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Trump to deploy National Guard in response to Los Angeles immigration protests

Good for you. I hope you will apply the same standard to the LA ICE riots.
I absolutely will and I wish you would apply the same standard to Trump's response today vs his response Jan 6th. Trump was right to call in the Guard in this instance but not on the 6th. Explain that to me.
 
Actually, under the Posse comitatus act, NO, he cannot. The NG can be deployed, federal troops cannot.
Federal troops cannot execute the law enforcement mission. But they can keep the peace. That is what they had to do in 1992 in LA. There were active duty Army and Marines deployed in 1992.
 
Nope.

Meuller is a Republican.

Your lies are exposed.

Turn off the Faux.

You should also stop spewing bullshit.
 
2000 police injured.
20+ people killed
$2 BILLION in damage.
The courts said they were right to be outraged. But at that time he was y’all’s hero.

Sometimes tyranny gets ahead of itself and people rise up.

Maybe don’t hitch your wagon to a murderous asshole next time.
 
Federal troops cannot execute the law enforcement mission. But they can keep the peace. That is what they had to do in 1992 in LA. There were active duty Army and Marines deployed in 1992.
Nope. Federal troops CANNOT be used against the American people.
 


Holy hell. Talk about made up nonsense. The vast majority of BLM violent protesters were never charged or had their charged dropped.
 
Holy hell. Talk about made up nonsense. The vast majority of BLM violent protesters were never charged or had their charged dropped.

The charges were later dropped. Most of them were charged.

Stop telling lies.
 
This is funny to me.

The Founders would absolutely not approve of masked unidentifiable thugs on the streets of America. Full stop.

Well the founders would have called out the militia rather than the national guard and many of those protesters would probably just be shot in the face.

The Constitution I am amazingly thorough anti-tyranny system. They literally went down the list of ways tyrants attained and maintained their tyrannies and forbade them to our government.

Tyranny from judges. Tyranny from the gate keepers who demand we let in millions and toss aside our own agency in these matters.

Masked thugs with no badges rounding people up is an element of the rise of every modern tyranny.

The masked thugs are waving Mexican flags, declaring they are Anti-Ice and Antifa. Sorry if you don't like the mirror being held up.

Demand all the protesters follow the rules you expect for ICE. MAGA is not going to fight with one hand tied behind our backs anymore.
 
Actually, under the Posse comitatus act, NO, he cannot. The NG can be deployed, federal troops cannot.

Be they federal active duty or not, the president can use troops to enforce federal laws. Why do you think Eisenhower called out the National Guard after Orville Faubus refused to respect the Supreme Court's desegregation ruling?

The Courts would probably tell the President that such use should be judicious and rare and that not every scenario meets that test, especially when there's no evidence that Gavin Newsom or local leaders are materially obstructing ICE's work. But the law is also vague, to some degree.

That's why people have been concerned about the Insurrection Act and the Defense Reauthorization Acts (at least some of the previous versions of it) for quite some time, particularly during the Trump era. People have long feared this day would come.

Edited: I re-read what you posted.
 
You are so far gone I actually feel kinda sorry for you.

You live in a world completely fabricated to get you to support things that in no way will actually benefit you.
 

Doubling down on the privileged Karen trope is sort of ironically funny.

"Can you please wear a hat so I can make sure you get deported from my neighborhood."

I can understand you feel threatened. You might not be able to afford such a privileged life without the peasant class still being here.

Don't worry. Kids can clean pools and not just swim in them.
 
You mean it’s not normal for senators to celebrate July 4th in Russia?
 
Nope. Federal troops cannot be used in a law enforcement capacity.

This doesn't mean the MAGA scum and the orange rapist will follow the law, but the law doesn't allow them to do law enforcement.
 
An insurrection is what happened on Jan 6, 2021.

What happened in 1992, after the LAPD goon squad assaulted Rodney King, was a riot. None of those people were attempting to overthrow the government. The same cannot be said for the MAGA scum in the capitol on 1/6/2021.

These are NOT similar in ANY way.
 
Nope. Federal troops cannot be used in a law enforcement capacity.

This doesn't mean the MAGA scum and the orange rapist will follow the law, but the law doesn't allow them to do law enforcement.

National Guard isn't strictly a state militia. You're just wrong here. I wish you weren't, but you are.
 
Another using the “I” word.
 
I have posted a thousand times there are no or nowhere near enough generals and admirals active duty or retired for Trump to be firing dozens of generals and admirals to find others -- who do not exist -- to put in place because they would be "willing to play ball." There aren't any as I have posted dozens of times over this period of time.

Trump-Hegseth have removed the top legal officer of each major service, the Army, Navy, Air Force. He removed the black chairman of the JCS and the gal uniformed chief of the Navy. They removed a couple of two-star officers whose careers are closely bound to promoting DEI programs and features. That's it. There is no mass purge occurring.

The culture of the USA military remains strong. All Trump and Hegseth are doing is focusing on DEI, nothing much more than that. The armed forces have refused to do Trump's wet dream "mass deportation" because it was foreseen the active duty force would be the targets of street protests right now instead of ICE and other federal goons doing the work. The military will not do Trump's "mass roundup" of Trump's "enemy within" liberals to be placed in camps then deported.

The armed forces will not shoot unarmed civilians on its own soil no matter. Trump-Hegseth are doing very poorly at changing the culture of the USA armed forces starting with these three vital and signal matters on which the military stands firm in the absolute. -- no deportation, no roundup of liberals and no shooting unarmed civilians. Trump's parade on the 250th anniversary of the Army to include on Trump's 79th birthday is a Mulligan to him from the Pentagon -- no one gets hurt although a lot of good money is going after bad.
 
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Holy hell. Talk about made up nonsense. The vast majority of BLM violent protesters were never charged or had their charged dropped.


That's like 2 seconds of Googling, which is the most I'm going to spend pulling easily found stuff for willfully ignorant people.
 
National Guard isn't strictly a state militia. You're just wrong here. I wish you weren't, but you are.
They can be deployed in times of war, to assist in a war effort, and while they are federally supported, they are under the direct command of the governor of each state.

Federal Troops cannot do law enforcement. They have been used to keep the peace, but they cannot perform law enforcement functions.
 
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