world.

Castro died of old age waiting for the embargo to accomplish something.

 

[RIP U.S. Democracy]

Putin waited for Trump to leave office so he could attack when a strong leader was in office. Only the left would believe such lunacy.

Castro died of old age waiting for the embargo to accomplish something.

It's true, as I already discussed. Russia experts disagree with your Trumpster drivel. --

Expert on Russia Says That Jan 6 Was A Significant Factor Regarding Putin's Decision To Invade Ukraine

I speculated several weeks ago that one reason Putin decided to invade Ukraine is that he saw a very weakened America on Jan 6, as a bunch of traitors loyal to Trump and his fascist cult Republican Party tried to overthrow our government. I stipulated that Putin saw on Jan 6 that the...

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[Greenbeard]

Biden said our response to Putin should be proportional to how far Russia invaded into Ukraine. Putin took this as a green light to go all in so here we are today.

Doesn't make sense, if anything such a statement would encourage a small incursion over a larger move, which is what Biden was criticized for at the time. The fact that Putin went balls-to-the-walls makes clear his actions had nothing to do with that statement. He was going in no matter what.

 

[Hamish Howl]

You'd rather already be in a shooting war in Europe?

Well...Not him, you understand.

 

[RIP U.S. Democracy]

One of the biggest questions for the 2024 Presidential election....are Republicans stupid enough to start a nuclear war with Russia?

You definitely can't rule it out. Pretty terrifying prospect.

 

[PIPEWRENCH]

It's true, as I already discussed. Russia experts disagree with your Trumpster drivel. --

Expert on Russia Says That Jan 6 Was A Significant Factor Regarding Putin's Decision To Invade Ukraine

I speculated several weeks ago that one reason Putin decided to invade Ukraine is that he saw a very weakened America on Jan 6, as a bunch of traitors loyal to Trump and his fascist cult Republican Party tried to overthrow our government. I stipulated that Putin saw on Jan 6 that the...

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There are experts out there that will tell you the moon is made of cheese if they get paid for it.

 

[bullseyelqcs]

What is bullshit is doing things that will not work.

So what WILL work, oh wise one? The world is waiting for that answer.

 

[Razoo]

Biden told Putin at the outset go ahead and invade Ukraine but just not too much. A second Russian genocide of Ukraine quickly ensued. If Putin is a war criminal why isn't Biden?

who said ?

 

[Chainsawmassacre]

What the **** else was he supposed to say?

Russia is quite literally bombing the capital of Ukraine right now, it's blindly obvious that the deterrence strategy failed to stop them from invading.
It might have slowed them down a bit though, not sure we'll ever know one way or the other on that.

And it certainly didn't hurt to try.

Just say the truth and admit his threats if sanctions were meant to stop Putin. Quit lying to us Biden.

 

[CaughtInThe]

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[Chainsawmassacre]

Crushing sanctions with Europe/NATO cooperation continues to look like the best possible strategy.

As a punitive measure crushing sanctions is great but threat of them to dissuade Putin from invading was obviously a failure.

 

[Chainsawmassacre]

What a load of horse manure.

Biden has backed Ukraine, sanctioned the crap out of Russia and the oligarchs, and has helped fund and arm Ukraine like never before.
And Ukraine, our ally in this, is doing much better than anticipated...the Russians (our adversaries for those Republican out there who forgot), are taking huge loses and performing terribly.

All of this on the backdrop of Trump having agreed with Russia over U.S. intelligence.
Trump one again complimenting Putin calling him a genius, and his plan savvy.
Trump having been impeached for extorting Ukraine, withholding aid while trying to get them to give him (manufactured) dirt on Hunter Biden.

Trump HATES that Ukraine is doing well...he backed Putin after all.
So then his faithful no doubt have to come out and like good little cultist-sheep, try to do damage control...try desperately, like in your post, to make everything somehow Biden's fault if its bad....

And like clockwork here comes your thread trying to do just that. Pathetic.

Did Biden threats of sanctions stop Putin? Yes or no?
Have a nice day.

 

[Chainsawmassacre]

Would've been cited as the provocation that caused the entire conflict. Contrast with the Biden's actual painstaking efforts to dismantle every possible pretext for war in advance, leading to incredibly fast international consensus around a robust economic response when Putin went in anyway.

In your scenario, we wouldn't have the counterfactual (i.e., our reality) to know that Vlad's either nutty or dumb and was going in no matter what we did. As opposed to taking back leadership of the free world and uniting the liberal democracies as we have, we might be in a very different place now.

And there you have it. Biden operated from a position of fear instead of strength.

 

[Michael Cole]

As a punitive measure crushing sanctions is great but threat of them to dissuade Putin from invading was obviously a failure.

And yet, here you are, repeating the obvious, over and over and over. Kinda like a reverse shock collar. Or eyedrops from Looper.



Don't know what you get from repeating the obvious, but thanks. I haven't watched Looper in years. (did you hear about bruce willis?)

 

[Chainsawmassacre]

Would not have stopped Putin given that in his own mind this would be a walkover, compounded by how much Putin wanted and still wants Ukraine.

You are simply blowing smoke;
- did Putin attack....YUP
- Is it Biden's fault....NOPE

Lets not forget that lying murdering butcher Putin lied continually all the way up to his attack, claiming that he would not attack.

If Biden had flooded Ukraine with stingers and javelin missiles Putin would not have thought this was a walkover.

 

[Chainsawmassacre]

What does this have to do with Biden? Multiple presidents have been trying to deter Putin for years.

The reason Putin attack Ukraine is he felt that Trump had significantly weakened NATO. And Putin also saw a weakened America on Jan 6, with a traitorous Republican Party that no longer believes in democracy

Ukraine isn't a NATO country and NATO has stayed out if this conflict based on that so your attempt to blame Trump is a failure.

 

[PoS]

"Admits"?

@Chainsawmassacre


I think it's painfully obvious that Russia was not deterred, seeing as they did in fact invade and we've all known it since they did it. Where does the partisan compulsion come from to turn that into "commander admits"? Nobody called the invasion "fake news."

And on the counterfactual side of the coin, we also all know that had Trump been president you would be calling the invasion fake news. You'd be parroting the "just cleaning up nazis" propaganda and anything else Carlson/Hannity ordered you to say on Trump's behalf.

It must really burn your ass knowing that we were right about Trump all along, and that Biden has performed far better than Trump did and would have done.

LOL The trhead is about Biden and you immediately deflect to Trump like you always do. TDS noted!