Re: UK EU referendum [W:40]
At the moment, this simply shows up poor planning on our part. If we have growth in an area and greater economic prosperity and income then taxes should be used to support local infrastructure. What has happened is Poles being seen as a drain when they very much contribute. Equally, we should encourage spread rather than localised overcrowding. That is not an EU or Brussels problem but a local UK reaction.
I don't imagine that if we did leave that we would solve the issue of Poles massing in certain areas - our politicians can be lazy on such matters. We'd still want them - though some people would argue against it; simply because the contribute and pay taxes.
Its not that easy, most immigrants want to live in the big cities, but the big cities are very big and it is hard to expand.
They can't really pay for their own infrastructure, they need the infrastructure immediately, but they will pay back over their lifetime. No matter how productive the immigrants are, too high population growth is not positive. Maybe it would be different with a better policy, but it is normal for the government to not be perfect. Other European countries are also building too little.
Hence it makes sense to keep population growth at a reasonable level. In my opinion that is below 0.5% in dense countries like the UK, and below 1% in more rural countries where it is easy to expand housing.
Agreed, this is something across the Eu that was probably (like Schengen) seen as a good idea but had unforeseen consequences. Like I said earlier - paying child benefit to kids who live in another country sounds wrong totally. I'd be interested to see what Poles who moved to work in the US and Iceland do regarding claiming child benefit for kids in Poland.
The problem is that the leadership in the EU disagree with you and me. They gave UK some token measures, but they are not willing to give anything significant, because it doesn't fit their agenda.
Iceland is part of EFTA and Schengen, hence they got the same rules. In the US, you will have to go home, if you are on a working visa and can't get a job. You can only get tax credits if your kid is living with you.
EU is preventing you from implementing reasonable policies, so why stay?
This to me is not of interest, it sounds more like the hyperbole some of our politicians and public engage in without factual evidence to back it up.
This is not hyperbole at all, you should listen to the politicians in the EU. Their failed policies show their intentions. For instance remember the eurobonds? The crazy idea to have a common bond market. This idea was supported by 17 member nations, was supported by the commission, and by a clear majority in the European parliament. They knew very well, that a common bond market, would give a lot of power to the EU.
Their intention is to create United States of Europe, and to do that they need to transfer power from national governments to the EU. This deal can't protect the UK, if that happens.
Well, I want to see what the leave campaign argues on this front before I vote for them. If we leave, I support the idea of a deal such as Canada is developing though obviously tailored to our needs.
I agree with this. I think UK will be better of outside the EU, and then you can at least decide your own future. If you stay in the EU, then you will be very vulnerable if EU goes against you, or does something crazy.
