Two law enforcement sources told CBS News that the suspect had a handgun, an AR-15 assault weapon and high capacity magazines.

[VySky]

You don’t care about your own country either. You care about no1

America first

 

[rahl]

It's become very clear that the same ole responses are starting to emerge from the right. Including stupid sarcastic ones. The bottom line is, it's time Americans realize that it's the right wing and the right wing only who refuse to act. Democrats have passed any number of gun control measures only to have them killed by the republican side of the senate.

And they were rightfully killed, as they would have been unconstitutional should they have passed.

This needs to be the number one issue come November.

If you make this the #1 issue in November, democrats will lose even more seats than they are already going to lose.

All republican lawmakers who refuse to act have lots of blood on their hands.

No, the person who pulled the trigger has blood on their hands.

It has become perfectly clear that to republicans, guns are more important than children's lives.

This is hyperbolic nonsense.

Shame on all of you. America is sick because of you.

Then you better get busy finding enough states for an Article 5 convention, to amend the constitution. It's the only way possible to implement the types of restrictions you want.

 

[j brown's body]

And they were rightfully killed, as they would have been unconstitutional should they have passed.

If you make this the #1 issue in November, democrats will lose even more seats than they are already going to lose.

No, the person who pulled the trigger has blood on their hands.

This is hyperbolic nonsense.

Then you better get busy finding enough states for an Article 5 convention, to amend the constitution. It's the only way possible to implement the types of restrictions you want.

This is a reflection is a sickness infecting the body politic. We don't have to live with this madness, but thinking like this forces us to.

 

[The AntiDonald]

And they were rightfully killed, as they would have been unconstitutional should they have passed.

If you make this the #1 issue in November, democrats will lose even more seats than they are already going to lose.

No, the person who pulled the trigger has blood on their hands.

This is hyperbolic nonsense.

Then you better get busy finding enough states for an Article 5 convention, to amend the constitution. It's the only way possible to implement the types of restrictions you want.

What I see here is you just throwing up your hands and saying, oh well, there's nothing we can do, so just get used to it. On this issue, in this time of guns, the constitution is dead wrong.

Please explain in laymen's terms why Americans need 400,000,000 guns not including ghost guns? Please make logic of this. And using the 2nd A is not a reason.

 

[rahl]

This is a reflection is a sickness infecting the body politic. We don't have to live with this madness, but thinking like this forces us to.

Again, it's reality. You can throw around all the arguments from emotion that you want to. At the end of the day, you are restricted by the constitution from infringing on peoples rights. You will need to pass an amendment in order to do what you want. You have no chance of doing that though.

 

[The flaming lib]

Don’t worry peeps. China Joe the pedo will be passing gun control any minute now to save us all

 

[dcsports]

At least 19 children, 2 adults killed after shooter opens fire at Texas elementary school

The shooter is also dead, and is believed to have been killed by responding law enforcement officers.

www.cbsnews.com

An assault rifle and high capacity magazines. Weapon and ammo meant for one primary purpose—to kill lots of human beings in a very quick and efficient manner. Gee, where have we heard this story before.

Per the article you just posted, it was an AR-15, not an assault rifle.

 

[rahl]

What I see here is you just throwing up your hands and saying, oh well, there's nothing we can do, so just get used to it.

No, what I'm doing is pointing out the only thing you CAN do. Bitching and whining on an internet forum, or trying to have your congressman pass laws that have zero chance of 1) being enforceable or constitutional, and 2) in any way effective, is entirely pointless.

On this issue, in this time of guns, the constitution is dead wrong.

Then change it.

Please explain in laymen's terms why Americans need 400,000,000 guns not including ghost guns?

Ok. Because they want them. Rights are not dependent upon what YOU think someone NEEDS.

Please make logic of this. And using the 2nd A is not a reason.

Of course it's a reason. One of many, and probably the most important. But you are operating from a false premise. And that is that anyone has to justify their NEED for something, in order for it to be a right.

 

[Eatomus]

At least 19 children, 2 adults killed after shooter opens fire at Texas elementary school

The shooter is also dead, and is believed to have been killed by responding law enforcement officers.

www.cbsnews.com

An assault rifle and high capacity magazines. Weapon and ammo meant for one primary purpose—to kill lots of human beings in a very quick and efficient manner. Gee, where have we heard this story before.

Why did his grandmother allow such behavior from the grandchild in her household?

Uvalde School Shooter Shot His Grandmother Before Driving to Robb Elementary School: Officials​

 

[The flaming lib]

Per the article you just posted, it was an AR-15, not an assault rifle.

But but but it’s black and scary looking

 

[The AntiDonald]

Again, it's reality. You can throw around all the arguments from emotion that you want to. At the end of the day, you are restricted by the constitution from infringing on peoples rights. You will need to pass an amendment in order to do what you want. You have no chance of doing that though.

We may not be able to change or eliminate the 2nd A, but we can vote enough democrats into office and start reversing the conservative hold on our courts.

A great analogy was made by some one last night. It took a while, but the fight against tobacco use eventually worked. It didn't stop all tobacco, but it severely limited where and to who tobacco was sold.

Baby steps is all we can hope for. Doing nothing guarantees more innocent people including children will be murdered by guns. Guns that were made for the sole purpose of killing.

 

[rahl]

We may not be able to change or eliminate the 2nd A, but we can vote enough democrats into office and start reversing the conservative hold on our courts.

How do you imagine that would in any way make the plain english words in the 2nd A somehow disappear?

A great analogy was made by some one last night. It took a while, but the fight against tobacco use eventually worked. It didn't stop all tobacco, but it severely limited where and to who tobacco was sold.

This might be interesting, if tobacco was specifically enumerated in the constitution as a right. But it isn't, and is entirely irrelevant to anything being discussed.

Baby steps is all we can hope for. Doing nothing guarantees more innocent people including children will be murdered by guns.

You are trying to do the wrong things, which have no effect and are completely unenforceable. You need to try something else.

Guns that were made for the sole purpose of killing.

This is a demonstrably false lie.

 

[The AntiDonald]

No, what I'm doing is pointing out the only thing you CAN do. Bitching and whining on an internet forum, or trying to have your congressman pass laws that have zero chance of 1) being enforceable or constitutional, and 2) in any way effective, is entirely pointless.

Then change it.

Ok. Because they want them. Rights are not dependent upon what YOU think someone NEEDS.

Of course it's a reason. One of many, and probably the most important. But you are operating from a false premise. And that is that anyone has to justify their NEED for something, in order for it to be a right.

I've always said, I have a right to walk into a grocery store without having to duck and run from an idiot with a killing machine. No one is doing anything to protect my right to safety. No one is protecting innocent children when they go to their schools.

Did you notice the police presence at the school yesterday? I'll bet there were over 500 cops all armed to the hilt, and yet the shooter still killed 21 people.

What do we need the cops for if they never show up until after the crime? There is one common denominator in all these crazy shootings. It's the guns.

 

[Rucker61]

Yes, ban possession of them. Obviously sale of them, but less obviously supply of them as "gifts" from people who have 3D printers.

It would have a positive effect because malicious people who are contemplating a mass shooting will likely not take the risk of trying to buy illegal magazines: they could be buying from a cop. As to 3D printers, they're expensive and we can count on at least some owners to raise a red flag if their friend asks them to print an illegal magazine.

Imagine you're an armed teacher (Texas has them, though not in this little school.) You're in the hallway outside a room where shots are being fired. After ten shots there's a pause, this is the best moment for you to enter, because (3D printers or not) the perpetrator is probably using a standard magazine.

It would help if the states which have banned high capacity magazines had all fixed on the same number of cartridges. Whether that's ten or 12 matters less than it being standardized.

There are billions of them out there.

 

[HenryChinaski]

I would wager the police ended the carnage with a weapon like in the pic.

And the dead children thank them for that. Hell they’re honored to be murdered in the greatest country in the world with the most sacred document the 2A.

 

[rahl]

I've always said, I have a right to walk into a grocery store without having to duck and run from an idiot with a killing machine.

Yes, you absolutely do.

No one is doing anything to protect my right to safety.

Of course they are.

No one is protecting innocent children when they go to their schools.

Of course they are.

Did you notice the police presence at the school yesterday? I'll bet there were over 500 cops all armed to the hilt, and yet the shooter still killed 21 people.

ok?

What do we need the cops for if they never show up until after the crime?

Now you are understanding why expecting someone else to "protect" you is folly.

There is one common denominator in all these crazy shootings. It's the guns.

lol, no. It's crazy, mentally unstable people. From 1986 to present day, the amount of firearms increased by over 270 million, while at the same time the homicide and violent crime rates declined. Firearms have nothing to do with it.

 

[Eatomus]

Why did his grandmother not take better care of him ?

Shooter shot grandmother before targeting Texas primary school | ABC News​

 

[rickc]

Once again the signs were all there. A troubled young man changing his behavior, wearing tactile gear and buying weapons. I am sure those close to him knew he needed help.

You are never going to be able to stop crazy people or criminals from getting a gun in a country with over 400 million guns. Even if the impossible happens and America decides to confiscate all guns many will not comply including myself.

In these mass shooting changes in the way we deal with the mentally ill will be more effective than any gun laws.

Locking up criminal drug/gang members will greatly reduce the homicide rate. Crime with a gun should come with very long incarnation sentences.

I have no problem with background checks. I have had a bunch of them. Why not have a background check much like buying a class III weapon and then get a card like my concealed weapons permit that allows you to buy whatever you want anywhere in America?

 

[CaughtInThe]

I would wager the police ended the carnage with a weapon like in the pic.

Maybe so but not until after little kids were slaughtered so badly that they couldn't identify them.

 

[Eatomus]

why did his grandmother not take better care of him ?
Why did his grandmother not run a better household ?

Shooter shot grandmother before targeting Texas primary school | ABC News​

 

[CaughtInThe]

I don't know about everyone else but if I'm going on a murderous rampage (which I never will) to gun down many people I'm taking the weapons that I can slaughter the most humans with. I'm not taking butter knifes.

And again, I'm not going to be going on a murderous rampage.

 

[Cope]

Are you saying that we should not try and do anything? That's what it sounds like. Republicans have been one issue voting for years trying to get Roe overturned. It seems to have worked. Why not we one issue vote on guns. Something has to change and doing nothing is only making it worse.

Because you will lose, and the loss would be devastating.
There ARE gun control measures that have lots of support. Banning guns, magazines and 'scary looking' guns aren't the answer.
Want to pass a background check that catches medical/mental health issues , deal with the privacy issues. Because that is a gun control measure that lots of people can get behind.

The bottom line is this; Guns didn't kill these children, the shooter did.

Let's pass some laws that can stop the shooter, not ineffectual feel good laws about guns.

 

[watsup]

"High capacity magazines" are plastic boxes with a spring inside. Are you going to just ban them, or also ban 3D printers?

How many kids can a person kill very quickly with a 3D printer?
And why do you always make a series of totally ridiculous comments after every mass shooting?

 

[VySky]

No surprise. High-capacity magazines directly undermine the "good guy with a gun" response to mass shootings. At best more innocents will get shot before there's an opportunity to break cover and shoot the bad guy down. At worst, the good guy gets shot too.

Yes some states do ban high-capacity magazines. But only 10 of them, obviously not including Texas.

Define high capacity magazine used?

 

[element94]

This is being safe.

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This is your message to the families of dead children? Obviously your "this" is what ended their lives. To say "This is being safe" after 19 children were murdered with this type of weapon is profoundly ignorant, and it's not the first time for you.