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Trust God and call it a day? I saw that bumper sticker this morning. I think it's stupid. How about trust yourself instead?

Are you saying when we were born we were perfectly created in his image?
No, that was Adam and Eve who were made perfect...their disobedience lost perfection for themselves, as well as all their offspring when they passed their imperfect genes on to us all...

Is this also true about kids born with birth defects or did that happen because of the original sin they came into those world possessing somehow.
Nobody is born perfect so what do you think?

I honestly don't understand how folks like you do not see the constant contradictions of your beliefs?
I have not contradicted myself...
 
As an adult do you not know the difference between right and wrong? Does a book have to tell you? What's with this belief in an all powerful imaginary being that is invisible? To my knowledge not a person has proved this entity even exists yet I'm told my many I should ask for forgiveness from this invisible entity and then worship said entity?

Sorry, but that sounds crazy to me even after ten years of catholic school.
I haven't really trusted myself since I was in my early 20s, and I think I was wrong then.
Experience of making mistakes and being wrong.

I don't trust in any deity either though.
 
Actually you have contradicted yourself. Below is the proof.


Daisy said:
Sorry, I don't listen to preachers...

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@Daisy/Elora said:
We are preachers/teachers
Actually, that is not a contradiction...I don't listen to preachers because they teach false doctrines and I have no reason to since I know the truth of God's Word....nice try though...
 
Actually, that is not a contradiction...I don't listen to preachers because they teach false doctrines and I have no reason to since I know the truth of God's Word....nice try though...
Of course it's a blatant contraction, unless you no longer "listen to the preachers" (plural) you are referencing in your below posted words.


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@Daisy/Elora said:
We are preachers/teachers
 
Of course it's a blatant contraction, unless you no longer "listen to the preachers" (plural) you are referencing in your below posted words.


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@Daisy/Elora said:
We are preachers/teachers
As preachers/teachers ourselves we do not listen to the false doctrines that other preachers/teachers embrace...
 
As preachers/teachers ourselves we do not listen to the false doctrines that other preachers/teachers embrace...
You are clearly moving the goalposts, Daisy. There is no mention of "false doctrines" in either of the post links presented in post #427. (fact)
 
You are clearly moving the goalposts, Daisy. There is no mention of "false doctrines" in either of the post links presented in post #427. (fact)
Nope, that is what I meant from the very beginning with my comments but you chose to make a mountain out of a mole hill...not my fault if you jumped to conclusions before having all the facts...
 
Nope, that is what I meant from the very beginning with my comments but you chose to make a mountain out of a mole hill...not my fault if you jumped to conclusions before having all the facts...
Then you should have posted "what you meant". Other DP members can only respond to/address the words you "actually" posted.
 
Then you should have posted "what you meant". Other DP members can only respond to/address the words you "actually" posted.
Sorry, I can't give you a life history...perhaps you shoulda asked for clarification before you took it and run with it...just sayin'...
 
I haven't really trusted myself since I was in my early 20s, and I think I was wrong then.
Experience of making mistakes and being wrong.

I don't trust in any deity either though.
I understand. I can say I started trusting myself after about a dozen years of not being a heroin addict. I was about fifty.
 
Sorry, I can't give you a life history...perhaps you shoulda asked for clarification before you took it and run with it...just sayin'...
No need to ask for clarification, Daisy. If you are incapable of making yourself "clear" in your posts. It's your responsibility to make yourself "clear", instead of attempting to shift your responsibility to the DP member/s who can only address what you have actually posted.
 
No need to ask for clarification, Daisy. If you are incapable of making yourself "clear" in your posts, it's your responsibility to make yourself "clear", instead of attempting to shift your responsibility to the DP member/s who can only address what you have actually posted.
I like short precise posts...if that bugs you...tough...
 
Your "short precise (unclear) posts" by your own admission, resulted in your contradictory posts as is clearly demonstrated in post #247.
No, I did not even post both comments in the same post...when you take posts out of context like you've been known to do, you are the one deliberately screwing up...it's a game you like to play...
 
As preachers/teachers ourselves we do not listen to the false doctrines that other preachers/teachers embrace...
Is Catholicism a "false doctrine" in Jehovah Witness "teachings/preachings" @Daisy? A "short precise" Yes or No response will suffice.

Thanks in advance.
 
No, I did not even post both comments in the same post...when you take posts out of context like you've been known to do, you are the one deliberately screwing up...it's a game you like to play...
No "games are being played", Daisy. Nothing was "taken out of context". The post links presented in your two contradictory posts validate this fact.

You've already admitted up thread what you "meant to say" is not one and the same as what you had previously "said"/posted. Hence your failed attempt to move the goalpost 'after the fact', which resulted in your losing the debating point. Time to accept your clear defeat and move on. ❤️
 
No "games are being played", Daisy. Nothing was "taken out of context". The post links presented in your two contradictory posts validate this fact.

You've already admitted up thread what you "meant to say" is not one and the same as what you had previously "said"/posted. Hence your failed attempt to move the goalpost 'after the fact', which resulted in your losing the debating point.

Time to accept your clear defeat and move on. ❤️

move on?

yeah, we all agree on that, no goal posts needed. thanks
 
No "games are being played", Daisy. Nothing was "taken out of context". The post links presented in your two contradictory posts validate this fact.

You've already admitted up thread what you "meant to say" is not one and the same as what you had previously "said"/posted. Hence your failed attempt to move the goalpost 'after the fact', which resulted in your losing the debating point. Time to accept your clear defeat and move on. ❤️
lol...deceit is your thing, not mine...
 
lol...deceit is your thing, not mine...
So very, very wrong yet again, Daisy.

If there was 'any' intent to "deceive", the links to your two contradictory posts would not have been provided for all DP members to observe. ❤️
 
Hang on a sec!
Wait a minute!
Hold it right there!






How do you know it wasn't GOD who gave you that idea?
Even the plan to move to Florida?
How do you know it wasn't GOD who gave you that strength and resolve to kick out that habit once and for all?


What response from God were you expecting?
A spectacular miracle? :)
A personal god watching out for you, how cozy and comforting.
 
So very, very wrong yet again, Daisy.

If there was 'any' intent to "deceive", the links to your two contradictory posts would not have been provided for all DP members to observe. ❤️
Thank you for posting the links so anyone can follow them to see I was speaking of 2 different topics...one had to do with preachers outside of jw.org and the other had to do with preachers inside of jw.org...much appreciated...
 
Thank you for posting the links so anyone can follow them to see I was speaking of 2 different topics...one had to do with preachers outside of jw.org and the other had to do with preachers inside of jw.org...much appreciated...
You are welcome, Daisy.

Since you introduced "False Religions" into the discussion, please tell us which Christian groups/sects The JWO deems to be "False Religions".

Is Catholicism a "False Religion"?

How about Methodists? Followers of a "False Religion"?

Trinitarian Evangelicals? Followers of a "False Religion"?

Anglican Christians? Also followers of a "False Religion"?

If 'Yes' to any/all of the above, are followers of "False Religions" saved at Armageddon? Yes? Or No?
 
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