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UN Nuclear Watchdog Chief: ‘Night and Day’ Difference Between Iran’s Nuclear Capabilities Before and After US Strikes

L88 said:
No one is surprised Iran's Shia extremists were cheating and lying to UN inspectors
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So instead of working to shore that up it’s better to throw the whole thing out? You can’t really believe that. Do you?
 
The redhats needed this "win." As zombie myths go let's go ahead and give it eight undeaths. They have something they can gish spam, and they're not going to stop galloping with it.
 
trixare4kids said:

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freebeacon.com

UN Nuclear Watchdog Chief: ‘Night and Day’ Difference Between Iran’s Nuclear Capabilities Before and After US Strikes

The U.S. and Israeli strikes on Iran’s nuclear facilities set back the Islamic Republic’s program "significantly," the head of the United Nations’ nuclear watchdog organization said Tuesday.
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I know who I'm going to believe. The report above. The detected radiation confirms Iran's centrifuge enrichment program was destroyed. It will be many moons before Iran will be near capacity. We all ought to pull together and feel thankful that
Trump did sent well trained undetected flyers to do the deed. God Bless our troops.
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Cool. Considering there are multiple versions of this and none are conclusive, some of us will wait for more information than just choosing to believe something because it fits our hopes. So per the article:

Rafael Grossi said:
Our assessment is that there has been some localized radioactive as well as chemical release inside the affected facilities that contained nuclear material—mainly uranium enriched to varying degrees—but there has been no report of increased off-site radiation levels
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This still doesn't tell us whether everything was destroyed or some was. If you want to have a Dubbya "Mission Accomplished" moment, enjoy.
 
TangoNoCash said:
So instead of working to shore that up it’s better to throw the whole thing out? You can’t really believe that. Do you?
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Throw what out? There was no "thing". Iran could have carried on with the non-development agreement with the other partners?
Iran has sponsored several terrorist groups, especially Hamas and Houthis that have killed Americans and destroyed lives around the world. (yeah what about the US)
Those terrorist are up shits creek now. Even Russia is too busy to assist them now.
There is now a ceasefire between Israel and Iran
It's not a bad outcome............so far. But we'll see.
I'm hoping for a better life in the future for Iranians and others.
 
L88 said:
The US damaged Iran's Nuclear weapons program
The money and weapon suppliers to Hamas and the Houthis.
There is a ceasefire for 24 hours so far between Iran and Israel
And people want to call this ineffective.
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It comes down to this, this forum by majority, (a leftist anti-Trump echo chamber) hates the idea of ☮️peace ☮️ happening under this president. Let them spin it and believe an intel leak if that's what gets them through their misery.
 
Gimmesometruth said:
You don't seriously believe US liberals want Iran to have nukes, why do you lie to yourself like this?
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Nobody really wants Iran to have nukes but do realize it’s probably an inevitability because it’s just science. We did it 80 years ago. Technology has drastically improved. A diplomatic solution is required but we’ve chosen the path of bringing more bombs. So the plan is to make them hate us even more and let them think the only way peace will be achieved is nuclear deterrence in their eyes. That’s a dumb plan in my opinion and makes them hate us and want to attack us back. We weren’t content with Israel being their nemesis we want it to be us. And then we wonder why they want to destroy us. We are not smart long term thinkers.
 
Fletch said:
Even your Iranian opinion masters are claiming that significant damage was done. What will you do now?
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Nonsense comment aside, the "Iranian opinion masters" have been claiming they're responsible for the ceasefire too and in case you haven't thought this through, it benefits them to have the US and Israel think their sites have been significantly damaged so they can not be targeted again since there's no on site verification of the extent of the damage. All of the information we have right now is based on satellite imagery which only reveals so much. Anyone interested in an actual accounting will want on the ground inspectors to assess this at all of the sites; Iran's word right now isn't a good one to take. A real test of Iran's willingness to play ball is to allow IAEA inspectors to check their sites.
 
L88 said:
Throw what out? There was no "thing". Iran could have carried on with the non-development agreement with the other partners?
Iran has sponsored several terrorist groups, especially Hamas and Houthis that have killed Americans and destroyed lives around the world. (yeah what about the US)
Those terrorist are up shits creek now. Even Russia is too busy to assist them now.
There is now a ceasefire between Israel and Iran
It's not a bad outcome............so far. But we'll see.
I'm hoping for a better life in the future for Iranians and others.
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There was no such thing? I’m not sure how someone could not know about the nuclear agreement but you do you.
 
trixare4kids said:

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freebeacon.com

UN Nuclear Watchdog Chief: ‘Night and Day’ Difference Between Iran’s Nuclear Capabilities Before and After US Strikes

The U.S. and Israeli strikes on Iran’s nuclear facilities set back the Islamic Republic’s program "significantly," the head of the United Nations’ nuclear watchdog organization said Tuesday.
freebeacon.com freebeacon.com





I know who I'm going to believe. The report above. The detected radiation confirms Iran's centrifuge enrichment program was destroyed. It will be many moons before Iran will be near capacity. We all ought to pull together and feel thankful that
Trump did sent well trained undetected flyers to do the deed. God Bless our troops.
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Trix:

1-I assume the comments coming out of Iran are all face saving bull shit
2-I assume Trump is a liar and can not be trusted about a thing
3-It is a fact that trying to speculate as to the degree of compromise done to any nuclear site simply by satellite without physical on the ground inspection is not accurate
4-it is possible the US engaged in a soft mission to provide Israel a cover to get a ceasefire after negotiation with Putin *which I think is probable) OR Trump engaged in a soft mission since Putin has compromised all US operations with their military to double cross Netanyahu
5-it is possible and I would say the most probable one mission to take out Fordow was not going to do it.

All that said I make no claims to know the extent and nature of the damage and no one can. I must tell you, in my subjective opinion it would take about 5 missions with B2's and bunker bombs do take out Fordow.

That all said I think it is obvious Trump is puffing up what happened, Iran is puffing up what did NOT happena nd interestingly Netanyahu has been shut up.

The little I know about the IDF is that they find Netanyahu and Trump just as problematic as do US High Command.

There will never be an end to this conflict without a regime change in Iran and the associated war by Putin in Ukraine ended.
 
The Brad Dad said:
Gee, I wonder why I said that in relation to the post I quoted.
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I'm guessing you're celebrating the Palestinian terrorists hijacking the Italian cruise ship Achille Lauro
What do you do on Leon Klinghoffer Day?
 
trixare4kids said:
It comes down to this, this forum by majority, (a leftist anti-Trump echo chamber) hates the idea of ☮️peace ☮️ happening under this president. Let them spin it and believe an intel leak if that's what gets them through their misery.
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Laughably daft. You seem to think criticism of the handling of this conflict is being against peace, but prior to this we did not have Israel and Iran lobbing missiles at each other. The US chose to not curtail Israel's attack and then joined in, so celebrating a ceasefire to a fight they started is an odd self congratulatory moment, especially when knowing this president was the one who created the conditions for Iran to expand their nuclear program. Cleaning up your own mess isn't really something to celebrate, it's the low bar expectation of what someone should do.
 
Pyrite said:
You really should use a credible source.

If the people quoted are experts in their fields, it's quite possible you can find other articles in which their names are mentioned. Articles in sources that are reliable re factual reporting.
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Hang on I debate Trixie all the time. The source used is credible. Why isn't it. You know I disagree with everything Trixie says I am trying to be fair here. Please Py elaborate because you and Trixie both do not b.s. on this forum. You are both up front on your stuff and I respect you both because of that.
 
TangoNoCash said:
There was no such thing? I’m not sure how someone could not know about the nuclear agreement but you do you.
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An attempted insult.
Whose sigs do you have on this piece of paper bro?
 
TangoNoCash said:
Nobody really wants Iran to have nukes but do realize it’s probably an inevitability because it’s just science. We did it 80 years ago. Technology has drastically improved. A diplomatic solution is required but we’ve chosen the path of bringing more bombs. So the plan is to make them hate us even more and let them think the only way peace will be achieved is nuclear deterrence in their eyes. That’s a dumb plan in my opinion and makes them hate us and want to attack us back. We weren’t content with Israel being their nemesis we want it to be us. And then we wonder why they want to destroy us. We are not smart long term thinkers.
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Its just another example of her making spurious assumptions about US liberals without any argument. She keeps acting like she can step across the aisle and debate, but she won't even bother to back her comments.
 
Gimmesometruth said:
Its just another example of her making spurious assumptions about US liberals without any argument. She keeps acting like she can step across the aisle and debate, but she won't even bother to back her comments.
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100%. I don't recall any posts actually addressing the actions or the regional dynamics that complicate regime change or a war with Iran.
 
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