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UN Nuclear Watchdog Chief: ‘Night and Day’ Difference Between Iran’s Nuclear Capabilities Before and After US Strikes

Absentglare said:
The pentagon already confirmed otherwise.


www.bbc.com

Trump rejects leaked intelligence that says strikes did not destroy Iran nuclear programme - live updates

The US president insists the sites were "completely destroyed" by US military strikes.
www.bbc.com www.bbc.com

Maybe you didn’t hear about it because it’s in the real news. 🤷‍♂️
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She heard about it - in fact she was posting on my thread about the Defense Intelligence Agency report.

That wasn't going well for her so she decided to make her own thread, twice.
 
RaleBulgarian said:
A bold, entirely vague claim followed by another entirely vague claim.

"I think the nuclear program, the Iranian nuclear program, has been set back significantly," he said on Fox News. However, Grossi added that he could not say for sure that the program had been set back years. "I don't know what is your metric," he said.

Dude is claiming on one hand that the “Iranian nuclear program has been set back significantly, significantly” by the air strikes, and other acknowledging that he really doesn’t know the extent of the damage done which, of course, he doesn’t.

As IAEA doesn’t have access to the sites hit during the strikes, the organization doesn’t have any more information on the extent of the damage than the U.S. Intel community.

I support preventing Iran from developing nuclear weapons, including by acting preemptively with limited/targeted military strikes, but I’m not accepting Grossi’s claims as gospel.
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The only people who probably really have some idea as to the extent of the impact on Iran's capabilities is the Mossad, and I would take whatever 'assessment' that gets publicized with a grain of salt. There's so much bullshit in intel and war reporting generally because everyone in modern warfare realizes the role that information plays in terms of public support. It will probably take weeks to get a truer sense of the state of Iran's nuclear weapons program.
 
Mycroft said:
Now THIS 👆 is the right kind of news reporting. Credible people who are named and quoted.

Good job, President Trump.
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How do you quantify "significantly" and what evidence do you have? Quotes from interested parties don't really count. Remember the certainty and absolute conviction we were expected to believe that Saddam possessed WMD? How about Bin Laden and the laughable Tora Bora hollow mountain cartoon? I'd wager you believed all that crap too, unquestioning.
 
How is this an example of breaking news? The source took a bunch of quotes and opinions from other sites that were published over the past couple of days and made an article out of them. What's the "breaking news" event? That some people disagree about what happened to Iran's nuclear capability? meh.


trixare4kids said:

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freebeacon.com

UN Nuclear Watchdog Chief: ‘Night and Day’ Difference Between Iran’s Nuclear Capabilities Before and After US Strikes

The U.S. and Israeli strikes on Iran’s nuclear facilities set back the Islamic Republic’s program "significantly," the head of the United Nations’ nuclear watchdog organization said Tuesday.
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I know who I'm going to believe. The report above. The detected radiation confirms Iran's centrifuge enrichment program was destroyed. It will be many moons before Iran will be near capacity. We all ought to pull together and feel thankful that
Trump did sent well trained undetected flyers to do the deed. God Bless our troops.
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If you're a Trump fan at this point you're just grasping on to anything you can grasp on to.

I mean, he's taking FEMA away from Southern States during hurricanes.

How much more stupid can these people be?
 
snakestretcher said:
How do you quantify "significantly" and what evidence do you have? Quotes from interested parties don't really count. Remember the certainty and absolute conviction we were expected to believe that Saddam possessed WMD? How about Bin Laden and the laughable Tora Bora hollow mountain cartoon? I'd wager you believed all that crap too, unquestioning.
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First of all, the IAEA is hardly an "interested party". If anyone outside of Iran, itself, knows about Iran's nuclear programs, it's them. I dare say they know more about it than all of the US intel community combined.

Second, the battle damage assessment linked in the OP's article is quite detailed and specific and it quantifies "significantly".

Look, I know you have an uncontrollable aversion to anything that put's the Trump administration in a good light, but...you know...sometimes you just have to face facts instead of continuing your denial and deflection.
 
VySky said:
This forum has mucho Iran supporters. Cheering for the other team. 🤷‍♂️
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Can you give me some names of people who actually cheer for around in this case? And an example of post to prove it? Since you claimed there are mucho of them so I'm sure you can list the number off the top of your head
 
When I hear the Islamofacists chuckle and claim the car-boot amount of 60% uranium was hidden away before the MOABS visited I will remind them about my cousin who had a dead Ferrari in his yard. He tells everyone he has a Ferrari. A piston went through the block when the engine blew up. He argues that the wind screen and tires are still working.
 
I never thought I would see an American President stop the unsolvable problem in the Middle East but Donald Trump has done it. In just one day

🤣🤣🤣🤣
 
Loon said:
When I hear the Islamofacists chuckle and claim the car-boot amount of 60% uranium was hidden away before the MOABS visited I will remind them about my cousin who had a dead Ferrari in his yard. He tells everyone he has a Ferrari. A piston went through the block when the engine blew up. He argues that the wind screen and tires are still working.
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A car analogy to nuclear weapons? Lol
 
dseag2 said:
Trix was so excited she posted it twice!
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Irrelevant.

dseag2 said:
It will take a while to truly determine exactly what was destroyed.
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This, I think, is probably the most accurate, given that the target is under some 300 feet of rubble.
That said the level of destruction which can be see from the intel imagery does support the assessment of the destruction of those facilities.
 
ncguy said:
Can you give me some names of people who actually cheer for around in this case? And an example of post to prove it? Since you claimed there are mucho of them so I'm sure you can list the number off the top of your head
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They lack self awareness to realize that is exactly what they are doing.
 
VySky said:
They lack self awareness to realize that is exactly what they are doing.
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So the answer is no. You have nothing but right wing Blather
Or maybe you just lack self-awareness
 
VySky said:
Facts are facts. The post speak for themselves. Go read them and don’t expect to be spoon fed.
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I don't expect you to prove your claimed facts are actually facts
I do expect you to Blather
And you have lived up to my expectations!
 
redbeer said:
Exactly, it looks like someone knew what was coming from the information coming forth, so to jump the gun came up with this anonymous source taking the left by a storm. They simply are NOT going to give Trump credit for literally anything.
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A manifestation of the 'Orange Man Bad!' line of argumentation.

redbeer said:
They never learn, as November taught them nothing and are full steam ahead with even more BS......it's amazing, sick, and treasonous all rolled up into one big nasty bugger.
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Yep, but what do you expect when isolated from reality and countervailing thoughts and opinions, and only being fed the information they get from their liberal / progressive media echo chamber / bubble?
Hence their cheering about CNN's 'anonymous sources' parroting what they want to be reality, which they now parrot and push to be the accepted reality, theirs and what they want it to be.
Its all rather cultish.
 
Pyrite said:
You really should use a credible source.

If the people quoted are experts in their fields, it's quite possible you can find other articles in which their names are mentioned. Articles in sources that are reliable re factual reporting.
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Weird you didnt demand this same scrutiny for the unnamed sources who leaked that the bombing was a faioure.
 
Absentglare said:
The pentagon already confirmed otherwise.


www.bbc.com

Trump rejects leaked intelligence that says strikes did not destroy Iran nuclear programme - live updates

The US president insists the sites were "completely destroyed" by US military strikes.
www.bbc.com www.bbc.com
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You'd give more credibility to an anonymous leaker, one who probably has a political agenda against the administration, over an independent 3rd party, the UN?
Well, you do you.

Absentglare said:
Maybe you didn’t hear about it because it’s in the real news. 🤷‍♂️
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What you believe is 'real news' is nothing more than what you, and others, want to be reality, as reported by the liberal / progressive media echo chamber / bubble, that you, and others, are parroting and are pushing to be the accepted reality. So nothing more than gaslighting and propaganda.

Thanks, but no thanks. I'll take the UN's expert's word for it in this case.
 
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