Being a liberal I read post on this forum from trump supporters that just leave me.shaking my head. What?
I am sure the same is true.when trumpers read post.from liberals.
It is like two completely different worlds. Everyone is looking at the same picture and seeing a completely different picture.
I wonder is there any common ground left or have we gone so far that one side.or the other must win and take America in that direction without any compromise?
Being a liberal I read post on this forum from trump supporters that just leave me.shaking my head. What?
I am sure the same is true.when trumpers read post.from liberals.
It is like two completely different worlds. Everyone is looking at the same picture and seeing a completely different picture.
I wonder is there any common ground left or have we gone so far that one side.or the other must win and take America in that direction without any compromise?
Being a liberal I read post on this forum from trump supporters that just leave me.shaking my head. What?
I am sure the same is true.when trumpers read post.from liberals.
It is like two completely different worlds. Everyone is looking at the same picture and seeing a completely different picture.
I wonder is there any common ground left or have we gone so far that one side.or the other must win and take America in that direction without any compromise?
Being a liberal I read post on this forum from trump supporters that just leave me.shaking my head. What?
I am sure the same is true.when trumpers read post.from liberals.
It is like two completely different worlds. Everyone is looking at the same picture and seeing a completely different picture.
I wonder is there any common ground left or have we gone so far that one side.or the other must win and take America in that direction without any compromise?
If you were to read this board. No there is no common ground. If you were to talk to most people you would find most are in the same ballpark and its a matter of details. Where the rails come off is the socialists. Specifically the ones that see this country as irredeemable. As basically a constitutionalist and advocate for minimal government the genuine socialists and I have very little common ground especially on the notion of individual liberty and rights. We have to be very careful and precise as to what we call ourselves as language has been weaponized to such degree that without that precision, people are really talking past each other and dont know really what is being said. For instance right wing, left wing, liberal, conservative. These are all very poorly defined terms that have varied and muddled definitions especially now as the meanings and nuances of the meanings are changing constantly. The Overton window concept is very much in play. What is considered conservative now and liberal now are used to be considered more moderate and socialist not but a decade ago. Then you have the stakes of the game are so high that loss can be or is catastrophic to ones way of life that control of the government is turning out to be an absolute necessity, which it never used to be because government tended to not be that directly involved in ones life except very tangentially. Now its a direct and ever present threat and who is in charge becomes very important.
No, everyone is NOT looking at the same picture. From what I have seen of libs they are not quoting any news source, not even a bad one. They are commenting on some lie a politician or somebody on this forum said. Joe Biden is still lying about what Trump said about Charlottesville, and some of the libs here are repeating it.
Until the left stops lying nothing is going to change.
The current potus, and GOP standard bearer, has endorsed QAnon, praised Nazis as fine people, and declared American Jews as disloyal for not supporting him and Israel (Putting aside the anti-semitism, how dumb is it to argue that the only way you can prove you’re loyal to your country is by supporting a foreign country?).
But the problem is that there are people who want universal healthcare for all Americans.
This is the reality gap.
PS: Same group that keeps saying “racist” has lost it’s power due to overuse throw “socialist” at any program that buys food instead of a bullet.
The first problem of your argument are your assumptions. It is not a binary choice. Its not red vs. blue. Second you are assuming I am GOP. Voters typically are not exclusive from one to the other.
Look, we all heard what Trump said about Charlottesville with our own ears. There is no debate over that. Joe Biden is not lying. The right want's us to believe something other than what Trump said.
He's proven himself to be a supporter of White Supremacy and no one can change that. Considering that now he wont dismiss Q, but instead accepts their support for him.
Look, we all heard what Trump said about Charlottesville with our own ears. There is no debate over that. Joe Biden is not lying. The right want's us to believe something other than what Trump said.
He's proven himself to be a supporter of White Supremacy and no one can change that. Considering that now he wont dismiss Q, but instead accepts their support for him.
I didn’t ascribe affiliation to any political party to you, I responded directly to the content of your post.
Yes, voters party affiliation doesn’t necessarily represent who they vote for, however studies have demonstrated that most people tend to bend one way or the other ideologically most of their lives.
It’s like when conservative libertarian males who register as independent exclaim I’M NOT A REPUBLICAN despite holding views and voting patterns identical to that of a Republican.
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Therein lies your problem. You want to put people in a box. Its not so simple. Perhaps the voting patterns of people reflects a lack of candidates that accurately reflect the views of the voter at hand and a simple vote of necessity either from fear of harm or because the party in question is closest to their views. I know plenty of democrats that are voting Republican this year, and not because they like the Republican party. Its certainly not anything the Republicans did to woo them. Are these Democrats now Republicans? I wouldn't tell them that to their face that's for certain.
No, everyone is NOT looking at the same picture. From what I have seen of libs they are not quoting any news source, not even a bad one. They are commenting on some lie a politician or somebody on this forum said. Joe Biden is still lying about what Trump said about Charlottesville, and some of the libs here are repeating it.
Until the left stops lying nothing is going to change.
If they’re voting for a racist who thinks 180k dead Americans “is what it is,” then yes, I would argue they’re not Dems or DINOs.
But luckily for both of us none of these folks exist and you’re just making **** up.
Instead of whining about being misconstrued, you could actually speak to arguments and do a little more showin’ than tellin’. My take on you is this (and this is just from a few posts):
You’re a right wing conservative Trump guy who’s whole online schtick is pretending “both sides” but you only ever really wind up criticizing Dems. You probably say things like “I know lots of Dems, they’re gonna #walkaway!” But but but if you just declare that you’re not a registered Republican, then of course none of this can be true cause that’s how life works.
Prove me wrong.
:lol: Prove you wrong? :lol: I dont have to do jack. But I will play your game. I will give you three and kick your your ass, as they can point you to more.
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Being a liberal I read post on this forum from trump supporters that just leave me.shaking my head. What?
I am sure the same is true.when trumpers read post.from liberals.
It is like two completely different worlds. Everyone is looking at the same picture and seeing a completely different picture.
I wonder is there any common ground left or have we gone so far that one side.or the other must win and take America in that direction without any compromise?
Look, we all heard what Trump said about Charlottesville with our own ears. There is no debate over that. Joe Biden is not lying. The right want's us to believe something other than what Trump said.
He's proven himself to be a supporter of White Supremacy and no one can change that. Considering that now he wont dismiss Q, but instead accepts their support for him.
How many fact-checked lies has Trump been busted for since taking office? Is Trump a leftist? Why does Trump lie so much? Just provide a straight answer, please, and feel free to choose the 'credible' fact-checking source of your own choice.
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