Trust God and call it a day? I saw that bumper sticker this morning. I think it's stupid. How about trust yourself instead?

[tosca1]

christianity goes beyond handling the hassles of modern life, much more.

this Life is Boot Camp basically, we have a whole new life waiting in Eternity..........that IS the point. and a good place to start your life is what your End will look like.



amen. so actually he did; give God the credit for that please. thanks.


good move. at a rehab i volunteered for, most of the issues were when people went home to old friends who were addicts and back to addiction they went.

you did the RIGHT thing thankfully and are alive today. thank you Jesus.


God is still waiting for you, and so am i. blessings and many blessings to you Bongs; keep trying, God is still there every day.

even are Atheists here know that, but they like playing the fake Atheist games on this forum. they almost sound clever like they are the first to come up with the idea that we are our own god................we are not. we are still dependent on God for every breath and heart beat.

every. single. day. without fail. God's mercies are new every morning, so go with God and pray for help...........and he will. God just doesn't come down with trumpets and angels announcing what he does. that is more like a Politician of some kind LOL



blessings and joy forever Bongs.


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I love that boot camp analogy!

 

[Revelation]

I love that boot camp analogy!

thanks.

having been thru boot camp, it kind of fits. the Fake atheists here on this forum have no real clue what life is about.

they may have gotten a Raw Deal, so they go into a rage claiming God doesn't exist.

God doesn't force them to turn to him, that is on them. i try to give them a hint on what is going on, but they know it all and will tell christians that in no uncertain terms.

fine, have it your way. how is that working out for you now? how is that working out for you into All Eternity, say 10,000 years from today?


thought so.


blessings.


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[tosca1]

I was at the bottom of my personal barrel decades ago. I read the Bible, asked god for help and got nothing but more cravings for heroin. So, I decided to take it upon myself to end my addiction that I had for twenty plus years and move to Florida with the intent of not seeking out heroin once I got here and that's exactly what I did. No god's, no drugs to detox, just me weathering my personal storm. I'm now thirty five years clean of heroin and your god didn't help me out one little bit.

Hang on a sec!
Wait a minute!
Hold it right there!






How do you know it wasn't GOD who gave you that idea?
Even the plan to move to Florida?
How do you know it wasn't GOD who gave you that strength and resolve to kick out that habit once and for all?


What response from God were you expecting?
A spectacular miracle?

 

[bongsaway]

christianity goes beyond handling the hassles of modern life, much more.

this Life is Boot Camp basically, we have a whole new life waiting in Eternity..........that IS the point. and a good place to start your life is what your End will look like.



amen. so actually he did; give God the credit for that please. thanks.


good move. at a rehab i volunteered for, most of the issues were when people went home to old friends who were addicts and back to addiction they went.

you did the RIGHT thing thankfully and are alive today. thank you Jesus.


God is still waiting for you, and so am i. blessings and many blessings to you Bongs; keep trying, God is still there every day.

even are Atheists here know that, but they like playing the fake Atheist games on this forum. they almost sound clever like they are the first to come up with the idea that we are our own god................we are not. we are still dependent on God for every breath and heart beat.

every. single. day. without fail. God's mercies are new every morning, so go with God and pray for help...........and he will. God just doesn't come down with trumpets and angels announcing what he does. that is more like a Politician of some kind LOL



blessings and joy forever Bongs.


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Oh my, give god credit, tell me you're kidding? Your god NEVER pulled a needle out of either of my arms.

 

[bongsaway]

A vigorous headshake, Bongsaway.

You're in a forum.

Perhaps you shouldn't be here if you feel being "demonized" by Christians who pushes back on your demonization of GOD and Christianity.









As I said...........to each his own.


Generally speaking - just because you feel that something didn't work well for you, don't assume that it won't work for others.
It did for me! BIG TIME!
It worked for others as well, based on testimonies given by other folks.


So, there!

Great, feel free to give credit to your invisible entity. I give credit to myself and take responsibility for the things I do, not some invisible friend. If you Christian folks are so offended, stop responding to me. Simple, no?

 

[bongsaway]

Hang on a sec!
Wait a minute!
Hold it right there!






How do you know it wasn't GOD who gave you that idea?
Even the plan to move to Florida?
How do you know it wasn't GOD who gave you that strength and resolve to kick out that habit once and for all?


What response from God were you expecting?
A spectacular miracle?

Oh please. I know because I was looking at three paths and two I didn't care for, jail, death. The third, remove myself from the situation, move and don't look for it after you move. No gods involved. Why do you have such a hard time with that explanation that you still insist it was your god who gave me the thought. Horseshit, I was a lowlife scum junkie and I decided I had had enough. Nothing magical or supernatural was involved.

 

[Logician Man]

Oh my, give god credit, tell me you're kidding? Your god NEVER pulled a needle out of either of my arms.

'If' there is Creator God, it would be that very same Creator God that created the poppy plant seeds that heroine is derived/processed from that it's human creations get addicted to.

 

[Revelation]

Oh my, give god credit, tell me you're kidding? Your god NEVER pulled a needle out of either of my arms.

that is NOT how God works, that IS how you work.

God does work in mysterious ways, you have to be humble enuf to figure out what is going on.

but you are not humble, you are proud of yourself and Bong is now his own god.

so God leaves you to your own destruction if that is what you want. one million years from today, you will remember what i told you and then forever regret making Bong his own god.

your choice, two paths in life and only two: Truth or everything else.

most people? they choose the Easy Path of what the world is doing and then fail in the end. that end is Bitter, very bitter.

stay away from the Fake Atheists here, they are fighting a battle they can't win.


blessings Bong, God be with you thru Eternity. are you done with Bootcamp yet?


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[bongsaway]

'If' there is Creator God, it would be that very same Creator God that created the poppy plant seeds that heroine is derived/processed from that it's human creations get addicted to.

Nope, that's satan's doing.

 

[bongsaway]

that is NOT how God works, that IS how you work.

God does work in mysterious ways, you have to be humble enuf to figure out what is going on.

but you are not humble, you are proud of yourself and Bong is now his own god.

so God leaves you to your own destruction if that is what you want. one million years from today, you will remember what i told you and then forever regret making Bong his own god.

your choice, two paths in life and only two: Truth or everything else.

most people? they choose the Easy Path of what the world is doing and then fail in the end. that end is Bitter, very bitter.

stay away from the Fake Atheists here, they are fighting a battle they can't win.


blessings Bong, God be with you thru Eternity. are you done with Bootcamp yet?


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Once again all this is because I refuse to believe in your god, what arrogance. You can tell yourself whatever you wish just stop expecting me to buy into your beliefs.

 

[Revelation]

'If' there is Creator God, it would be that very same Creator God that created the poppy plant seeds that heroine is derived/processed from that it's human creations get addicted to.

Logic you of all people KNOW the answer to that question, you just wanna avoid the answer.

God made poppy seeds and you can use them for food on poppy seed bread. poppy seeds can be used for medical care/Pharmaceuticals for pain relief for millions

or abuse by drug addicts.

you KNOW this Logic, stop yur fake war against God and move on to the Faith war against this world.


or is the Toaster your real destiny? doesn't have to be, but most are silly enuf to go that route.


think different, very different..............today. today is all you have.


bye.

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[Revelation]

Once again all this is because I refuse to believe in your god, what arrogance. You can tell yourself whatever you wish just stop expecting me to buy into your beliefs.

yeah 'arrogance', good one.

Bongs i expect Zero from you, i give you a few rational reasons to move forward, and i am on my way. we may never meet, except in heaven, and i have faith that you and Logic will be there.

well maybe one of you i will meet there hopefully.

actually i have more hope for you over Logic, he is hardened in his ways.

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[Logician Man]

Nope, that's satan's doing.

According to the Christian bible, it would be the Christian Creator God that "created" the poppy plant/seeds. Satan would be the one who "tempts" God's human creations to use the heroine processed from the poppy plant which the Creator God allows since have given Satan the power to "rule this world" per biblical scripture.

 

[Michael Cole]

God is still waiting for you, and so am i.

Sin.

 

[Logician Man]

you just wanna avoid the answer.

Speaking of "avoiding answers" - Still waiting for your answer to the below question posed to you in post #393 up thread, Rev. -

• #393

Well, heck, Rev. On that note, please enlighten us all on the matter of "child discipline".

Why don't you explain your rationale and thought processes as to why you posted your wishes and desires to "find the guy with the biggest arm and lay into offenders" which are defenseless minor-aged school children? Why seek out the "guy with the biggest arm" to hit a child with a wooden device if not to inflict the maximum amount of physical harm upon the little child? Can a man or a woman with a 'smaller arm' not hit the defenseless little minor-aged school child with enough force to properly "discipline" the little "offender"?

Thanks in advance.

 

[Revelation]

Speaking of "avoiding answers" - Still waiting for your answer to the below question posed to you in post #393 up thread, Rev. -

• #393

Well, heck, Rev. On that note, please enlighten us all on the matter of "child discipline".

Why don't you explain your rationale and thought processes as to why you posted your wishes and desires to "find the guy with the biggest arm and lay into offenders" which are defenseless minor-aged school children? Why seek out the "guy with the biggest arm" to hit a child with a wooden device if not to inflict the maximum amount of physical harm upon the little child? Can a man or a woman with a 'smaller arm' not hit the defenseless little minor-aged school child with enough force to properly "discipline" the little "offender"?

Thanks in advance.

your forum tactics are so boring and unoriginal. this has been covered since forever, why not read and think about the answers you have been given by Daisy and i ???

actually you don't want answers, cause you are a Fake Atheist fighting God kinda like the rest here.


blessings Logic

 

[Logician Man]

your forum tactics are so boring and unoriginal. this has been covered since forever, why not read and think about the answers you have been given by Daisy and i ???

actually you don't want answers, cause you are a Fake Atheist fighting God kinda like the rest here.


blessings Logic



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[Revelation]

why wonder why when all the answers are next to you AND have always been at arm's reach ???

now they are available on YouTube, amazon and bazillions of real bible churches.

sleep on Logic, no answers wanted or needed in your replies.


gotta run, business to do. when i come back, i wanna here some Original stuff that you pull out of thin air instead of of garbage blowing around in the street that helps and condemns all who go that way.

time for Real Change and real thoughts.


blessings.

 

[Logician Man]

all the answers are next to you AND have always been at arm's reach ???

You haven't answered the 'specific' below question regarding "child discipline" as of yet, Rev. - Please do so now - Thanks in advance. -



Why don't you explain your rationale and thought processes as to why you posted your wishes and desires to "find the guy with the biggest arm and lay into offenders" which are defenseless minor-aged school children? Why seek out the "guy with the biggest arm" to hit a child with a wooden device if not to inflict the maximum amount of physical harm upon the little child? Can a man or a woman with a 'smaller arm' not hit the defenseless little minor-aged school child with enough force to properly "discipline" the little "offender"?

 

[Lisa]

No, but I have been studying God's Word for over 50 years now...not reading, actually studying...

You didn't study god's word because if it was the actual word of god then I would not be an atheiost because there would be objective evidence if a creator deity,. What you studied is the bible that is the word of man who wrote passages claiming to be god to give the bible an appearance of officiality. Its still the word of man that you read.

Facts matter.

 

[Daisy]

Blaming God for man's screw ups of His creation...real intelligent...NOT...

 

[Lisa]

Blaming God for man's screw ups of His creation...real intelligent...NOT...

Your god is claimed to be all knowing (knows the past, present, and future) and all powerful (they created everything), so any mistake was planned by your god, and they knew it was a mistake because they are all knowing.

This is also why sin is impossible and prayer is a waste of time. Your god created my logic.

 

[Revelation]

Your god is claimed to be all knowing (knows the past, present, and future) and all powerful (they created everything), so any mistake was planned by your god, and they knew it was a mistake because they are all knowing.

no Lisa, you have free will. you were created in God's image.

This is also why sin is impossible and prayer is a waste of time. Your god created my logic.

wow, you need some Theology 101. pick up a copy of the old King James bible and start there.

then read my Cartoons with some reverent understanding of the points extolled. pray without ceasing and you will be on yur way.

 

[bongsaway]

yeah 'arrogance', good one.

Bongs i expect Zero from you, i give you a few rational reasons to move forward, and i am on my way. we may never meet, except in heaven, and i have faith that you and Logic will be there.

well maybe one of you i will meet there hopefully.

actually i have more hope for you over Logic, he is hardened in his ways.

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You keep insisting don't you? Reasons to move forward to what, your beliefs? No thank you.

 

[bongsaway]

Blaming God for man's screw ups of His creation...real intelligent...NOT...

Are you saying when we were born we were perfectly created in his image? Is this also true about kids born with birth defects or did that happen because of the original sin they came into those world possessing somehow. I honestly don't understand how folks like you do not see the constant contradictions of your beliefs?