UN Nuclear Watchdog Chief: ‘Night and Day’ Difference Between Iran’s Nuclear Capabilities Before and After US Strikes

[Allan]

The pentagon already confirmed otherwise.

CIA says intelligence indicates Iran nuclear programme 'severely damaged'

It comes after a report leaked to US media said the attack had only set back Iran's plans by "a few months".

www.bbc.com

Maybe you didn’t hear about it because it’s in the real news.

She heard about it - in fact she was posting on my thread about the Defense Intelligence Agency report.

That wasn't going well for her so she decided to make her own thread, twice.

 

[multivita-man]

A bold, entirely vague claim followed by another entirely vague claim.

"I think the nuclear program, the Iranian nuclear program, has been set back significantly," he said on Fox News. However, Grossi added that he could not say for sure that the program had been set back years. "I don't know what is your metric," he said.

Dude is claiming on one hand that the “Iranian nuclear program has been set back significantly, significantly” by the air strikes, and other acknowledging that he really doesn’t know the extent of the damage done which, of course, he doesn’t.

As IAEA doesn’t have access to the sites hit during the strikes, the organization doesn’t have any more information on the extent of the damage than the U.S. Intel community.

I support preventing Iran from developing nuclear weapons, including by acting preemptively with limited/targeted military strikes, but I’m not accepting Grossi’s claims as gospel.

The only people who probably really have some idea as to the extent of the impact on Iran's capabilities is the Mossad, and I would take whatever 'assessment' that gets publicized with a grain of salt. There's so much bullshit in intel and war reporting generally because everyone in modern warfare realizes the role that information plays in terms of public support. It will probably take weeks to get a truer sense of the state of Iran's nuclear weapons program.

 

[Boots]

I wish Trump knew what he was doing and didn’t throw away Irans nuclear agreement for no reason.

I wish you had rooted for the success of the US back then, when it didn’t cost us hundreds of millions of dollars only to be mildly effectual.

I always bet on America. Do you?

 

[VySky]

This forum has mucho Iran supporters. Cheering for the other team.

 

[Boots]

This forum has mucho Iran supporters. Cheering for the other team.

It seems to be the majority, at least with this President in charge. Maybe that changes as the executive changes?

 

[snakestretcher]

Now THIS is the right kind of news reporting. Credible people who are named and quoted.

Good job, President Trump.

How do you quantify "significantly" and what evidence do you have? Quotes from interested parties don't really count. Remember the certainty and absolute conviction we were expected to believe that Saddam possessed WMD? How about Bin Laden and the laughable Tora Bora hollow mountain cartoon? I'd wager you believed all that crap too, unquestioning.

 

[snakestretcher]

This forum has mucho Iran supporters. Cheering for the other team.

Which nobody is doing-except in your imagination.

 

[bongsaway]

Now THIS is the right kind of news reporting. Credible people who are named and quoted.

Good job, President Trump.

You mean credible like Doctor Fauci?

 

[lynnwinslow]

How is this an example of breaking news? The source took a bunch of quotes and opinions from other sites that were published over the past couple of days and made an article out of them. What's the "breaking news" event? That some people disagree about what happened to Iran's nuclear capability? meh.

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UN Nuclear Watchdog Chief: ‘Night and Day’ Difference Between Iran’s Nuclear Capabilities Before and After US Strikes

The U.S. and Israeli strikes on Iran’s nuclear facilities set back the Islamic Republic’s program "significantly," the head of the United Nations’ nuclear watchdog organization said Tuesday.

freebeacon.com

I know who I'm going to believe. The report above. The detected radiation confirms Iran's centrifuge enrichment program was destroyed. It will be many moons before Iran will be near capacity. We all ought to pull together and feel thankful that
Trump did sent well trained undetected flyers to do the deed. God Bless our troops.

 

[CaughtInThe]

If you're a Trump fan at this point you're just grasping on to anything you can grasp on to.

I mean, he's taking FEMA away from Southern States during hurricanes.

How much more stupid can these people be?

 

[Mycroft]

How do you quantify "significantly" and what evidence do you have? Quotes from interested parties don't really count. Remember the certainty and absolute conviction we were expected to believe that Saddam possessed WMD? How about Bin Laden and the laughable Tora Bora hollow mountain cartoon? I'd wager you believed all that crap too, unquestioning.

First of all, the IAEA is hardly an "interested party". If anyone outside of Iran, itself, knows about Iran's nuclear programs, it's them. I dare say they know more about it than all of the US intel community combined.

Second, the battle damage assessment linked in the OP's article is quite detailed and specific and it quantifies "significantly".

Look, I know you have an uncontrollable aversion to anything that put's the Trump administration in a good light, but...you know...sometimes you just have to face facts instead of continuing your denial and deflection.

 

[ncguy]

This forum has mucho Iran supporters. Cheering for the other team.

Can you give me some names of people who actually cheer for around in this case? And an example of post to prove it? Since you claimed there are mucho of them so I'm sure you can list the number off the top of your head

 

[Loon]

When I hear the Islamofacists chuckle and claim the car-boot amount of 60% uranium was hidden away before the MOABS visited I will remind them about my cousin who had a dead Ferrari in his yard. He tells everyone he has a Ferrari. A piston went through the block when the engine blew up. He argues that the wind screen and tires are still working.

 

[CaughtInThe]

I never thought I would see an American President stop the unsolvable problem in the Middle East but Donald Trump has done it. In just one day

 

[ncguy]

When I hear the Islamofacists chuckle and claim the car-boot amount of 60% uranium was hidden away before the MOABS visited I will remind them about my cousin who had a dead Ferrari in his yard. He tells everyone he has a Ferrari. A piston went through the block when the engine blew up. He argues that the wind screen and tires are still working.

A car analogy to nuclear weapons? Lol

 

[eohrnberger]

Trix was so excited she posted it twice!

Irrelevant.

It will take a while to truly determine exactly what was destroyed.

This, I think, is probably the most accurate, given that the target is under some 300 feet of rubble.
That said the level of destruction which can be see from the intel imagery does support the assessment of the destruction of those facilities.

 

[VySky]

Which nobody is doing-except in your imagination.

BS

 

[VySky]

Can you give me some names of people who actually cheer for around in this case? And an example of post to prove it? Since you claimed there are mucho of them so I'm sure you can list the number off the top of your head

They lack self awareness to realize that is exactly what they are doing.

 

[ncguy]

They lack self awareness to realize that is exactly what they are doing.

So the answer is no. You have nothing but right wing Blather
Or maybe you just lack self-awareness

 

[VySky]

So the answer is no. You have nothing but right wing Blather

Facts are facts. The post speak for themselves. Go read them and don’t expect to be spoon fed.

 

[ncguy]

Facts are facts. The post speak for themselves. Go read them and don’t expect to be spoon fed.

I don't expect you to prove your claimed facts are actually facts
I do expect you to Blather
And you have lived up to my expectations!

 

[eohrnberger]

Exactly, it looks like someone knew what was coming from the information coming forth, so to jump the gun came up with this anonymous source taking the left by a storm. They simply are NOT going to give Trump credit for literally anything.

A manifestation of the 'Orange Man Bad!' line of argumentation.

They never learn, as November taught them nothing and are full steam ahead with even more BS......it's amazing, sick, and treasonous all rolled up into one big nasty bugger.

Yep, but what do you expect when isolated from reality and countervailing thoughts and opinions, and only being fed the information they get from their liberal / progressive media echo chamber / bubble?
Hence their cheering about CNN's 'anonymous sources' parroting what they want to be reality, which they now parrot and push to be the accepted reality, theirs and what they want it to be.
Its all rather cultish.

 

[eohrnberger]

Check themselves for what.......crabs?

Mind crabs?

 

[Fletch]

You really should use a credible source.

If the people quoted are experts in their fields, it's quite possible you can find other articles in which their names are mentioned. Articles in sources that are reliable re factual reporting.

Weird you didnt demand this same scrutiny for the unnamed sources who leaked that the bombing was a faioure.

 

[eohrnberger]

The pentagon already confirmed otherwise.

CIA says intelligence indicates Iran nuclear programme 'severely damaged'

It comes after a report leaked to US media said the attack had only set back Iran's plans by "a few months".

www.bbc.com

You'd give more credibility to an anonymous leaker, one who probably has a political agenda against the administration, over an independent 3rd party, the UN?
Well, you do you.

Maybe you didn’t hear about it because it’s in the real news.

What you believe is 'real news' is nothing more than what you, and others, want to be reality, as reported by the liberal / progressive media echo chamber / bubble, that you, and others, are parroting and are pushing to be the accepted reality. So nothing more than gaslighting and propaganda.

Thanks, but no thanks. I'll take the UN's expert's word for it in this case.