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Trump to use military to round up asylum claimants

americanwoman said:
Factually they have already committed a federal crime being undocumented. I think you'd find the average citizen has not broken any federal laws.

Also I don't know if you actually know, hang, or live around any undocumented person but personally the ones I know don't exactly keep a low profile. Unless you call drinking and blasting norteno music until 4am low profile,

Now don't get me wrong, I have no issue with them. They work hard and are great people but let's not kid ourselves on "facts" that really aren't proven.
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Responding to the second half of your post, yeah I worked in the hospitality industry out west for 10 years or so. I spoke Spanish more than English some of those years. Most of my friends were illegals
 
Winston said:
Responding to the second half of your post, yeah I worked in the hospitality industry out west for 10 years or so. I spoke Spanish more than English some of those years. Most of my friends were illegals
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Well hopefully out west they kept more of a low profile plus the hospital industry may attract a different worker than slaughterhouses and construction.
 
Torus34 said:
This should prove interesting. There are countries, China and Cuba among them, that will not accept deportees back.

This poor old country mouse is going to see if any private US prisons issue public stock. It might well prove an excellent investment, at least for 4 years.
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You’re a little late to the fiesta!



Torus34 said:
Regards, stay safe 'n well . . . informed.
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MamboDervish said:
Seeking asylum in this country is NOT ILLEGAL !!!
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It's legal if you apply at a legal port of entry. If you just sneak in, you are a criminal. And let's be intellectually honest. Those turds sneaking across the border do so with no intention of rquesting asylum. That is merely what the cartel coyotes who smuggle them in tell them to shoput if they are caught.
 
How is the military going to do a mass deportation program?
 
Winston said:
You are a far bigger propagandist than the MSM you love to deflect blame to
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Need I remind you of the long list of baseless MSM propaganda based on out of context quote fragment, contortions and distortions all simply to be used as attack vectors?
Or haven't those facts, as established in the public record, made it past your mental force field which deflects any non-ideologically aligns facts?
 
eohrnberger said:
Need I remind you of the long list of baseless MSM propaganda based on out of context quote fragment, contortions and distortions all simply to be used as attack vectors?
Or haven't those facts, as established in the public record, made it past your mental force field which deflects any non-ideologically aligns facts?
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Save it, I know your lies already.
 
Winston said:
Why would they even report the data if it wasn’t real?
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You have it backwards. They do not report data, because they choose not to collect it.


One anecdotal example from my personal life. After college, two of my friends and I moved into a condo in a low-rent part of town (we were still broke waiters and booksellers). We were the only white kids in about a square mile, the rest was all hispanic. Most were probably varying shades of legality, but we thought it was cool because, bloc parties and great mexican food.

One of my buddies had a classic mustang he had rebuilt with his dad - beautiful car. The guy had a kind of awkward relationship with his dad (his dad was kind of a Man's Man who thought men should make things. My buddy was a theater major who loved fantasy novels), and, I think building that car together was kind of The Thing They Had.

Anywho, he's sitting at a stop sign one day and one of our neighbors T-Bones him, doing maybe about 35, which isn't terribly fast, until it hits you in the side. The other driver then pulled back, and drove off. Car was all smashed up. Naturally, we called the cops. They came and took notes and then asked if we knew anything about the guy, a tag number, etc.

"Oh yes" we replied, naively, "he lives in that apartment section right there, and works at [Restaurant name] down the road - he's probably there now on shift, and will be back tonight."

The two cops look at each other. "Er, is he an illegal?"

"Uh, maybe - why?"


...And that is when we found out that the regular law that applies to you and me doesn't apply to illegals. Because it's too much trouble and paperwork, so long as they aren't actually physically attacking anyone, the cops were under direction not to ticket them, not to arrest them, not to take them in, not to do anything that would force them to notice that the people they were interacting with were here illegally. Tough luck, kid, you understand, I'm sorry, but there's nothing we can do - you'll just have to fix the car.

This wasn't in some kind of deep-blue San-Fransisco-type area of a deep-blue state. This was in Alabama. During the Bush Administration.

My buddy tried to confront the guy and get him to pay for the damages, but that went south pretty fast, and we left after being threatened with violence. We slept with loaded weapons next to our beds after that until the lease was up.
 
americanwoman said:
Factually they have already committed a federal crime being undocumented.
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Generally speaking, unlawful entry only incurs civil penalties. Unlawful presence ditto. And in fact, US asylum law specifically allows people who have been unlawfully present within the US for up to a full year to seek asylum just as if they presented at the border. They can still seek it if they're picked up after that year, though there are more and harder hoops to jump through

Illegal re-entry - reentry after deportation - is a federal crime.
 
eohrnberger said:
Code: 
https://www.axios.com/2024/11/18/trump-mass-deportations-military-national-emergency?utm_campaign=editorial&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook
So you saw a Facebook post which led you to the leftist Axios opinion article from an undoubtedly is a far left author based in the liberal / progressive echo chamber which is NYC.
How am I doing so far?

And this is what you are proffering as 'fact'? Hmm.
And this is what you are proffering to gin up fauxrage? Hmm.
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Opinion?

 
dmpi said:
It's NOT business like usually. We don't want to give these illegals the impression that they can just hang around and keep ignoring the laws of this great nation.
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Does the opposition to people ignoring laws extend to people ignoring laws about how classified material are supposed to be stored?
 
americanwoman said:
Not always. But what's the point of putting an "end date" on a visa if it's not even taken seriously.
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Most still obey that end date, especially if they want to keep legitimately renewing that visa. But in a world of finite resources, it is impossible to track down every last miscreant. Sure, we could devote a ton of resources to tracking down every last person who is unlawfully present, but then we won't have those same resources to deal with even worse things.

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MAGAnificent said:
It's legal if you apply at a legal port of entry. If you just sneak in, you are a criminal.
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OK ... so ...
MAGAnificent said:
And let's be intellectually honest.
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Oh, don't start now. You were doing so well being intellectually dishonest.
MAGAnificent said:
Those turds sneaking across the border do so with no intention of rquesting asylum.
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First of all, they aren't turds - they're human beings. We currently have a backlog of more than 2 million legitimate asylum seekers awaiting disposition of their cases, many of which would have been decided already if the funding of the Bipartisan Border Bill had not been stopped by Trump. He said you should blame him. Why don't you?
MAGAnificent said:
That is merely what the cartel coyotes who smuggle them in tell them to shoput if they are caught.
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Yeah .... I'm sure that's what all the coyotes have told you.
 
MamboDervish said:
First of all, they aren't turds - they're human beings. We currently have a backlog of more than 2 million legitimate asylum seekers awaiting disposition of their cases, many of which would have been decided already if the funding of the Bipartisan Border Bill had not been stopped by Trump. He said you should blame him. Why don't you?
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How many billions of dollars would it cost to legally review and process 2 million case?! The system is so screwed up and opportunists from all over the world is taking advantage of us. You got to be blind not to see it.
 
Now we know one of the reasons Trump put a stooge in charge of the military. American soldiers rounding up people......I'm not sure this will play well. I also wonder how and what skill they have to do this? It's not like these migrants are all gathered in one place. Will they drive army jeeps through the street looking for brown people and asking for papers .....sound familiar?? The SS were part of the military.

I'm dead serious how does the army do this?
 
dmpi said:
It's NOT business like usually. We don't want to give these illegals the impression that they can just hang around and keep ignoring the laws of this great nation.
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We should have passed the legislation that would have kept them from hanging around for years waiting for a court date. 🤷‍♂️
 
MamboDervish said:
First of all, they aren't turds - they're human beings. We currently have a backlog of more than 2 million legitimate asylum seekers awaiting disposition of their cases, many of which would have been decided already if the funding of the Bipartisan Border Bill had not been stopped by Trump. He said you should blame him. Why don't you?
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The average rejection rate for asylum seekers snealing across the border is 85% Once again, it is just something the turds were told to scream if they get caught. Thoses with legitimate asylum claims can apply either at a legal port of entry or at an American embassy in their country of origin. The rest are the reason for the backlog. They know that making the claim just gets them a court date as far as three years in the future and quick release. Most never show up for the court date. As for the so-called bipartisan border bill, six democrats in the Senate also voted against it, including the likes of Senator Chuckle's Schumer and Senator Ann "Pocohontas" Warren. I am delighted that the insanely stupid border bill was defeated.
 
Callen said:
Now we know one of the reasons Trump put a stooge in charge of the military. American soldiers rounding up people......I'm not sure this will play well. I also wonder how and what skill they have to do this? It's not like these migrants are all gathered in one place. Will they drive army jeeps through the street looking for brown people and asking for papers .....sound familiar?? The SS were part of the military.

I'm dead serious how does the army do this?
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Imagine the abuse migrants will endure
 
dmpi said:
It's NOT business like usually. We don't want to give these illegals the impression that they can just hang around and keep ignoring the laws of this great nation.
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As long as business owners can keep ignoring the laws nothing will change.
All this 'round up and deport' bullshit is just pablum fed to the gullible masses.
 
dmpi said:
How many billions of dollars would it cost to legally review and process 2 million case?! The system is so screwed up and opportunists from all over the world is taking advantage of us. You got to be blind not to see it.
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Ofcourse he would be singing a different tune if he thought they were potential republican voters.
 
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