Trump Will Hit The Ground Running - Reconciliation Bills Pending

[SkyChief]

Tax Cuts will be on the agenda, of course, but this time they will work, because there will be spending cuts to offset the loss in tax revenues. In his first term, Trump failed to pass spending cuts alongside the Tax Cuts, which of course resulted in massive deficit spending. Spending cuts must always accompany Tax Cuts.

Trump will need to have the Senate's commitment to pass both the Tax bill and the Deregulation Bill by May 31st, go to conference by June, and sign these bills by July 4th. He cannot sit on this.

The biggest Challenge for Trump will be to keep GOP control of the House, as they'll have only a razor-thin margin. This is vital. Just a few seats lost will result in loss of control, and nothing can be achieved. The Senate must move quickly and decisively - - if they wait until September or October, it will be too late.

 

[zincwarrior]

Tax Cuts will be on the agenda, of course, but this time they will work, because there will be spending cuts to offset the loss in tax revenues. In his first term, Trump failed to pass spending cuts alongside the Tax Cuts, which of course resulted in massive deficit spending. Spending cuts must always accompany Tax Cuts.

Well we all know how this will go, don't we.

 

[Integrityrespec]

Tax Cuts will be on the agenda, of course, but this time they will work, because there will be spending cuts to offset the loss in tax revenues. In his first term, Trump failed to pass spending cuts alongside the Tax Cuts, which of course resulted in massive deficit spending. Spending cuts must always accompany Tax Cuts.

Trump will need to have the Senate's commitment to pass both the Tax bill and the Deregulation Bill by May 31st, go to conference by June, and sign these bills by July 4th. He cannot sit on this.

The biggest Challenge for Trump will be to keRepuep GOP control of the House, as they'll have only a razor-thin margin. This is vital. Just a few seats lost will result in loss of control, and nothing can be achieved. The Senate must move quickly and decisively - - if they wait until September or October, it will be too late.

Republicans in Congress need to fall in line on the Trump agenda and not demand ridiculous pork in order to vote on bills.

 

[Bok Tuklo]

Republicans in Congress need to fall in line on the Trump agenda and not demand ridiculous pork in order to vote on bills.

I think you have the problem backward. If there is an issue, it will because there is too much spending. Some poor kid in El Paso is getting asthma medicine and can breathe freely and there are Republicans will kill the bill unless it is taken away.

 

[ColdHardTruth]

Tax Cuts will be on the agenda, of course, but this time they will work, because there will be spending cuts to offset the loss in tax revenues. In his first term, Trump failed to pass spending cuts alongside the Tax Cuts, which of course resulted in massive deficit spending. Spending cuts must always accompany Tax Cuts.

Trump will need to have the Senate's commitment to pass both the Tax bill and the Deregulation Bill by May 31st, go to conference by June, and sign these bills by July 4th. He cannot sit on this.

The biggest Challenge for Trump will be to keep GOP control of the House, as they'll have only a razor-thin margin. This is vital. Just a few seats lost will result in loss of control, and nothing can be achieved. The Senate must move quickly and decisively - - if they wait until September or October, it will be too late.

Tax cuts for the wealthy are not going to help the middle class.

The wealthy need to lose ALL TAX CUTS, and they need to pay their damn taxes.

 

[WorldWatcher]

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Hit the ground running?

I'd say Trump hasn't done any running in a good 25 years or more.

WW

 

[Luce]

Tax Cuts will be on the agenda, of course, but this time they will work,

We hear that every time.

because there will be spending cuts to offset the loss in tax revenues. In his first term, Trump failed to pass spending cuts alongside the Tax Cuts, which of course resulted in massive deficit spending. Spending cuts must always accompany Tax Cuts.

So what's he going to cut, again? The entire civilian federal payroll is 4% of the budget.

 

[ttwtt78640]

Well we all know how this will go, don't we.

Yep, federal spending cuts will be ‘promised’ for future fiscal years, but the tax cuts will start (or remain in place) before then. The ‘goal’ expressed by DOGE is for draconian (up to $2T/year?) spending cuts to be announced by 7/4/2026, but by then the federal “budget” authorizations for FY2025 and FY2026 will have already been passed, thus any DOGE proposed spending cuts passed would be for FY2027 and beyond.

We have no idea whether the reublicants will have a House (or Senate) majority after the 2026 mid-term elections - especially if the annual federal “budget” deficits (for FY2025 and FY2026) remain at about $2T.

 

[WorldWatcher]

In his first term, Trump failed to pass spending cuts alongside the Tax Cuts, which of course resulted in massive deficit spending. Spending cuts must always accompany Tax Cuts.

So he screwed up.

Got it.

WW

 

[ttwtt78640]

We hear that every time.

So what's he going to cut, again? The entire civilian federal payroll is 4% of the budget.

Yep, even if 100% of non-defense federal ‘discretionary’ spending was cut (mission impossible) then we would still have a federal “budget” deficit.

 

[Mycroft]

Tax Cuts will be on the agenda, of course, but this time they will work, because there will be spending cuts to offset the loss in tax revenues. In his first term, Trump failed to pass spending cuts alongside the Tax Cuts, which of course resulted in massive deficit spending. Spending cuts must always accompany Tax Cuts.

Trump will need to have the Senate's commitment to pass both the Tax bill and the Deregulation Bill by May 31st, go to conference by June, and sign these bills by July 4th. He cannot sit on this.

The biggest Challenge for Trump will be to keep GOP control of the House, as they'll have only a razor-thin margin. This is vital. Just a few seats lost will result in loss of control, and nothing can be achieved. The Senate must move quickly and decisively - - if they wait until September or October, it will be too late.

Trump has two major problems when it comes to Congress.

1. The House. As you say, a razer thin majority. Just a few GOP Elites can defeat any legislation that Trump wants.

2. The Senate. This chamber is dominated by GOP Elites. Trump won't get anything past the Senate unless the GOP Elites want it to get past them.

The only hammer that Trump can hold over either chamber is the threat of any GOP politician who goes against Trump will be primaried...and potentially lose their jobs.

Murkowski understands this and compains about it.

Alaska Senator Lisa Murkowski Laments Horror of Next Four Years Accountable to the Voters - The Last Refuge

The “No Labels” group is the modern spin on the term “UniParty.” These are the professionally political minds that see everything good about a singular ideological perspective in Washington DC that grows the administrative state and lives in a stratum far above the sheeple voters. Perhaps the...

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[Bok Tuklo]

Trump has two major problems when it comes to Congress.

1. The House. As you say, a razer thin majority. Just a few GOP Elites can defeat any legislation that Trump wants.

2. The Senate. This chamber is dominated by GOP Elites. Trump won't get anything past the Senate unless the GOP Elites want it to get past them.

The only hammer that Trump can hold over either chamber is the threat of any GOP politician who goes against Trump will be primaried...and potentially lose their jobs.

Murkowski understands this and compains about it.

Alaska Senator Lisa Murkowski Laments Horror of Next Four Years Accountable to the Voters - The Last Refuge

The “No Labels” group is the modern spin on the term “UniParty.” These are the professionally political minds that see everything good about a singular ideological perspective in Washington DC that grows the administrative state and lives in a stratum far above the sheeple voters. Perhaps the...

theconservativetreehouse.com

Alaska still has ranked choice voting. So when the author of that piece says "Where 'allegiant to party' actually means accountable to the voters’ expectations," those voters aren't just Trump fluffers.

 

[zincwarrior]

We hear that every time.

So what's he going to cut, again? The entire civilian federal payroll is 4% of the budget.

DO you have a link, so I can use that in other discussions?

 

[Luce]

DO you have a link, so I can use that in other discussions?

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/who-are-us-federal-workers-that-trump-musk-want-trim-2024-11-19/

The government spent $271 billion on salary and benefits for those workers in the 2022 fiscal year, according to the Congressional Budget Office, equal to 4.3% of total spending that year.

There's also .gov links, but you have to wade through discretionary spending vs total budget.

 

[ttwtt78640]

Trump has two major problems when it comes to Congress.

1. The House. As you say, a razer thin majority. Just a few GOP Elites can defeat any legislation that Trump wants.

2. The Senate. This chamber is dominated by GOP Elites. Trump won't get anything past the Senate unless the GOP Elites want it to get past them.

The only hammer that Trump can hold over either chamber is the threat of any GOP politician who goes against Trump will be primaried...and potentially lose their jobs.

Murkowski understands this and compains about it.

Alaska Senator Lisa Murkowski Laments Horror of Next Four Years Accountable to the Voters - The Last Refuge

The “No Labels” group is the modern spin on the term “UniParty.” These are the professionally political minds that see everything good about a singular ideological perspective in Washington DC that grows the administrative state and lives in a stratum far above the sheeple voters. Perhaps the...

theconservativetreehouse.com

Some important federal spending facts:

1) total federal discretionary spending for 2023 was $1.7T

2) about half (47%) of that discretionary spending was for national defense and over half if you include the (8%) spending for veterans benefits and services

3) even if all non-defense or veterans discretionary spending was cut (mission impossible) it would still leave an annual federal “budget” deficit of nearly $1T.

https://usafacts.org/how-much-of-the-federal-budget-is-discretionary-spending/

 

[ttwtt78640]

Trump has two major problems when it comes to Congress.

1. The House. As you say, a razer thin majority. Just a few GOP Elites can defeat any legislation that Trump wants.

2. The Senate. This chamber is dominated by GOP Elites. Trump won't get anything past the Senate unless the GOP Elites want it to get past them.

The only hammer that Trump can hold over either chamber is the threat of any GOP politician who goes against Trump will be primaried...and potentially lose their jobs.

Murkowski understands this and compains about it.

Alaska Senator Lisa Murkowski Laments Horror of Next Four Years Accountable to the Voters - The Last Refuge

The “No Labels” group is the modern spin on the term “UniParty.” These are the professionally political minds that see everything good about a singular ideological perspective in Washington DC that grows the administrative state and lives in a stratum far above the sheeple voters. Perhaps the...

theconservativetreehouse.com

Hmm… since most (if not all) federal spending has the approval of at least some of the donor class, a congress critter is very likely to be ‘primaried’ if they cut spending deemed ‘important’ by their donor class. While Trump isn’t worried about re-election - most congress critters are.

 

[Mycroft]

Hmm… since most (if not all) federal spending has the approval of at least some of the donor class, a congress critter is very likely to be ‘primaried’ if they cut spending deemed ‘important’ by their donor class. While Trump isn’t worried about re-election - most congress critters are.

So...they are between a rock and a hard place.

Good.

 

[Mycroft]

Alaska still has ranked choice voting. So when the author of that piece says "Where 'allegiant to party' actually means accountable to the voters’ expectations," those voters aren't just Trump fluffers.

Murkowski isn't just compaining on her own behalf. She is lamenting the position ALL the GOP Elites now find themselves in.

 

[mike2810]

Tax Cuts will be on the agenda, of course, but this time they will work, because there will be spending cuts to offset the loss in tax revenues. In his first term, Trump failed to pass spending cuts alongside the Tax Cuts, which of course resulted in massive deficit spending. Spending cuts must always accompany Tax Cuts.

Seems to me even if Congress cuts enough to offset the lost revenue from taxes the National Debt will still go up. Congress will continue to borrow money to cover the difference.

Trump will need to have the Senate's commitment to pass both the Tax bill and the Deregulation Bill by May 31st, go to conference by June, and sign these bills by July 4th. He cannot sit on this.

The biggest Challenge for Trump will be to keep GOP control of the House, as they'll have only a razor-thin margin. This is vital. Just a few seats lost will result in loss of control, and nothing can be achieved. The Senate must move quickly and decisively - - if they wait until September or October, it will be too late.

I long for the days when members of Congress of both Parties worked together to pass meaningful legislation.

I am not sure the tax cut and spending cut will result in a balanced budget.

imo, I would prefer for Congress to make some cuts, increase revenue and pay down the debt to a manageable level.
I would venture a guess that in four years the National debt will increase each year.

 

[ModernDiogenes]

Tax Cuts will be on the agenda, of course, but this time they will work, because there will be spending cuts to offset the loss in tax revenues. In his first term, Trump failed to pass spending cuts alongside the Tax Cuts, which of course resulted in massive deficit spending. Spending cuts must always accompany Tax Cuts.

Trump will need to have the Senate's commitment to pass both the Tax bill and the Deregulation Bill by May 31st, go to conference by June, and sign these bills by July 4th. He cannot sit on this.

The biggest Challenge for Trump will be to keep GOP control of the House, as they'll have only a razor-thin margin. This is vital. Just a few seats lost will result in loss of control, and nothing can be achieved. The Senate must move quickly and decisively - - if they wait until September or October, it will be too late.

Right, and where does P2025 say those spending cuts will come from?

You wonderful fellow working and middle class folk who have shot yourselves in your own foot and are pretending you haven't. Soon you will be feeling the pinch of the end result as the economic effect of a corporate/oligharical minority that have run out of room in "Trickle Down" to further line their pockets have moved to picking yours even further to make up the difference.

There are none so blind... Well, you can't see. Maybe you will know when you feel.

 

[ttwtt78640]

So...they are between a rock and a hard place.

Good.

IMHO, Trump won’t be interested in party politics after the 2026 mid-terms and most (if not all) of the DOGE spending cut ‘detailed’ recommendations won’t come out before their stated 7/4/2026 deadline, thus would apply to the FY2027 federal “budget” year - not passed until after the 2026 mid-term elections.

Remember that congress critters currently enjoy re-election rates of over 90% by engaging in continuous annual federal “budget” deficit (stimulus?) spending.

 

[Bodecea]

Tax Cuts will be on the agenda, of course, but this time they will work, because there will be spending cuts to offset the loss in tax revenues. In his first term, Trump failed to pass spending cuts alongside the Tax Cuts, which of course resulted in massive deficit spending. Spending cuts must always accompany Tax Cuts.

Trump will need to have the Senate's commitment to pass both the Tax bill and the Deregulation Bill by May 31st, go to conference by June, and sign these bills by July 4th. He cannot sit on this.

The biggest Challenge for Trump will be to keep GOP control of the House, as they'll have only a razor-thin margin. This is vital. Just a few seats lost will result in loss of control, and nothing can be achieved. The Senate must move quickly and decisively - - if they wait until September or October, it will be too late.

 

[Bodecea]

Trump has two major problems when it comes to Congress.

1. The House. As you say, a razer thin majority. Just a few GOP Elites can defeat any legislation that Trump wants.

2. The Senate. This chamber is dominated by GOP Elites. Trump won't get anything past the Senate unless the GOP Elites want it to get past them.

The only hammer that Trump can hold over either chamber is the threat of any GOP politician who goes against Trump will be primaried...and potentially lose their jobs.

Murkowski understands this and compains about it.

Alaska Senator Lisa Murkowski Laments Horror of Next Four Years Accountable to the Voters - The Last Refuge

The “No Labels” group is the modern spin on the term “UniParty.” These are the professionally political minds that see everything good about a singular ideological perspective in Washington DC that grows the administrative state and lives in a stratum far above the sheeple voters. Perhaps the...

theconservativetreehouse.com

 

[Mycroft]

IMHO, Trump won’t be interested in party politics after the 2026 mid-terms and most (if not all) of the DOGE spending cut ‘detailed’ recommendations won’t come out before their stated 7/4/2026 deadline, thus would apply to the FY2027 federal “budget” year - not passed until after the 2026 mid-term elections.

I disagree.

DOGE will be the loudspeaker that exposes the out of control spending that a Democratic majority in Congress would be pushing.

Remember that congress critters currently enjoy re-election rates of over 90% by engaging in continuous annual federal “budget” deficit (stimulus?) spending.

And, this time around, their re-election rate will be in peril if they do that.

 

[aociswundumho]

Tax Cuts will be on the agenda,

As well as tax increases.

To me the most beautiful word in the dictionary is "tariff"