The only reason that some Europeans countries still have power in Africa, is because they prop up various regimes with military assistance. *Cough* France *Cough*
The reason you cooperate with the UN is because your governments are simply too weak to actually pull off any large scale human rights violations. You leave that to the myriad of multinational European corporations which operate within Africa. In West Africa, you won't see the French or British governments getting their hands dirty. However, Europeans are still very much in power of Africa. The difference between today and the 1930s you now leave the colonizing process to Monsanto, Elf and Shell.
This isn't about improving anything. It's the usual, "beat up on the United States, because we hate their freedom", fest.
I think I should be able to sue over the damage this caused my brain. This is vapid, uneducated, blatant deflection/dismissal.
There are places worse than America out there. Many many places. Doesn't mean we don't have room to improve. We don't have to change to suit the international flavor of the month. But we can take a subjective look at our own behaviors and decide if we wish to address anything, try to make policies better, try to ensure that our government is working to protect and proliferate our rights.
And how does this report, or this council at the UN do this?
j-mac
It definitely gives a standard by which we can make comparison.
Yeah, and we couldn't do this without airing our dirty laundry to the world? I guess the question I am asking is that if you believe that it is an opportunity for the US to be introspective about our own practices, then do we need the UN, and especially this particular body within that corrupt org. to judge us on this?
j-mac
No we don't need the UN. However, currently it is the UN which offers the standard. We can see how things stack up, we can look at their criticism and see if it's fair. And if we should look for alterations in our policy, it would give a decent starting point to the debate. There's nothing wrong in what we are doing here, and there is nothing that could force us to change. But it is a good chance to examine our own practices as they relate to the international standard.
Yeah, and we couldn't do this without airing our dirty laundry to the world? I guess the question I am asking is that if you believe that it is an opportunity for the US to be introspective about our own practices, then do we need the UN, and especially this particular body within that corrupt org. to judge us on this?
j-mac
Land of the Sea Treaty
Agenda 21
j-mac
I don't think we could ever be that lucky, unfortunately.Maybe we'll get lucky and the UN will kick us out.
It's pretty hard to be objective about your own actions.
Ahh yes. Surrendering our sovereign power over international waters...
Oh I don't know about that, we seem to have plenty in here willing to say that America sucks....
Oh I don't know about that, we seem to have plenty in here willing to say that America sucks....
And that is all you think those two pieces of crap out of the UN are about?
j-mac
Don't mistaken my critisisms of areas where I feel our country can improve as meaning that I think America sucks. There is nothing wrong in wishing America to be even better tomorrow than it is today.
In other words, you have "American rights" or "Soviet rights" or "rights that certain people can agree on and enforce in their geographic territory."If a concert of nations of some sorts agrees to a set of standard rights and enforces them within their respective territories then human rights become real.
it is the prioritization that offends decent, intelligent educated people.
Speak for yourself. I'm more than decent, way intelligent and almost a PhD. I tend to think that I most often engage either the topic or another intelligent poster. I write about it in forums because very few rural Kenyans would have any idea what I was talking about (or have any inclination to discuss it instead of farming).The decent intelligent educated people tend to understand what goes on in the UN and not talk about it in forums either. So who knows what they think.
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