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Ukrainian Sovereignty Was The Paramount "Western Value" That Was The Driver In Western Support Of The War. ( until it wasn't )

Fledermaus said:
I am responding in kind to Tigerace. I prefer Representative Republics and Constitutional Monarchies...
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But, you didn't address my question. Is human suffering better for you under fascism than communism?
 
Fledermaus said:
You said something relevant to the Communist dictatorships?
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It sure is fascinating how in over a century only one democracy ever “fell to communism”.

As compared to the numerous the US crushed in the name of “fighting communism”.
 
beefheart said:
But, you didn't address my question. Is human suffering better for you under fascism than communism?
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Actually it depends on the favor of fascist....

IIRC Italian fascism was less oppressive than Hitler's version. I believe Mussolini's brand would be superior to Stalin, Pol Pot, the Kim regimes, etc.
 
Fledermaus said:
Actually it depends on the favor of fascist....

IIRC Italian fascism was less oppressive than Hitler's version. I believe Mussolini's brand would be superior to Stalin, Pol Pot, the Kim regimes, etc.
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Oppression is oppression, you can't equivocate.
 
Fledermaus said:
Actually it depends on the favor of fascist....

IIRC Italian fascism was less oppressive than Hitler's version. I believe Mussolini's brand would be superior to Stalin, Pol Pot, the Kim regimes, etc.
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Tell that to the the Ethiopians and Libyans.

Or the Slovenes, for that matter.
 
DrewPaul said:
Back to Russia, Russia, Russia. Amazing how folks on the side lines with a nice home, hot and cold running water and plenty of food minus any bombs going off want the suffering to continue indefinitely. Not that they have any stake in it. No skin off their nose.
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You think the Ukrainian's suffering will stop if Putin achieves his ambition to annex the country? Given the amount of opposition he faces I wouldn't be at all surprised if he began offing his political opponents, as he usually does. America is enabling the murderous bastard, and all because of Trump's greed for Ukraine's mineral resources.
 
Fledermaus said:
Actually it depends on the favor of fascist....

IIRC Italian fascism was less oppressive than Hitler's version. I believe Mussolini's brand would be superior to Stalin, Pol Pot, the Kim regimes, etc.
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The only 'flavour' of fascism is that of human shit.
 
Fledermaus said:
Why say stupid things like that?

Now how many nations fell to Communist invasions and or insurrection?
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You have spent weeks claiming the Nazis’ Army was “forced” to commit genocide. Which is a lie.

Your despair that they and their allies “fell” can’t change the facts.
 
Fledermaus said:
Ask the Poles, the Estonians, the Finns, Lativians, Lithuanians, Hungarians, Czechs, Romanians, Koreans, etc. about the USSR.
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Every nation in bold was a Nazi ally, and therefore their whining is meaningless.

The South Koreans didn’t much like being under US backed mass murdering dictatorship, actually.

Which is why the latest coup failed miserably.
 
Word to the wise: Don't give up your nukes.

Every nation that has given up their nukes has been invaded.
 
Tigerace117 said:
You have spent weeks claiming the Nazis’ Army was “forced” to commit genocide. Which is a lie.

Your despair that they and their allies “fell” can’t change the facts.
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How many nations?

Tigerace117 said:
Which was the result of gleeful American support for colonialism, fascism, and apartheid.
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What a stupid thing to say.
 
Tigerace117 said:
Every nation in bold was a Nazi ally, and therefore their whining is meaningless.

The South Koreans didn’t much like being under US backed mass murdering dictatorship, actually.

Which is why the latest coup failed miserably.
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Estonians, Latvians, Lithuanians weren't nations after the Soviet invasion nor under Nazi occupation.
 
Fledermaus said:
Estonians, Latvians, Lithuanians weren't nations after the Soviet invasion nor under Nazi occupation.
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That’s like claiming Poland or France weren’t nations after the Nazis invaded....when their actions show otherwise extremely clearly.
 
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