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An interesting question is whether or not the US federal government can even CONSIDER a person's religion when crafting its laws.I am glad the Supreme Court chose health and safety in this case.
It looks to me that the court is willing to strike down federal mandates but isn't willing to do the same with state mandates.
Maybe because the precedence was already set over 100 years ago with small pox.
I'm just sad that mandates are even needed. I don't support government mandates. It should be a personal choice but I am very surprised to see so many people make the bad choice. Especially those who work in health care.
If you don't want to be vaccinated fine. Just don't expect to be able to work in certain careers. You are violating other people's right to not get infected with the virus and possibly die.
I support the fourth amendment and choice.
People have the choice to not get vaccinated but other people have the right to choose to not be around unvaccinated people.
Not to mention my favorite: I am exempt from paying taxes because my religion teaches me that paying taxes is an abomination in the eyes of Almighty God, worthy of condemning all those who do to eternal damnation.An interesting question is whether or not the US federal government can even CONSIDER a person's religion when crafting its laws.
After all,
IF "I am exempt from the laws requiring vaccination because I am a devout believer in the _[fill in the blank]_ religion which mandates differently.",THEN ""I am exempt from the laws prohibiting infant sacrifice because I am a devout believer in the _[fill in the blank]_ religion which mandates differently."
is equally valid.
It is not. One is what you're doing regarding your own body, while the other is what you're doing to someone else's body.An interesting question is whether or not the US federal government can even CONSIDER a person's religion when crafting its laws.
After all,
IF "I am exempt from the laws requiring vaccination because I am a devout believer in the _[fill in the blank]_ religion which mandates differently.",THEN ""I am exempt from the laws prohibiting infant sacrifice because I am a devout believer in the _[fill in the blank]_ religion which mandates differently."
is equally valid.
Sorry, but semantically (and legally), all forms of "I am exempt from the laws _[fill in the blank]_ because I am a devout believer in the _[fill in the blank]_ religion which mandates differently." are identical.It is not. One is what you're doing regarding your own body, while the other is what you're doing to someone else's body.
Infectious disease inherently affects the bodies of others. Literally by definition.It is not. One is what you're doing regarding your own body, while the other is what you're doing to someone else's body.
Yet it's not guaranteed to, unlike the immediate effect a sacrifice would. Getting vaccinated improves your odds of significantly surviving covid. Being sacrificed guarantees no such thing.Infectious disease inherently affects the bodies of others. Literally by definition.
A difference of degree, not of principle.Yet it's not guaranteed to, unlike the immediate effect a sacrifice would. Getting vaccinated improves your odds of significantly surviving covid. Being sacrificed guarantees no such thing.
The comparison was faulty in logic. I don't know what's so difficult about acknowledging that.A difference of degree, not of principle.
I also support health insurance companies' right to jack up the rates for unvaccinated people, just like they do for people who smoke.
If they can't consider it, then there are no exemptions for religious beliefs.An interesting question is whether or not the US federal government can even CONSIDER a person's religion when crafting its laws.
After all,
IF "I am exempt from the laws requiring vaccination because I am a devout believer in the _[fill in the blank]_ religion which mandates differently.",THEN ""I am exempt from the laws prohibiting infant sacrifice because I am a devout believer in the _[fill in the blank]_ religion which mandates differently."
is equally valid.
I would join that church!Not to mention my favorite: I am exempt from paying taxes because my religion teaches me that paying taxes is an abomination in the eyes of Almighty God, worthy of condemning all those who do to eternal damnation.
Will the USSC save me from eternal damnation? I don't think so.
The problem is the USSC has already set precedence in the Hobby Lobby decision. If you have a deeply held religious belief, you do not have to obey laws that run contrary to that belief. you get an exemption.If they can't consider it, then there are no exemptions for religious beliefs.
A "guarantee" doesn't really have anything to do with the principle. If I build bombs in my house, I'm not "guaranteed" to blow up my house and threaten my neighbors if my house explodes, but does that mean if my religion calls for me to make bombs that I should be allowed to do so because blowing up my neighbors' houses is only a possibility?Yet it's not guaranteed to, unlike the immediate effect a sacrifice would. Getting vaccinated improves your odds of significantly surviving covid. Being sacrificed guarantees no such thing.
Really? Prayer in school ring a bell?while i support religious rights and in this country my rights as a Christian are 100% protected
"exemptions" are tricky because the majority of times i have seen people try for them its based on bigotry and or hypocrisy and not their religion.
Sothis is why its hard to get them and defend them and it should be
Sorry I have no idea what you are asking in relation to my postReally? Prayer in school ring a bell?
You said "...in this country my rights as a Christian are 100% protected". You can pray in school, but you can't be led in prayer. Seems like your rights are not 100% protected.Sorry I have no idea what you are asking in relation to my post
Most if not all major religious leaders have touted the vaccine. If the leaders don't shun the vaccines, then the religious followers have no excuse IMO. Even the dang Pope got the vaccine and encouraged all Catholics to get them yet there are Catholics who are attempting to use the "fetal cell" excuse where there are nonewhile i support religious rights and in this country my rights as a Christian are 100% protected
"exemptions" are tricky because the majority of times i have seen people try for them its based on bigotry and or hypocrisy and not their religion.
Sothis is why its hard to get them and defend them and it should be
correctYou said "...in this country my rights as a Christian are 100% protected".
correct as long as im not disrupting othersYou can pray in school
explain what you are talking about here and why you think its a right that we have and is not protected?, but you can't be led in prayer.
Yes they are, there is no right that i have that is not 100% protectedSeems like your rights are not 100% protected.
agreed 100%Most if not all major religious leaders have touted the vaccine. If the leaders don't shun the vaccines, then the religious followers have no excuse IMO. Even the dang Pope got the vaccine and encouraged all Catholics to get them yet there are Catholics who are attempting to use the "fetal cell" excuse where there are none
My observations have always been that they find something they don't want to do, and then work back from there to justify why they don't have to because of their religion, so far as some of the vaccine reticence. To me it shouldn't be a matter of it conflicting with religion or not. It's a matter of even a secular person being allowed to reject having forced medical treatments on them, misguided or not.while i support religious rights and in this country my rights as a Christian are 100% protected
"exemptions" are tricky because the majority of times i have seen people try for them its based on bigotry and or hypocrisy and not their religion.
Sothis is why its hard to get them and defend them and it should be
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