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Really? That university shouldn't have any groups since they apparently believe that everyone has to be the same to be equal. Honestly what's the point of finding solidarity with like minded people in a group if your group isn't allowed to be run by like minded people? It's just stupid.
Nobody said it wasn't allowed.
Really? That university shouldn't have any groups since they apparently believe that everyone has to be the same to be equal. Honestly what's the point of finding solidarity with like minded people in a group if your group isn't allowed to be run by like minded people? It's just stupid.
Thus making an explicit rule excluding them from such roles little more than an open attempt to flaunt the Universities rules in order to feign persecution.
I doubt any non-Christians would want to join. If a few did, I don't see any likelihood of harm from their attendance at events. Non-discrimination is the price you pay for obtaining a government funded subsidy.
My post is in reference to the OP article where a university sponsored club is not allowed to be university sponsored without becoming non-specific in their leadership in order for everything to be fair and equal.
I'm sure you knew that though...
Sixteen other Christian groups at that university have no problem accommodating the equality rules. This bunch are seeking martyrdom by refusing to comply.
A lot of other groups gave in too, it doesn't make the university any less ridiculous.
Does UM have classes in Black Studies? Chicano Studies? If so, are those subjects racially based?
People of any race can join clubs based on either of those things. Put the race card back in the deck.
Unless what they want to do is join a Christian club in order to learn about Christianity even though they are not themselves Christian, of course.
Gave in to federal law, yes.
The federal government, or state government of Michigan, will not fund discrimination on the basis of religion. I'm really sorry that this bothers you so much. You are, of course, free to start a club without that subsidy and then you can make being a Christian a requirement for leadership.
I know it's frustrating. The federal government, for some reason, refuses to fund my human sacrifice cult. Killing people in the name of Velariak the Destroyer is the core part of my religious beliefs, and they have the nerve to say that human sacrifice violates university rules.
I've just lost respect for the majority on this site.
That's such a shame, because we all were really craving your respect.
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Don't tell stupid lies, it makes you look bad. The University is obviously not trying to make everyone the same. You need to learn the difference between equality and equal opportunities.Really? That university shouldn't have any groups since they apparently believe that everyone has to be the same to be equal.
There's nothing wrong with that and nothing stopping people forming such an club. They just can't do it in the context of being a formally supported University organisation unless they can find away to work within the rules of the University.Honestly what's the point of finding solidarity with like minded people in a group if your group isn't allowed to be run by like minded people? It's just stupid.
Does UM have classes in Black Studies? Chicano Studies? If so, are those subjects racially based?
Don't tell stupid lies, it makes you look bad. The University is obviously not trying to make everyone the same. You need to learn the difference between equality and equal opportunities.
There's nothing wrong with that and nothing stopping people forming such an club. They just can't do it in the context of being a formally supported University organisation unless they can find away to work within the rules of the University.
Think of it this way; If someone wants to join the Christian club, they have to follow the club's rules just as if the Christian club wants to be part of the wider University "club", they have to follow the University rules.
That's an ironic choice of phrase in the context of a thread about a Christian organisation.
I'm suggesting exactly the opposite. Without the social aspects at University, a student might only ever see the people they're living with and the people on their course. The social clubs and societies are supported by Universities to encourage students on different courses, maybe even at different sites, to interact as part of the University as a whole. In my opinion, I think this would be better served by clubs open to anyone interested in joining, unifying rather than divisive.
That isn't to say I don't think Christians (or indeed anyone else) shouldn't form exclusive clubs, societies or churches, only that I'm not sure whether that kind of organisation is as much benefit to the University as a whole.
My personal opinion has absolutely nothing to do with this Universities policy. I guess it was my fault from trying to inject a little wider philosophy in to the discussion.
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