Trust God and call it a day? I saw that bumper sticker this morning. I think it's stupid. How about trust yourself instead?

[stealthycat]

The same as what science considers evidence. What is not scientific evidence is testimony, experience, of belief/feelings.

but science is wrong - almost all the time .... science is built on theories and hypothesis with very very few "facts" - you know this

Argumentum ad populum. Belief does not equal fact. It doesn't matter if it's 1 person or a billion, it's still just a belief.

you're right - thus you cannot use science as a trustable source to base your beliefs on because its wrong so often

 

[stealthycat]

hey Stealth, this isn't a 5 hour show here or a Bible school

we give a few comments for short attention spans and move on.

sometimes i recommend a good seminary level book that they wont read or understand.

proof? it is everywhere, unless you don't wanna know. our Fake Atheists have zero desire for proof cept to be their own god.

ask them, they know or some kind of philosophical gibberish.

for more proof they could search out Biblical apologetics on the web...

here let me help you and the atheists: https://duckduckgo.com/?t=ffab&q=Biblical+apologetics&ia=web

i don't hold my breath, but it could happen like winning the lotto happens. they don't think their souls are worth a dollar; atheists don't think they have a soul, so the chance of them searching for truth is close to Zero.

I see

you are one of the "hit him hard over the head over and over over " people when it comes to this subject - that's fine, you be you

 

[Gordy327]

but science is wrong - almost all the time .... science is built on theories and hypothesis with very very few "facts" - you know this

That's the beauty of science. It self corrects and continues searching for discoveries to lead it closer to truth. Theories are based on scientific evidence. Scientific theories are the strongest forms of explanation. But claims based on nothing but belief or hearsay lack any merit or validity.

you're right - thus you cannot use science as a trustable source to base your beliefs on because its wrong so often

I made no mention of my beliefs and science is not based on belief. It goes by what the evidence shows. What theories do you consider wrong? If a theory or even hypothesis is demonstrated to be wrong, it's either revised or discarded.

 

[Revelation]

I see

you are one of the "hit him hard over the head over and over over " people when it comes to this subject - that's fine, you be you

meh, i try different things.

if someone is serious and repentant then pour Gallons of God's love on them.

if they are shaking their fist at God, then bring out the fiery Toaster Club and sword. fake atheists don't want some Vanilla sweet words like some poetry, they want full bore, in your face answers.

fire and brimstone some days.

Stealth in the end, i can't save anyone..........i just plead for them to consider their souls and Eternal Life.

most could care less, i care more about them than they do ............so you tell me.

what should i do? thanks.


...this brimstone stuff helps some, it did for me.

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[Revelation]

That's the beauty of science. It self corrects and continues searching for discoveries to lead it closer to truth.

however the issue with Science is that it never finds the Truth that matters.

even my Cartoons do a better job than all the science and PhD can muster

Theories are based on scientific evidence. Scientific theories are the strongest forms of explanation. But claims based on nothing but belief or hearsay lack any merit or validity.

my Faith is good forever. my science books will rot and are antiquated with time.

I made no mention of my beliefs and science is not based on belief.

you believe in evolution, a very fake belief in something that never happened. so yeah you have evolution gods and guitar music gods.

It goes by what the evidence shows. What theories do you consider wrong? If a theory or even hypothesis is demonstrated to be wrong, it's either revised or discarded.

except the biggest scientific kind of lies like big bang and evolving. no those are sacred cows.

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[Gordy327]

however the issue with Science is that it never finds the Truth that matters.

even my Cartoons do a better job than all the science and PhD can muster



my Faith is good forever. my science books will rot and are antiquated with time.



you believe in evolution, a very fake belief in something that never happened. so yeah you have evolution gods and guitar music gods.



except the biggest scientific kind of lies like big bang and evolving. no those are sacred cows.

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So much ignorant delusion in 1 post.

 

[stealthycat]

That's the beauty of science. It self corrects and continues searching for discoveries to lead it closer to truth. Theories are based on scientific evidence. Scientific theories are the strongest forms of explanation. But claims based on nothing but belief or hearsay lack any merit or validity.

in other words - its wrong all the time

believing in something that's continually wrong .... aint that special ?

I made no mention of my beliefs and science is not based on belief. It goes by what the evidence shows. What theories do you consider wrong? If a theory or even hypothesis is demonstrated to be wrong, it's either revised or discarded.

every theory is really guesstimates .... do you really think what science believes in 1450 was spot on and correct ? be honest - they were wrong in almost everything they believed, were they not? But the people in 1450? they 100% believed they were the pinnacle of science, they had it all figured out. In 1450, scientific thought was largely rooted in Aristotelian cosmology, which placed the Earth at the center of the universe, and the Ptolemaic model of planetary motion, with the sun, moon, and planets revolving around the Earth

doesn't that seem stupid now ?

 

[stealthycat]

meh, i try different things.

if someone is serious and repentant then pour Gallons of God's love on them.

if they are shaking their fist at God, then bring out the fiery Toaster Club and sword. fake atheists don't want some Vanilla sweet words like some poetry, they want full bore, in your face answers.

fire and brimstone some days.

Stealth in the end, i can't save anyone..........i just plead for them to consider their souls and Eternal Life.

most could care less, i care more about them than they do ............so you tell me.

what should i do? thanks.

you do you, aint for me to decide .... but for giggles .... how's it working ??? your method ....

 

[Gordy327]

in other words - its wrong all the time

Says who? Specify what it's wrong about.

believing in something that's continually wrong .... aint that special ?

What belief are you referring to?

every theory is really guesstimates .... do you really think what science believes in 1450 was spot on and correct ? be honest - they were wrong in almost everything they believed, were they not? But the people in 1450? they 100% believed they were the pinnacle of science, they had it all figured out. In 1450, scientific thought was largely rooted in Aristotelian cosmology, which placed the Earth at the center of the universe, and the Ptolemaic model of planetary motion, with the sun, moon, and planets revolving around the Earth

doesn't that seem stupid now ?

Fortunately, science has advanced and corrected errors, as it does. That's why we no longer think Earth is the center of the universe. Thinking science shouldn't be accepted or trusted because it's "wrong" about something, but accepting a belief as true without evidence or because of feelings is what's really stupid.

 

[stealthycat]

Says who? Specify what it's wrong about.

What belief are you referring to?

Fortunately, science has advanced and corrected errors, as it does.

science is wrong, all the time in almost everything and every way

That's why we no longer think Earth is the center of the universe.

science was wrong, wasn't it ?

Thinking science shouldn't be accepted or trusted because it's "wrong" about something, but accepting a belief as true without evidence or because of feelings is what's really stupid.

you trust something that's wrong all the time

everything in the Bible today is exactly what it was 1000 years ago - its not changed

 

[Gordy327]

science is wrong, all the time in almost everything and every way


science was wrong, wasn't it ?

In what way? You haven't specified what is wrong.

you trust something that's wrong all the time

No, I accept what's explained based on the evidence

everything in the Bible today is exactly what it was 1000 years ago - its not changed

That's why it fails. It's stagnant. As Science explains and understands more, the bible/God becomes an ever shrinking pocket.

 

[stealthycat]

In what way? You haven't specified what is wrong.

I literally gave an example

No, I accept what's explained based on the evidence

but you fully know that science is a theory/hypothesis and its always being re-written to right the wrongs

That's why it fails. It's stagnant. As Science explains and understands more, the bible/God becomes an ever shrinking pocket.

its the same, its consistent .... like a fact would be

 

[Gordy327]

I literally gave an example

A 500+ year old example which religion actually believed and what science already corrected, explained, and established as fact now? Yeah, great example. Got anything current?

but you fully know that science is a theory/hypothesis and its always being re-written to right the wrongs

It's based on what evidence shows. Not on what one says or believes. I already said science self corrects. You want to ignore that and pretend science is wrong regardless. But that's your own bias and/or scientific illiteracy on display.

its the same, its consistent .... like a fact would be

Except the bible isn't fact. Much of what the bible claims has been discredited by science. It's no more consistent than any other work of literary fiction. Theists can't even agree on what the Bible says or means at times.

 

[Logician Man]

well amen, we have faith every day for all kinds of things.

we used to have faith in dee cee, although not much anymore; faith that there was money in the bank and electricity was on to turn on the lights and appliances.

yep, faith is kinda common.



the atheists have a lot less proof of anything; after all the Hot Air they produce here, there is not even one shred/atom of proof that there is no God.

so i don't ask that much from them, they just wear me out with idiotic comments.

Evidence for God is much better, it is EVERY where. you wake up and God gives you the sun to see; open the fridge and there is food from God.

turn on the radio and now you here from the gubment or whatever

of course, we can say this is no proof; which kinda sounds make believe to me. almost child like in reasoning.

Revelation said:
I will always contend that there are no atheists.

CONTRADICT ONESELF Definition & Meaning - Merriam-Webster​

The meaning of
CONTRADICT ONESELF is to say or do something
that is opposite or very different in meaning to something else that one said or did earlier

 

[Revelation]

A 500+ year old example which religion actually believed and what science already corrected, explained, and established as fact now? Yeah, great example. Got anything current?

It's based on what evidence shows. Not on what one says or believes. I already said science self corrects.

so take science with a grain of Salt.

the bible never has to 'self correct'.............i think i know which one to go with.

get off your foundation of shaky sand people; that is why God gave us the King James bible............now and forever, amen

You want to ignore that and pretend science is wrong regardless. But that's your own bias and/or scientific illiteracy on display.

Except the bible isn't fact.

it is for me.

Much of what the bible claims has been discredited by science.

not so far. if science does that then science is wrong.

It's no more consistent than any other work of literary fiction. Theists can't even agree on what the Bible says or means at times.

study and you will know the bible.

study science and you may know science until it changes again and again and........................

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[Revelation]

Revelation said:
I will always contend that there are no atheists.

meh, guess who just woke up this morning..........blessings Logec.

CONTRADICT ONESELF Definition & Meaning - Merriam-Webster​

The meaning of
CONTRADICT ONESELF is to say or do something
that is opposite or very different in meaning to something else that one said or did earlier

the atheists have a lot less proof of anything; after all the Hot Air they produce here, there is not even one shred/atom of proof that there is no God.

so i don't ask that much from them, they just wear me out with idiotic comments.

I will always contend that there are no atheists.

ok,

i just disproved science. are the atheists next?.............there are none. some day tell me what you really believe.

are Guitar players and musicians still gods? or is it sports cars today?

inquiring minds wanna know. thanks.


angels wanna know too, hope yur name is in there some where so we can continue the Convo on the other side.

see you in real bible church


bye.

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[stealthycat]

A 500+ year old example which religion actually believed and what science already corrected, explained, and established as fact now? Yeah, great example. Got anything current?

quick google

100-year-old chemistry rule proven false, updating textbooks comes next

Neil Garg is leading the charge to rewrite a fundamental principle that's been part of organic chemistry since 1924 -- Bredt's rule.

www.earth.com

Pluto isn't a planet anymore - I was taught it was

Al Gore - “Within the decade there will be no more snows of Kilimanjaro,”

google is your friend - everyday there is more " well, we got that wrong" ..... articles

It's based on what evidence shows. Not on what one says or believes. I already said science self corrects. You want to ignore that and pretend science is wrong regardless. But that's your own bias and/or scientific illiteracy on display.

except its wrong, all the time

Except the bible isn't fact. Much of what the bible claims has been discredited by science. It's no more consistent than any other work of literary fiction. Theists can't even agree on what the Bible says or means at times.

the Bible is very much factual - do you not know that ?

 

[Gordy327]

quick google

100-year-old chemistry rule proven false, updating textbooks comes next

Neil Garg is leading the charge to rewrite a fundamental principle that's been part of organic chemistry since 1924 -- Bredt's rule.

www.earth.com

Pluto isn't a planet anymore - I was taught it was

Pluto is a dwarf planet.

Al Gore - “Within the decade there will be no more snows of Kilimanjaro,”

His own opinion. He's not a scientist.

google is your friend - everyday there is more " well, we got that wrong" ..... articles


except its wrong, all the time

Except it's self correcting of errors too. You conveniently and disingenuously ignore that aspect.

the Bible is very much factual - do you not know that ?

Factual in what regard? Many of it's stories are clearly not factual or even plausible. I demonstrated as much in my Fallacy of Biblical Stories series.

 

[stealthycat]

Pluto is a dwarf planet.

Pluto was initially classified as the ninth planet of our solar system upon its discovery in 1930

was Science right or wrong?

Except it's self correcting of errors too. You conveniently and disingenuously ignore that aspect.
Factual in what regard? Many of it's stories are clearly not factual or even plausible. I demonstrated as much in my Fallacy of Biblical Stories series.

so wrong ... until they think they're right, and then 100-200 years from now that's proven wrong too .... wrong over and over and over

you believe all that ?

 

[Gordy327]

Pluto was initially classified as the ninth planet of our solar system upon its discovery in 1930

was Science right or wrong?

It was right. It's the parameters of planetary classification that changed.

so wrong ... until they think they're right, and then 100-200 years from now that's proven wrong too .... wrong over and over and over

you believe all that ?

The Earth and other orbits the sun. Is that right or wrong? The sun "rises" easterly and sets westerly because of Earth's rotation. Is that right or wrong? The moon affects ocean tides. Is that right or wrong? The moon reflects sunlight rather than having it's own illumination. Is that right or wrong?

 

[stealthycat]

It was right. It's the parameters of planetary classification that changed.

still, its science changing, it was never fact at all

The Earth and other orbits the sun. Is that right or wrong? The sun "rises" easterly and sets westerly because of Earth's rotation. Is that right or wrong? The moon affects ocean tides. Is that right or wrong? The moon reflects sunlight rather than having it's own illumination. Is that right or wrong?

all true as far as I know

 

[Gordy327]

still, its science changing, it was never fact at all

The planets orbit the sun. Fact, right!

all true as far as I know

You have doubts? Funny how you disingenuously complain about science being wrong but ignore everything is has right. Meanwhile, the bible has been demonstrated to be wrong by science but many think the bible is right. There's a cognitive disconnect there and/or personal bias.

 

[stealthycat]

The planets orbit the sun. Fact, right!

its what we've been told

You have doubts? Funny how you disingenuously complain about science being wrong but ignore everything is has right. Meanwhile, the bible has been demonstrated to be wrong by science but many think the bible is right. There's a cognitive disconnect there and/or personal bias.

I don't trust any of it

kid - we didn't go to the moon , asbestos isn't safe, neither is fenfen ....... Pluto isn't a planet, oil didn't come from dead dinosaurs ..... and Alec Baldwin pulled the trigger, OJ did do it .....

we could go on and on

 

[Gordy327]

its what we've been told

It's what is observed and mathematically demonstrable.

I don't trust any of it

But you trust the bible, even though it's proven yo be erroneous or inaccurate?

kid - we didn't go to the moon , asbestos isn't safe, neither is fenfen ....... Pluto isn't a planet, oil didn't come from dead dinosaurs ..... and Alec Baldwin pulled the trigger, OJ did do it .....

we could go on and on

Go ahead. Meanwhile actual evidence and facts tell a different story.

 

[stealthycat]

It's what is observed and mathematically demonstrable.

and proven wrong, over and over (sun goes around the earth)

But you trust the bible, even though it's proven yo be erroneous or inaccurate?

it has ?

Go ahead. Meanwhile actual evidence and facts tell a different story.

your science that changes and is wrong all the time is your faith - I get it