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Trump Shifts Deportation Focus, Pausing Raids on Farms, Hotels and Eateries

RetiredAtLast said:
Because millions of people saw him as the face of the protest, more concerned with some condition that he apparently knew nothing about than he was with keeping a woman from getting to work to support her kids.
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No, "millions of people" did not see him as the face of the protest. But you're right that he (correctly) felt that the purpose of the protest was more important than some random lady trying to get to work.

I don't care about her sob story any more than you care about the sob stories of illegal immigrants. I don't care about her at all. She can go **** herself.

The point of protests is to disrupt. I recognize that this upsets conservatives, but that's the point - you guys are awful, and upsetting you is fun.


RetiredAtLast said:
His "cause" was yours, or the sponsors of the demonstration. I suspect that he was like many on the left who took part in it, who had no real understanding of what they were doing.
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RetiredAtLast said:
I thought I made that simple enough for you. I'll try once more. If this doesn't work you'll have to get an "F:
  • Our laws are enforced.
  • The number of tourists that come here goes down.
  • The income of the tourism industry goes down.
  • The taxes paid by people and businesses in the tourism industry goes down.
  • The money lost is the cost of enforcing our laws.
  • The cost to improve a thing is an investment in that thing. I like them
  • Enforcing our laws makes the country safer, and that's an improvement
  • A temporary drop in tourism revenue caused by enforcing our laws is an investment in the country.

I have no hatred for foreigners. In my former life, I worked very well with people all over the world. I liked them so much I've been married to one of them for almost half a century.
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This is absurd.
 


Policy shifting day-to-day in this incompetent administration, per usual.

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Gimmesometruth said:
Again, YOU accept that the only barrier....right now....is the willingness of the generals
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No, I don't. Because I refer to the officers of the military, you haven't the ability to think beyond them. You have said, many times, that Trump will try to create a dictatorship but you obviously haven't thought about it. Why is that? Are you incapable of thinking beyond the Party line? You seem to be trying to prove it.
 
TheDoctorWasIn said:
The point of protests is to disrupt
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Disruption of the "system" is legitimate. Blocking freeways to prevent emergency vehicles is stupid. Blocking people who may even agree with you from getting home after a tiring day's work is stupid and may even work against your "cause." Looting small businesses is stupid and often hurts the people you claim to support. And being seen by millions as this asshole was, disrupting one mother from getting to work and mocking her for thinking that work is important - all amlost as stupid as saying that "she can go **** herself.

A point of protests is to persuade people of the rightness of your "cause:" to gain support for change. Your attitude and that of "the man bun guy" work against you.
 
Michael Cole said:
Yep, but what's hilarious is thinking Trump has a "strong personality."

Trump is the epitome of a weak man.
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yes, he's loud and obnoxious and narcissistic, i guess that's consider "strong" here?

but even without that question, a "strong" personality is only good if the person is mature, intelligent, and competent.
none of which describe trump.

but people like him just want a "manly man" there, no matter how terrible he is I guesss.
 
RetiredAtLast said:
No, it isn't. The oath reads,
"I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States."

To preserve, protect and defend the Constitution requires enforcing the laws of the country that are passed under that Constitution. Trump enforces those laws, even if Democrats don't like it, with our immigration laws being a major focus today.

The single arbiter of what's legal under our Constitution, is the Supreme Court. Trump does what he believes is necessary to enforce those laws. Others react in one of two ways. They either rant, piss and moan because he doesn't cave in to what they want him to do, or they sue. Suing brings the dispute where it belongs so that the Constitutionality of the action or the law is confirmed or, if not confirmed, serves as a guide to the Legislative and Administrative branches to revise the law.

IOW, testing a law or an action doesn't violate the oath. By clarifying the law, it strengthens the Constitution.
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Trump doesn't give a flying **** about the law; witness the dozens of lawsuits against him which he lost, his well-documented criminality, fraud, theft and race discrimination cases. That ignorant moron is a dangerous liability for America and anywhere else he infects, and the sooner he's voted out of office the better it will be for all concerned. If you believe he gives a damn about you, your fellow citizens or America in general-beyond what he can stiff you for, for his personal gain-you are being impossibly naive.

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Airyaman said:
Stephen Miller took over again.
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Trump also have to balance the interests of different donors. That a likely solution is continued raids but not against corporations that give big donations to Trump.



"As Donald Trump’s immigration crackdown intensifies, some of his closest allies in the private sector stand to profit from ICE raids. The US government is holding more than 48,000 people in immigration detention, with Trump’s border czar, Tom Homan, saying he intends to double that figure.

Facilities run by ICE (Immigrations and Customs Enforcement) are already well beyond capacity. More than 90% of those detained are locked up in private, for-profit prisons run by two companies, GEO Group and CoreCivic, which donated millions to Trump’s reelection campaign. Internal communications from GEO identify the administration’s aggressive border policy as a key source of potential revenue growth this year.

“We stand ready to provide additional services and resources to help ICE meet its future needs,” GEO chairman George Zoley said on a corporate earnings call last autumn, a transcript of which was released by the Securities and Exchange Commission.

Later on the call, chief executive Brian Evans estimated that GEO could generate up to $400m (£295m) in revenues if ICE were to fill its thousands of empty beds. The average cost of detaining an individual migrant in a private facility ranges from $236 to $481 a day, according to data analysis by the American Immigration Council.

On his first day in office, Trump signed an executive order reversing his predecessor’s decision to cancel all Department of Justice contracts with private prison firms."

observer.co.uk

Trump’s private prison donors to gain from jailing migrants

Two companies are thriving thanks to the surge in arrests of suspected illegal immigrants
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lynnwinslow said:
Is everyone who defended Trump in this thread enjoying their TACO?
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I just read he taco’d the taco and not he’s all in on full enforcement again. Appears he ran into someone else with a different opinion again. Whiplash! How great is that for our economic stability?

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Trump officials reverse guidance exempting farms, hotels from immigration raids

The Department of Homeland Security on Monday told staff that it was reversing guidance issued last week that agents were not to conduct immigration raids at farms, hotels and restaurants - a decision that stood at odds with President Donald Trump’s calls for mass deportations of anyone without...
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Jetboogieman said:
So then you're not a "NATION OF LAWS!!!! THESE PEOPLE ARE HERE ILLEGALLY!!!!!! THEY BROKE THE LAW!!!! GET THEM OUT!!!! RAR!!!!!" when it's inconvenient.

I thought removing all these people would make those jobs more lucrative and more numerous for Americans?

That slave labor was a bad thing?

Whats going on guys?
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Brain damage due to multiple whiplashes?
 
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