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Undercover NYPD Cop Watched SUV Driver Get Beaten

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"An off-duty undercover New York City police officer was among the crowd of motorcyclists on the scene as SUV driver Alexian Lien was beaten on Sunday, officials confirmed to ABC News today.

The undercover narcotics cop did not intervene in the beating out of fear that his cover would be blown, sources said."

It further reads:

"The information is part of the ongoing investigation by the NYPD and the Manhattan district attorney into the confrontation and beating that happened Sunday afternoon between a group of 20 to 30 motorcyclists and Lien, caught on video and uploaded to the Internet.

The officer's involvement is also the subject of an Internal Affairs investigation, sources said."

Uh oh, someone is in trouble!

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:shrug: In the Mossad, you can actually help engage in a terrorist act in order to infiltrate the group that you need to report on.


It's deeply unfortunate, but I can see why he made the call he did.
 

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"An off-duty undercover New York City police officer was among the crowd of motorcyclists on the scene as SUV driver Alexian Lien was beaten on Sunday, officials confirmed to ABC News today....

How can a cop be be undercover and off duty?

He was a motorcyclist who was there on his own time,

Oh. So he wasn't really undercover.



Apparently, that motorcycle gang were trouble where ever they went.
 

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So he should've just blown his cover, putting himself and his family in danger, to inject himself into a fight that still would've been 2 on 20-30?

Yeah, I don't blame him. If you remember the supreme court ruling, the police has no obligation to protect you, that's up to you and you alone.

How can a cop be be undercover and off duty?



Oh. So he wasn't really undercover.



Apparently, that motorcycle gang were trouble where ever they went.

You can be off duty while remaining undercover and in character. Maybe he had somebody with him.

Are you seriously misinformed enough to think that all undercover cops at the end of the day go home to their families and become their real selves again?
 

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Helping could have blown his cover, so I support him not doing so.
 

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That group of bikers is lucky. If that was me behind the wheel of an SUV vs a bunch of bikers looking to do that there would be much more than one in the hospital. I do not necessarily blame the cop for not bursting out. He was already on the scene of a group of outlaw bikers who were hunting a person down to gang beat him. He might have done some good, and he might have ended up in the same situation. I feel really bad for the people in the car because it was clear this gang went out to find a victim and antagonized a situation to the point where they put a family at risk. When you get to that point in the crazy road game you do not give. Cops have rules which is why you pull over for them, but you never pull over for someone else. Had they met someone like me I would have been going for score.You are on a bike, I have a car, you are getting hurt. I have played road warrior with other cars before, and there would be no fear in hitting a bike on a homicidal race. I don't know what those guys are thinking, but i would have played see how many bounces i can get before the final skid of blood.
 

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How can a cop be be undercover and off duty?



Oh. So he wasn't really undercover.



Apparently, that motorcycle gang were trouble where ever they went.

I thought the same thing lol
 

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That group of bikers is lucky. If that was me behind the wheel of an SUV vs a bunch of bikers looking to do that there would be much more than one in the hospital. I do not necessarily blame the cop for not bursting out. He was already on the scene of a group of outlaw bikers who were hunting a person down to gang beat him. He might have done some good, and he might have ended up in the same situation. I feel really bad for the people in the car because it was clear this gang went out to find a victim and antagonized a situation to the point where they put a family at risk. When you get to that point in the crazy road game you do not give. Cops have rules which is why you pull over for them, but you never pull over for someone else. Had they met someone like me I would have been going for score.You are on a bike, I have a car, you are getting hurt. I have played road warrior with other cars before, and there would be no fear in hitting a bike on a homicidal race. I don't know what those guys are thinking, but i would have played see how many bounces i can get before the final skid of blood.

lemme guess. You'll do something like this? LOL

 

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So he should've just blown his cover, putting himself and his family in danger, to inject himself into a fight that still would've been 2 on 20-30?

Yeah, I don't blame him. If you remember the supreme court ruling, the police has no obligation to protect you, that's up to you and you alone.



You can be off duty while remaining undercover and in character. Maybe he had somebody with him.

Are you seriously misinformed enough to think that all undercover cops at the end of the day go home to their families and become their real selves again?



Good point. I had the same question as she, but didn't think that way but good call.
 

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The cop will be a credible witness, wonder if he'll be for the prosecution or defense.
 

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Update that perhaps satisfies Clax's point
 

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Update....

Undercover officer arrested in probe of New York motorcycle gang beating | Reuters


(Reuters) - An undercover New York detective was arrested on Tuesday for his alleged role in the attack on an SUV driver who was chased for miles along a Manhattan highway by dozens of motorcycle riders, police said.....

Braszczok was charged on Tuesday with riot and criminal mischief, the New York City Police Department said. Local News 4 New York reported that Braszczok was off duty at the time of the incident, and had surrendered to police with his attorney.......read..."
 

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Why was the driver of the SUV targeted?

I have seen this group of riders before. There are tons of them.
 

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"An off-duty undercover New York City police officer was among the crowd of motorcyclists on the scene as SUV driver Alexian Lien was beaten on Sunday, officials confirmed to ABC News today.

The undercover narcotics cop did not intervene in the beating out of fear that his cover would be blown, sources said."

It further reads:

"The information is part of the ongoing investigation by the NYPD and the Manhattan district attorney into the confrontation and beating that happened Sunday afternoon between a group of 20 to 30 motorcyclists and Lien, caught on video and uploaded to the Internet.

The officer's involvement is also the subject of an Internal Affairs investigation, sources said."

Uh oh, someone is in trouble!

Source: Undercover NYPD Cop Watched SUV Driver Get Beaten

A hood rat is a hood rat no matter what job he holds.
 

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Why was the driver of the SUV targeted?

I have seen this group of riders before. There are tons of them.
May have cut someone off, encroached in someones lane, not yielded to one of them, looked at a few the wrong way. Whatever the reason of the day could be.
I rode for a long time, sometimes with badder boys than those video punks ever hope to be and never had anything like that happen.
 

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So he should've just blown his cover, putting himself and his family in danger, to inject himself into a fight that still would've been 2 on 20-30?

Yeah, I don't blame him. If you remember the supreme court ruling, the police has no obligation to protect you, that's up to you and you alone.



You can be off duty while remaining undercover and in character. Maybe he had somebody with him.

Are you seriously misinformed enough to think that all undercover cops at the end of the day go home to their families and become their real selves again?


A private citizen did intervene and neither he nor his life is in danger. That driver is facially disfigured and could have been killed - and probably would have as he was being slashed had that one person not intervened.

What is the point of an undercover cop if he is going to just watch someone get murdered?

OH, that's right, I get it! The goal of his being undercover was hoping to find drug dealing so the police could seize money and motorcycles to sell for more money. It has NOTHING to do with protecting anyone, just about how to get money.

And it would appear his cover is blown now anyway, huh?

What we learned is that the purpose of the undercover cop had NOTHING do to with the public or saving lives. It had to do only with how cops can get more money.
 

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Update....

Undercover officer arrested in probe of New York motorcycle gang beating | Reuters


(Reuters) - An undercover New York detective was arrested on Tuesday for his alleged role in the attack on an SUV driver who was chased for miles along a Manhattan highway by dozens of motorcycle riders, police said.....

Braszczok was charged on Tuesday with riot and criminal mischief, the New York City Police Department said. Local News 4 New York reported that Braszczok was off duty at the time of the incident, and had surrendered to police with his attorney.......read..."


Where is the part about him being fired?:roll:
 

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A private citizen did intervene and neither he nor his life is in danger. That driver is facially disfigured and could have been killed - and probably would have as he was being slashed had that one person not intervened.

What is the point of an undercover cop if he is going to just watch someone get murdered?

OH, that's right, I get it! The goal of his being undercover was hoping to find drug dealing so the police could seize money and motorcycles to sell for more money. It has NOTHING to do with protecting anyone, just about how to get money.

And it would appear his cover is blown now anyway, huh?

What we learned is that the purpose of the undercover cop had NOTHING do to with the public or saving lives. It had to do only with how cops can get more money.
Then why was he arrested yesterday?
Because while he was "undercover" at the time of the incident. He was not on case, he was on his private time. And he should have had the guts to interviene either way.
He just had to stop a fight, not pull his badge and gun. There is a word for guys like that. Begins with P ends with Y.
 

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May have cut someone off, encroached in someones lane, not yielded to one of them, looked at a few the wrong way. Whatever the reason of the day could be.
I rode for a long time, sometimes with badder boys than those video punks ever hope to be and never had anything like that happen.

They use their bikes to slow down and block traffic to open up highway for the group in front to speed on and race. Sometimes do tricks as well.
 

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Then why was he arrested yesterday?
Because while he was "undercover" at the time of the incident. He was not on case, he was on his private time. And he should have had the guts to interviene either way.
He just had to stop a fight, not pull his badge and gun. There is a word for guys like that. Begins with P ends with Y.


Pony?
 

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His own wife AND a cop didn't come to his defense. He must feel like a winner! SMH!
 

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Why was the driver of the SUV targeted?

From the video, my guess is the bikes got annoyed he wouldn't move to the right lane and continued to just ride through the middle of their convoy. Then an idiot got in front of him and breaked, causing non accident between the SUV and the bike

Basically, he was probably targeted because a lunatic on a bikes had road rage and acted like an idiot, and it all escalated from there.
 

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:shrug: In the Mossad, you can actually help engage in a terrorist act in order to infiltrate the group that you need to report on.


It's deeply unfortunate, but I can see why he made the call he did.

I've been told that in the Mossad, and according to strict Jewish law, the concept of murder applies only to killing another jew. The killing of a gentile is not considered to be "murder".
 
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