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why should any other rich country "help pay the bills".The USA pay the bills for Europe's wars - we lead on NATONo NCO Corps - Officers make the decisions, and when significant numbers of Russian Officers KIA/WIA, new troops with little training arriving.
New long range artillery, more counter battery radars, more & deadly air defence, Kherson heating up
US has spent approx 8.2 B on lethal aid alone.
Time for other rich countries to help pay the bills.
Russia taking hundreds of casualties daily in Ukraine war -U.S. official
The United States believes Russia's military is suffering hundreds of casualties a day in its war in Ukraine, and with the loss so far of thousands of lieutenants and captains, its chain of command is struggling, a senior U.S. defense official said on Friday.www.reuters.com
Please note that the EU countries are contributing in 2 ways, national contributions and contributions through the EU. Now the contributions through the EU are not military weapons but money to pay the soldiers salary, money for state salaries in general and medical and human aid to internal refugees. The Committed budgetary support from the EU is (according to Ukraine) 12,3 billion euro (US 8,5). Several EU countries (Germany among those) have also contributed on their own to this, beside the military support.No NCO Corps - Officers make the decisions, and when significant numbers of Russian Officers KIA/WIA, new troops with little training arriving.
New long range artillery, more counter battery radars, more & deadly air defence, Kherson heating up
US has spent approx 8.2 B on lethal aid alone.
Time for other rich countries to help pay the bills.
Russia taking hundreds of casualties daily in Ukraine war -U.S. official
The United States believes Russia's military is suffering hundreds of casualties a day in its war in Ukraine, and with the loss so far of thousands of lieutenants and captains, its chain of command is struggling, a senior U.S. defense official said on Friday.www.reuters.com
I do confess, I have cheered when the Ukrainian army has killed big groups of Russians (or at least given a like to the post), In my defense I have to say it has given me a bad feeling which I have brushed of with the ends justify the means and that, if we disregard the conscripts from the war start, mostly the Russians are there by choice while the Ukrainians are there by necessity. Still, it is sad, young boys, mostly not war criminals (I have to believe), sometimes no more than children.
And in the end, it is al so unnecessary. Just one mans megalomania.
This
Some of these kids were lied to about where they were going.
Some of these kids that were aware of where they were going were intentionally ill-equipped.
Some were sent just to be fodder (mostly the minority groups of Russia).
I prefer to cheer more when their equipment is destroyed. That makes things end quicker for both sides.
Now I am predicting that after Kherson and the south, the Ukrainians will go for Crimea. After that the Russians will be very much boxed in in Donbass. Now, I would say Crimea in January, but I told another poster a month ago that I thought the Ukrainian would take back Kherson at the end of July so, I am in general a little optimistic.True, all of it. And sad it is indeed.
Yet when it's kill or be killed in an all out conventional war against a barbarian invader it's never been wise to stroll over to 'em to hand out chocolate bars. Or to say to 'em we understand their plight or something like we'll cover your retreat, just pick up your chocolate wrappers plse thx. We only hand out the chocolate to the bubbly and literal kids and only after we've seized and secured the place. And seizing the place could occur only after we shot enough of the invaders between the eyes. And blasted 'em to Kingdom Come by the truckloads. .
A best factor of the present turning of the worm by which Ukraine is gaining some initiative and momentum again is of course the long range US and NATO high tech artillery/missiles that destroy ammo dumps, rail trains, tracks, interchanges, command posts and so on.
We couldn't do this "clean" site only targeting sooner because UAF had to get secure area locations and positioning which means closer in while being out of Russian range, and because these very hapless Russian forces needed to be depleted to the maximum minimum and either stopped or driven back. Our guys have taken out a large number of Russian brass hats which is a sort of compensation for all the hapless Russian grunts we've had to kill or disable. We've terminated a lot of their most loyal and regarded BTG.
I'm not declaring victory just now and couldn't anyway cause to make the claim Putin would have to blow his brains out first. Or get 'em blown out for him. Yet it's a good indicator to see sympathy surfacing for the hapless Russians Putin threw into his man made maelstrom. It presents a lessening of an immediate war posture, ie, it's reflective rather than entirely kinetic. It's what we do when things are going better or well. Sit on the porch and say what a tragic shame it was. Such a waste.
It is strange for it to be so persistent. It tends to clear. I had it at eighteen. I couldn't walk or breathe deeply for a week, because I had it diaphragm and down, but I was full health within a month or so.He was diagnosed with this prior to the war
Yes that appears to be the case. Bakhmut then Kramatorsk and that wraps up the Donbas pretty much. Russia would then have the natural protective border of the Dnieper River. Will they stop there?
Thing is that the advantage to the Ukrainian army is that they have the US onboard. It doesn't matter if Russia gets parts or help from China or other countries because they mus
Afghan armed forces were riddled with corruption ( it's Afghanistan) The Iraqis fled from ISIS -tore off their uniformsTo have the US on board is good. But is not a guarantee. Wars are funny things. The Afghan Army had the US on board but folded like a deck of cards. The Iraqi National Army didn't quite fold, but didn't cover itself in laurels either. Vietnam is a long time ago. Korea as well.
Afghan armed forces were riddled with corruption ( it's Afghanistan) The Iraqis fled from ISIS -tore off their uniforms
and left all kinds of heavy weapons (we have weaponized Afghan so much - the Taliban cant begin to use what we left behind)
Ukraine seems determined to fight to the death despite the deaths and pulverization
We do get a lot of bang for our bucks from the Uk forces if you want to look at the ledger that way
Now I am predicting that after Kherson and the south, the Ukrainians will go for Crimea. After that the Russians will be very much boxed in in Donbass. Now, I would say Crimea in January, but I told another poster a month ago that I thought the Ukrainian would take back Kherson at the end of July so, I am in general a little optimistic.
Thing is that the advantage to the Ukrainian army is that they have the US onboard. It doesn't matter if Russia gets parts or help from China or other countries because they must produce, which takes time and can never measure up to the equipment the US already has ready to go, hence some of the Putin's advocates in this thread keep repeating that US should stop supporting the Ukraine with military equipments and let others (Europe) do it instead. There is no equivalence to the US military capacity in the world. They might get their wish true though after the election in November.
But if they don't, I'll say Crimea in January
I know, that is why that would be the gamechanger the Ukraine need to end the war. Right now, the fighting in Donbass is drawing the equipment away from the peninsula. The fight in the south will impoverish it more. There also still seem to be some resistance on the peninsula, if we measure on the attack at the Russian navy day.Liberating Crimea would be very difficult. Moscow has been turning the penninsula into a giant military base since 2014.
Kramatorsk is the big battle. Would Ukraine drain Kramatorsk to instead try to push into Kherson? Obviously most of this is theater to get more billions from the west. To lose Kramatorsk and not take Kherson would be a sign to the West. Would billions more be spent by the west at that point?There WILL be a battle for the littoral. It is no more up to only Putin. And it may be out of Zelensky's hands as well. Zelensky has sold the Kherson counter offensive far too much, now he is trapped in it. He must fight it. He owes it to Nancy Pelosi, Boris the Menace Johnson, the Poles, the Baltic midgets to fight it. They won't understand it if he doesn't.
The question then is whether Zelensky's Kherson offensive is launched before the Donbass is over or after. It will be dangerous for Zelensky to wait for Russia to close accounts in the Donbass. Major battles over in the Donbass will release far too many Orc Batallions for deployment to the south.
That puts Zelensky in a quandary of sorts. If the Kherson counter offensive has to be more than just stuff for tweeter then he has to strengthen the front to the max. All available mobile forces have to be sent there. But that may mean weakening the Donbass garrisons by stripping them of Brigades to be sent south. A death wish given that the Orc Batallions are unlikely to be distracted.
A failed Kherson counter offensive may not be cost free at all. The Russians are unlikely to just sit around if Zelensky runs out of steam. If the Orc artillery breaks up Zelensky's "Pickett charge" they are likely to make their own push past Mikolaiv to the Moldovan border.
At play is not just Kherson. Odessa is as well
Kramatorsk is the big battle. Would Ukraine drain Kramatorsk to instead try to push into Kherson? Obviously most of this is theater to get more billions from the west. To lose Kramatorsk and not take Kherson would be a sign to the West. Would billions more be spent by the west at that point?
But they keep retreating. At some point the money faucet will be turned off.WTF?
No, the goal is defeating the Russian Rape and Pillage Army.
But they keep retreating. At some point the money faucet will be turned off.
Kramatorsk is the big battle. Would Ukraine drain Kramatorsk to instead try to push into Kherson? Obviously most of this is theater to get more billions from the west. To lose Kramatorsk and not take Kherson would be a sign to the West. Would billions more be spent by the west at that point?
A spokesperson for Moscow's defence ministry alleged the US was approving targets for American-made Himars artillery used by Kyiv's forces. There was no immediate comment on the allegation from US officials. Russia previously accused Washington of fighting a "proxy war" in Ukraine. "It is the Biden administration that is directly responsible for all rocket attacks approved by Kyiv on residential areas and civilian infrastructure facilities in settlements of Donbass and other regions that caused mass deaths of civilians," Mr Konashenkov said. In April, Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said US President Joe Biden's decision to supply Ukraine with billions of dollars worth of arms meant "Nato, in essence, is engaged in a war with Russia through a proxy and is arming that proxy". "War means war," the 72-year-old warned.
Since 2014 US armed forces trainers and advisors of the UAF have used the South Korean model to develop UAF as a highly effective fighting force. In SK their armed forces trained with US Forces Korea and were always and continue to be integrated with USFK, to include up and down the chain of command. SK NCO and officers have long been up to par fellows with their US models making each armed force a force a fraternal multiplier to the other.One thing we found about the Ukraine Army, it has a apparently a good NCO and junior officer corps. It senior officers are rather good. NATO trained.
The corruption of favourism of the Ukraine has not deeply penetrated the military. If, the Army would have already collapsed.
. If Russia is seeing this as an existential struggle-
Gen Robert E Lee will not advice that. When Lee was in a similar fix at Richmond facing McClellan's juggernaut he did not split up his Armies to send a portion elsewhere. He brought Thomas Jackson down from the Shenandoah Valley to add to his mobile forces; with which forces he pulled off that end run around the Union right.