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Update: Riot at trump nm rally... Mexican flag-waving mob...

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ALBUQUERQUE, N.M. (AP) — In one of the presidential campaign year's more grisly spectacles, protesters in New Mexico opposing Donald Trump's candidacy threw burning T-shirts, plastic bottles and other items at police officers, injuring several, and toppled trash cans and barricades.

Police responded by firing pepper spray and smoke grenades into the crowd outside the Albuquerque Convention Center.

During the rally, the presumptive Republican presidential nominee was interrupted repeatedly by protesters, who shouted, held up banners and resisted removal by security officers.

The banners included the messages "Trump is Fascist" and "We've heard enough."

Anti-Trump protests turn violent outside New Mexico rally
 

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Totally unacceptable! Waving the Mexican flag at an election rally in the US, ought to be a crime!

This is the US of A and there is no room for foreign flags at a campaign rally. Damn assholes make a big deal about the Rebel flag, but want to fly their...**** Em!
 

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Totally unacceptable! Waving the Mexican flag at an election rally in the US, ought to be a crime!

This is the US of A and there is no room for foreign flags at a campaign rally. Damn assholes make a big deal about the Rebel flag, but want to fly their...**** Em!

Why? People claim it's a first amendment to wave a confederate flag anywhere and anytime they want. What's the difference? The confederate flag is foreign. So you agree foreign flags are bad?
 

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Protesters assault Trump supporter in wheelchair...

No Donald Trump supporter is off limits to the leftists agitators — even a man in a wheelchair.

The Associated Press reports Trump supporters were “taunted” by the crowd outside the Albuquerque Convention Center on Tuesday evening.
VIDEO: Protesters assault Trump supporter in wheelchair - The American MirrorThe American Mirror

I don't condone whats being done here. But seriously..... someone has to point out that this wouldn't bother Trump in the least.


Trump mocks reporter with disability - CNN Video
 

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Totally unacceptable! Waving the Mexican flag at an election rally in the US, ought to be a crime!

This is the US of A and there is no room for foreign flags at a campaign rally. Damn assholes make a big deal about the Rebel flag, but want to fly their...**** Em!

The difference being....

The Rebel flag is (nearly) universally perceived as a statement of racism against african americans.

The Mexican flag could mean a few things. "We're human too" is one of them. "We're doing our best to piss you guys off!" is another. You have exactly zero reasons to claim its unacceptable.
 

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The difference being....

The Rebel flag is (nearly) universally perceived as a statement of racism against african americans.

Except of course it's not. The majority of the country does not see the flag as a symbol of racism.
 

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Except of course it's not. The majority of the country does not see the flag as a symbol of racism.

Then why is there such a problem? Or do you think maybe you have it wrong?
 

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Except of course it's not. The majority of the country does not see the flag as a symbol of racism.

Not sure that's a true statement. Regardless, it is the Losers Flag.
 

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Totally unacceptable! Waving the Mexican flag at an election rally in the US, ought to be a crime!

This is the US of A and there is no room for foreign flags at a campaign rally. Damn assholes make a big deal about the Rebel flag, but want to fly their...**** Em!


Damn, man, even most of us who think the US government shouldn't fly the Confederate flag don't think it should be illegal for individuals to fly it. Why should flying any flag at a protest be illegal?
 

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Not sure that's a true statement. Regardless, it is the Losers Flag.

I seem to remember 25% of whites view it as racist and 75% of blacks view it as racist.

So whether it is racist or not, it is certainly divisive.
 

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Why? People claim it's a first amendment to wave a confederate flag anywhere and anytime they want. What's the difference? The confederate flag is foreign. So you agree foreign flags are bad?

Not foreign at all! That's total BS! The Confederate flag represented a large portion of Americans, right up into Virginia and W.Va. I say it is a First Amendment right, even thou the South lost the war. A Mexican flag represents another country and has no place in the United States, other than some barrio!

I don't condone whats being done here. But seriously..... someone has to point out that this wouldn't bother Trump in the least.

Trump mocks reporter with disability - CNN Video

Of course it won't bother Trump, just makes him more determined .................as it does me to elect him.

The difference being....

The Rebel flag is (nearly) universally perceived as a statement of racism against african americans.

The Mexican flag could mean a few things. "We're human too" is one of them. "We're doing our best to piss you guys off!" is another. You have exactly zero reasons to claim its unacceptable.

That's a perverted view of what the Rebel Flag stands for! It's a symbol of our history....the Mexican flag is a symbol of beating the Mexicans into submission, after the Alamo!

Except of course it's not. The majority of the country does not see the flag as a symbol of racism.

That is correct! I'm probably older than many on this forum....and I have never regarded that flag as a racist anything! It's total made up bull****!

Then why is there such a problem? Or do you think maybe you have it wrong?

Nope, I don't have it wrong and neither does Henrin!

Not sure that's a true statement. Regardless, it is the Losers Flag.

If that represents a losers flag, why are we bending over backwards to support the American Indians? They LOST the war too! Why do we go overboard supporting the Red man and trash the White man?

Damn, man, even most of us who think the US government shouldn't fly the Confederate flag don't think it should be illegal for individuals to fly it. Why should flying any flag at a protest be illegal?

Because it represents a foreign nation and the Confederate flag does not.

And....I have no problem with Southern States flying the Confederate flag at public buildings....it is a SYMBOL of our History!
 

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I seem to remember 25% of whites view it as racist and 75% of blacks view it as racist.

So whether it is racist or not, it is certainly divisive.

Divisive is in the eye of liberals....it's their stock in trade!!

Hells bells.....I grew up thinking that it represented The Dukes of Hazard!:2razz:

Long Live the General Lee!


 
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Not foreign at all! That's total BS! The Confederate flag represented a large portion of Americans, right up into Virginia and W.Va. I say it is a First Amendment right, even thou the South lost the war. A Mexican flag represents another country and has no place in the United States, other than some barrio!



Of course it won't bother Trump, just makes him more determined .................as it does me to elect him.



That's a perverted view of what the Rebel Flag stands for! It's a symbol of our history....the Mexican flag is a symbol of beating the Mexicans into submission, after the Alamo!



That is correct! I'm probably older than many on this forum....and I have never regarded that flag as a racist anything! It's total made up bull****!



Nope, I don't have it wrong and neither does Henrin!



If that represents a losers flag, why are we bending over backwards to support the American Indians? They LOST the war too! Why do we go overboard supporting the Red man and trash the White man?



Because it represents a foreign nation and the Confederate flag does not.

Um, a rather large portion of the Southwestern United States once was in fact Mexico, just like a large portion of the Southeastern once in fact the Confederate. The confederate flag does not represent the USA just like the Mexican flag doesn't. Of course, when all the "freedom" stuff about the confederate flag is being screamed, you know it's not about the freedom but about a certain flag.
 

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Divisive is in the eye of liberals....it's their stock in trade!!

Hells bells.....I grew up thinking that it represented The Dukes of Hazard!:2razz:

Long Live the General Lee!

Wow, you never read one US history book growing up? Explains it though.
 

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Divisive is in the eye of liberals....it's their stock in trade!!

Hells bells.....I grew up thinking that it represented The Dukes of Hazard!:2razz:

Long Live the General Lee!



I will concede that show was awesome. :)
 

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If that represents a losers flag, why are we bending over backwards to support the American Indians? They LOST the war too! Why do we go overboard supporting the Red man and trash the White man?

First off the Confederate flag does represent a foreign country, fictional as it may be. It represents the Confederate States of America. The CSoA is distinct and separate from the USA. Even though the CSoA doesn't exist, because they lost, the Confederate flag is still a foreign flag. It is the flag of a loser rebellion that didn't have the strength to stand on its own. But it certainly is no flag of the USA.

As for your victims card trying to cry about how we treat native Americans better than white folk (nice use of racism), that's clearly false. American Indians had their land taken, we never gave it back. They were forced into reservations, and now the best thing they have going are casinos. We broke them, we still treat them as third class. We pay some superficial mind to them, pretending to care by getting upset at racist terms like Redskins. But we'll never give their land back.

Is that should have done with the Confederacy? Forced all of them onto reservations, taken their land, pay lip service to them but do nothing to actually help? Oh poor little white guy, can't fly his loser flag (actually they can). Oh how oppressed you must be. :Roll:

The victim card is weak. And the loser flag is the flag of another country that couldn't win it's own. It's not of the USA. It's just a flag of losers.
 

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Um, a rather large portion of the Southwestern United States once was in fact Mexico, just like a large portion of the Southeastern once in fact the Confederate. The confederate flag does not represent the USA just like the Mexican flag doesn't. Of course, when all the "freedom" stuff about the confederate flag is being screamed, you know it's not about the freedom but about a certain flag.

The Reb flag was part of America......the Mexican flag was NEVER part of America. We kicked Mexican ass after the fall of the Alamo in 1836 and the US took over the Southwest!

Wow, you never read one US history book growing up? Explains it though.

I have read plenty of history books, it was one of my favorite subjects in high school and college....and never once did I read that the Reb flag had anything to do with racism. The war really wasn't just about slavery either....it was a lot about economics, agriculture vs. industrial and many in the North, even had slaves of their own.
Over time it has been bastardized to be only about slavery.....and there was a lot more going on then that!

You must be reading some of those "liberal revised" history books!

I will concede that show was awesome. :)

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First off the Confederate flag does represent a foreign country, fictional as it may be. It represents the Confederate States of America. The CSoA is distinct and separate from the USA. Even though the CSoA doesn't exist, because they lost, the Confederate flag is still a foreign flag. It is the flag of a loser rebellion that didn't have the strength to stand on its own. But it certainly is no flag of the USA.

As for your victims card trying to cry about how we treat native Americans better than white folk (nice use of racism), that's clearly false. American Indians had their land taken, we never gave it back. They were forced into reservations, and now the best thing they have going are casinos. We broke them, we still treat them as third class. We pay some superficial mind to them, pretending to care by getting upset at racist terms like Redskins. But we'll never give their land back.

Is that should have done with the Confederacy? Forced all of them onto reservations, taken their land, pay lip service to them but do nothing to actually help? Oh poor little white guy, can't fly his loser flag (actually they can). Oh how oppressed you must be. :Roll:

The victim card is weak. And the loser flag is the flag of another country that couldn't win it's own. It's not of the USA. It's just a flag of losers.

I fully disagree in that the Reb flag is a foreign flag....it represents a "unique" part of American history. To me it's as important to our history as Davy Crockett, Jim Bowie and Jack Daniels! The Reb spirit still lives on in the South, just like Moonshine. And growing up in the West, I have no problem with that whatsoever!
I do have a problem with both legal and illegals from Mexico coming here and telling us that the Mexican flag is prominent in America, by the way it is displayed.....it isn't .........and never should be!
 

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The Reb flag was part of America......the Mexican flag was NEVER part of America. We kicked Mexican ass after the fall of the Alamo in 1836 and the US took over the Southwest!



I have read plenty of history books, it was one of my favorite subjects in high school and college....and never once did I read that the Reb flag had anything to do with racism. The war really wasn't just about slavery either....it was a lot about economics, agriculture vs. industrial and many in the North, even had slaves of their own.
Over time it has been bastardized to be only about slavery.....and there was a lot more going on then that!

You must be reading some of those "liberal revised" history books!



:thumbs:

If the rebel flag was part of the United States of America, explain then why it's actually the battle flag of Northern Virginia and began use in December 1861, about 8 months or so after Virginia succeeded from the United States of America? Meaning it's not part of the United States but the Confederate States, a different country.
 

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The Mexican flag being flown they way it is being displayed is a flag of conquest. They have taken over California and incidentally, it's welfare system. The democrats have used demographics to extinguish the Republican party in California, and the democrats plan to extinguish the party nationwide the same way. Now some of you here like that, but the governor is emptying the prisons of "low level offenders" I. E. those who copped a plea and is now sending them into your neighborhoods.

And yes, we are the state where mayhem is normalized because there aren't enough cops, the prisons are overflowing, and more and more illegals are arriving everyday picking up benefit checks, free medical. Good luck with that. And don't think they integrate into a workforce. They don't like blacks and they don't like whites, so don't expect a fair shake from your new supervisor at work.

No one in power in the state cares, so I can understand why the Mexicans feel so bold at the tell the rest of America to "shove it, we're here, deal with it".

Where are the blacks? They are the ones losing the most jobs. Mexicans are also covered by affirmative action, but they get hired and blacks don't. The Asians just hide in white collar jobs, live together in their little communities. They become invisible after working hours.

Where's BJM? (Black Jobs Matter)... Well, I just made that up...

And hey, if you can burn an American flag, then you can sure as hell fly a rebel flag if you want.
 

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I'd like to add that I have no problem with Hispanic people who are here legally.

I like all their food....I like their music.... and their culture.

But I maintain that if you live in America, you should obey all laws, respect our culture and you should be flying the American Flag at public events and ONLY the American Flag.
 

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I fully disagree in that the Reb flag is a foreign flag....it represents a "unique" part of American history. To me it's as important to our history as Davy Crockett, Jim Bowie and Jack Daniels! The Reb spirit still lives on in the South, just like Moonshine. And growing up in the West, I have no problem with that whatsoever!
I do have a problem with both legal and illegals from Mexico coming here and telling us that the Mexican flag is prominent in America, by the way it is displayed.....it isn't .........and never should be!

You can fully disagree all you want. But the rebel flag represents the Confederate States of America which is distinct and separate from the United States of America. The CSoA was a foreign country, for the brief period it was in existence. The rebel flag is no more a part of sovereign USA as a flag of any American Indian tribe would be.

The Rebel spirit does not still "live on in the south". The Civil War ended 1865. That's when the south was sent back home with their tails between their legs, and we haven't heard a peep from them since. Sure they claim the "south will rise again" but it hasn't and it won't. The south was beaten and made subservient and they have been subservient ever since.

The Rebel flag is as foreign as the Mexican flag. The only difference is that Mexico still exists while the CSoA does not. So at least the Mexicans can hold their own.
 

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I'd like to add that I have no problem with Hispanic people who are here legally.

I like all their food....I like their music.... and their culture.

But I maintain that if you live in America, you should obey all laws, respect our culture and you should be flying the American Flag at public events and ONLY the American Flag.

not like those Italians, flying the Italian Flag on Columbus Day....right?
 
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