Moonflower
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Trump says a lot of things. Do you take them all as the gospel truth, or --conveniently-- just when it serves your purpose?
The American people just bitch slapped the Republicans. Or did you forget that there was an election?
Walls are not effective border security. But you and your God-Emperor are having a temper tantrum because Democrats won't let him do whatever he wants.
He said he would protect us and he has, he said he would create jobs and growth and he has, he said he would put America first and he has, nothing else matters
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Chuck Shumer, for one.Like you do? Trump's word has been worthless for decades. He was schooled into claiming the shutdown by actual politicians. Look at the title of this thread. Who is promising a long shutdown when a bipartisan agreement has been on the table for weeks?
What Trump said or didn't say is irrelevant. The majority in Congress wants the bill to pass, and Chuck Schumer is going to filibuster. To say he shares none of the blame for the shutdown is either ignorance, stupidity, or both.He took that blame upon himself. Whether you believe it or not the Senate hasn't found majority vote on the wall funding- something that could have been avoided if Trump had signed the deal that he said he would so that he and Congress Democrats could find common ground and most importantly not shutdown the government. I dont take all he says as the gospel truth but i will very well hold him accountable when he does something stupid and people like you see it fit to deflect his bad decisions on other.
What Trump said or didn't say is irrelevant. The majority in Congress wants the bill to pass, and Chuck Schumer is going to filibuster. To say he shares none of the blame for the shutdown is either ignorance, stupidity, or both.
The senate passed a spending bill on December 19th that would have kept the government funded until February.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&sou...aw1Y4v3q6x3c4OdIju9gQHS1&ust=1545701068633535
Why did that bill not satisfy trump?
Did you not follow the news on that one? It didn't have wall funding.The senate passed a spending bill on December 19th that would have kept the government funded until February.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&sou...aw1Y4v3q6x3c4OdIju9gQHS1&ust=1545701068633535
Why did that bill not satisfy trump?
Did you not follow the news on that one? It didn't have wall funding.
But you do make a good point. Senate Republicans did everything they could to avert a shutdown, Democrats did not and share in the blame.
For the filibuster the second go round.Um, wasn’t the Senate vote unanimous? So how can you blame the Democrats?
Well I am glad you feel safer.
So which is it, was it a slow recovery or one so fast all the programs funded to combat the recession couldn't be spent in time to suit you? I think it's you that has bought right wing propaganda hook line and sinker. -sad
Ha ha ha; your so funny.
Now, the truth IS the Democrats have tried to compromise and HAVE offered increased funding for boarder security in exchange for "COMPROMISE" on DACA and other issues; they, as the majority of Americans, just don't think spending us into debt over a wall, that few believe will work, is the right choice and won't do it.
Except that that is a moronic talking point fed to the low intellect Trump lemming. Can you name at least 6 people who support open borders and have influence?Of course democrats who stubbornly support open borders do not think a wall will work.
Except that that is a moronic talking point fed to the low intellect Trump lemming. Can you name at least 6 people who support open borders and have influence?
If the agreement was made between the Dems and hop and Trump didn't like the agreement, why should he sign something he is not in agreement with?Government workers not getting paid doesn’t sound like a negative to me. Th governments too big and has too many workers anyway. I’m not shedding any tears that my money isn’t going to support them. Maybe they can quit and go to private sector and actually contribute to society for a change
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What Trump said or didn't say is irrelevant. The majority in Congress wants the bill to pass, and Chuck Schumer is going to filibuster. To say he shares none of the blame for the shutdown is either ignorance, stupidity, or both.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-46637638
US President Donald Trump has threatened a "very long" government shutdown if Democrats do not fund his long-promised border wall.
In a series of tweets, Mr Trump demanded $5.7bn (£4.5bn), which was passed by the House of Representatives, but is expected to fail in the Senate.
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He had Tweeted that the shutdown would start today. I would not call his actions 'leadership.'
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