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Trump supporters, is it ok to use force against people protesting against trump's actions during his military parade?

Know, I simply want to ensure we're on the same page.

For instance, when I think of protest, I think of people picketing with signs and bullhorns, not shutting down public roadways, no vandalism, and molotov cocktails, etc.

At which point, no, force shouldn't be applied, as that would be unconstitutional.
 
Know, I simply want to ensure we're on the same page.

For instance, when I think of protest, I think of people picketing with signs and bullhorns, not shutting down public roadways, no vandalism, and molotov cocktails, etc.

At which point, no, force shouldn't be applied, as that would be unconstitutional.


Yawn.


You've never been in a riot.


I have.

Good bye
 
Not an insurrection, as the word is defined and understood.

Insurrection: “a situation in which a large group of people try to take political control of their own country with violence” Oxford.

Insurrection: “an act or instance of revolting against civil authority or an established government.” Webster.

Insurrection: “an organized attempt by a group of people to defeat their government and take control of their country, usually by violence.” Cambridge

The secession of Southern States was an insurrection. They exerted “political control” over a geographical area of the country by forming a distinct, separate, and independent governmental system from that of the federal government under the U.S. Constitution that had existed previously for the same geographical area. The Confederate Government of U.S. subsequently fired upon Fort Sumter.

The January 6 rioters, and their conduct does constitute as riot (“a situation in which a group of people behave in a violent way in a public place, often as a protest”), but not an insurrection as they didn’t act to revolt (revolt: “to renounce allegiance or subjection (as to a government) : REBEL” Webster), didn’t seek to “take control” (control, “to have power over a… country…so that you are able to decide what they must do or how it is run politically for themselves” Oxford) of the “country” or “defeat” the government and “control” the “country.”

The Jan 6 rioters sought to materially and substantially affect a specific session of Congress of counting electoral college ballots. This is an undoubtedly an egregious act meriting prison sentences not worthy of any pardon but not insurrection.

And as much as I dislike Trump, he summoned the guard and Marines for presently the limited use to protect federal buildings and federal law enforcement, in which their interaction with protesters thus far is limited to protesters appearing at those federal buildings/engaging federal officers.
Quite arguable..... now most of these people were minions, props, to a large objective, but Trump was actually found responsible for engaging in insurrection by a Colorado court.... so, it was, at some level, an insurrection.

 
Know, I simply want to ensure we're on the same page.

For instance, when I think of protest, I think of people picketing with signs and bullhorns, not shutting down public roadways, no vandalism, and molotov cocktails, etc.

At which point, no, force shouldn't be applied, as that would be unconstitutional.
You apparently missed all of American history.
 
Newsom is a terrible Governor who supports violence. So there’s that.
After seeing him in his speech last night, I've come to two conclusions.
1. Newsom is a cute little boy dressed up in a suit that's too big for him. He has the suit of a Governor, but he clearly hasn't grown into it.
2. He a politician, but he's not a governor (small g) never mind not being a Governor (uppercase G). He might be fine as the figurehead of some liberal theater organization, but he has no business in any position that directs the affairs of the public.

I hope for him that he finds a benefactor that'll keep him in the style to which he wants to be accustomed, and disappears from the public arena.
 
Well you said about 2 million people were committing violence. Of course, when challenged to prove such a blatantly absurd claim, you attack me in lieu of proving tryour BS.
Nice try.
 
Nice try.
Thanks. You said about 2,000,000 people were destroying downtown L.A.. Then when asked for proof of that, you failed to produce any. Which of course you couldn't produce any supporting evidence since you were hallucinating.
 
If the protesters cross the line, become violent, and start destroying property, force absolutely should be used against them. If they protest peacefully and to not block traffic, no need. And your rant is intellectually dishonest. The only people getting pissed off are TDS inflicted individuals who are massively butthurt that criminal illegal immigrants are getting rounded up and deported.
Can you point out the dishonest parts?
 
Haven't denied a thing - riors wee out of bounds.



Huh? I denied nothing. You're denying that more currently, there more people acting much more violently. Have you issued a single word against them?
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If you haven't already seen the damage and destruction in LA, there's no hope for you.
All I'm asking for is a picture of a destroyed LA, the one you said was destroyed. If you can't show me the picture you claim happened, there's no hope for you. Prove what you post is accurate.
 
Bullshit. None was charged with treason. Per the liberals, since there was no burning vehicles, it was just a peaceful protest.
Your political girlfriend PARDONED criminals.
 
Your political girlfriend PARDONED criminals.
As opposed to the 10+ year blanket pardons that you supported.

Every President pardons criminals. Clinton pardoned convicted terrorists.
 
As opposed to the 10+ year blanket pardons that you supported.

Every President pardons criminals. Clinton pardoned convicted terrorists.
Your political girlfriend pardoned the actual criminals that were trying to overthrow the election for him.

You want to try a whataboutism on that one?
 
Your political girlfriend pardoned the actual criminals that were trying to overthrow the election for him.

You want to try a whataboutism on that one?
When all you have a childish taunts, then I know that you are unable to argue. Have a wonderful day bought to you by President Trump.
 
When all you have a childish taunts, then I know that you are unable to argue. Have a wonderful day bought to you by President Trump.
So basically you're running away because your political girlfriend got a bunch of criminals to try to overthrow an election for him and they were convicted by juries and then he pardoned them and you can't find a comparable example.

🤣🤣🤣🤣
 
As opposed to the 10+ year blanket pardons that you supported.

Every President pardons criminals. Clinton pardoned convicted terrorists.
Mostly for non criminals that Trump was threating to seek retribution against to satisfy his injured ego. Whereas Trump pardoned people who beat up police, threatened lives of lawmakers, threatened the life of the VP, conspired against the U.S., etc..
 
What violence does california have that every other state doesn't have? There were no protests until trump's goons showed up.
ICE agents arent goons. The goons are the leftists engaged in street violence. Get your facts straight.
 
ICE agents arent goons. The goons are the leftists engaged in street violence. Get your facts straight.
Have you noticed the amount of demonstrations around the country for trump's military parade, there are hundreds. I think my facts are straight and you are doing your normal, trying to defend the indefensible.
 
Have you noticed the amount of demonstrations around the country for trump's military parade, there are hundreds. I think my facts are straight and you are doing your normal, trying to defend the indefensible.
I dont care that Trump hating leftists are organizing protests. Its what you guys do. And with regard to the riots, your facts are not straight. The goons are the leftists engaging in violence in the streets. And it is you who are defending the indefensible.
 
I dont care that Trump hating leftists are organizing protests. Its what you guys do. And with regard to the riots, your facts are not straight. The goons are the leftists engaging in violence in the streets. And it is you who are defending the indefensible.
Do you actually believe only folks from the left are protesting? The military and the national guard don't even want to be in LA.
 
Remember how Democrats used to say "no one is above the law"? Well, that SHOULd also apply to radical leftists who riot, loot stores and violently attack police. I know you are accustomed to seeing them get away with that stuff, but those days are obviously over.

So, yes, it's ok to deploy the national guard to stop Marxist radicals from throwing large chunks of cinder blocks from bridges down on police from 30 feet up, then tossing Molotov cocktails on them.

It's ok to deploy them to help overwhelmed local police, who are also having large, professional grade explosive firework mortars fired into their faces. The la police chief verified that it was necessary.
 
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