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Trump promises 'wild' protest in Washington DC on Jan. 6, claims it's 'impossible' he lost

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President Trump on Saturday promised a "wild" protest in Washington, D.C., on Jan. 6, as he continued to deny that he lost the election.

"Statistically impossible to have lost the 2020 Election," he tweeted. "Big protest in D.C. on January 6th. Be there, will be wild!"


Reading the article title, there was one word that stood out - 'protest'. Yes, the President of the United States, the most powerful man in the world, is reduced to using 'protest' in an effort to enact his will in the matter of his (lost) election. He has no electoral remedy. He has no legal remedy. He has no political remedy.

'Protest', by it's nature, implies a lack of power - subordination, if you will. It's what a powerless party does, when in grievance with its subjugation to the party in power. And that's why it caught me attention.

For four years, we've grown accustomed to Trump's unabridged, omnipresent power, including his power over us. But now, he is reduced to 'protest' - protesting in the face of being subject to the power of our Constitution and our democratic institutions. And if that isn't proof he is no longer to be President, I don't know what is?

From the power of the Presidency, to a power-less protestor. I can't think of a more fitting display.
 
Poor bastard is trying to draw a big adoring crowd that will holler and applaud when he drives by in his bulletproof limo, waving from the backseat like Miss Peach Blossom. He is going to miss that so much. I wonder if the biggest problem we have from him after the 20th is going to be attention whoring.
 

Reading the article title, there was one word that stood out - 'protest'. Yes, the President of the United States, the most powerful man in the world, is reduced to using 'protest' in an effort to enact his will in the matter of his (lost) election. He has no electoral remedy. He has no legal remedy. He has no political remedy.

'Protest', by it's nature, implies a lack of power - subordination, if you will. It's what a powerless party does, when in grievance with its subjugation to the party in power. And that's why it caught me attention.

For four years, we've grown accustomed to Trump's unabridged, omnipresent power, including his power over us. But now, he is reduced to 'protest' - protesting in the face of being subject to the power of our Constitution and our democratic institutions. And if that isn't proof he is no longer to be President, I don't know what is?

From the power of the Presidency, to a power-less protestor. I can't think of a more fitting display.
Trump is powerless for once. There is no trick McConnell or Barr can play to prop him up any longer. It's over.

In the past if he didn't want to be investigated, he can have the investigator fired. If he didn't like a court ruling, he'd just by pass and ignore it. If Congress wouldn't give him money, he'd steal it from other funds.

Impeachment? He laughed it off. He knew his fail safe was the Republican Senators loyal to him. With them, he had a license to literally kill if he wanted.

Now he is powerless and like Nixon he's losing what marbles he has left. His followers can only cry as final moments approach, and all he can do is what he's always done: rage.
 

Reading the article title, there was one word that stood out - 'protest'. Yes, the President of the United States, the most powerful man in the world, is reduced to using 'protest' in an effort to enact his will in the matter of his (lost) election. He has no electoral remedy. He has no legal remedy. He has no political remedy.

'Protest', by it's nature, implies a lack of power - subordination, if you will. It's what a powerless party does, when in grievance with its subjugation to the party in power. And that's why it caught me attention.

For four years, we've grown accustomed to Trump's unabridged, omnipresent power, including his power over us. But now, he is reduced to 'protest' - protesting in the face of being subject to the power of our Constitution and our democratic institutions. And if that isn't proof he is no longer to be President, I don't know what is?

From the power of the Presidency, to a power-less protestor. I can't think of a more fitting display.

I think I am done for a little while.
Trump is now actively inciting civil war, and I am getting so angry that I'll probably say something that earns me a knock on my door, or a ban on this forum.

I'll say this much.
I WANT the civil war now.
I used to think it was the worst thing imaginable but at this point, I feel we are out of options, and I am also convinced that it's only a question of time before they force our hand anyway.
I want it. Git er done.
 
Poor bastard is trying to draw a big adoring crowd that will holler and applaud when he drives by in his bulletproof limo, waving from the backseat like Miss Peach Blossom. He is going to miss that so much. I wonder if the biggest problem we have from him after the 20th is going to be attention whoring.
I'm hoping so.

As to his so-called 'million' protest, we shall see. His supporters' recent D.C. 'rally' after the election, drew around 10K, maybe 15K. The 2017 'Million Women' march in response to his election, drew half million in D.C., and 3-5M nationally, plus many more around the world.

I think Trump's 'million march' will be true to his track-record & nature, and probably be chump change.
 
Trump is powerless for once. There is no trick McConnell or Barr can play to prop him up any longer. It's over.

In the past if he didn't want to be investigated, he can have the investigator fired. If he didn't like a court ruling, he'd just by pass and ignore it. If Congress wouldn't give him money, he'd steal it from other funds.

Impeachment? He laughed it off. He knew his fail safe was the Republican Senators loyal to him. With them, he had a license to literally kill if he wanted.

Now he is powerless and like Nixon he's losing what marbles he has left. His followers can only cry as final moments approach, and all he can do is what he's always done: rage.
Yep. My thoughts, as well! (y)

What will make this the funkiest for him, is he has had a taste of absolute power. He was the most powerful man in the world! Even above the rule of law! Think about that?

Just imagine not just when he is constrained by the rule of law & civil proceeding, but if he were to lose his freedom?

And remember, he was born into power. The power of affluence & lawyers & accountants. From his earliest days, he knew nothing else. He always skated. But not now. And in front of every eye in the world. Couldn't happen to a more deserving guy!
 

Reading the article title, there was one word that stood out - 'protest'. Yes, the President of the United States, the most powerful man in the world, is reduced to using 'protest' in an effort to enact his will in the matter of his (lost) election. He has no electoral remedy. He has no legal remedy. He has no political remedy.

'Protest', by it's nature, implies a lack of power - subordination, if you will. It's what a powerless party does, when in grievance with its subjugation to the party in power. And that's why it caught me attention.

For four years, we've grown accustomed to Trump's unabridged, omnipresent power, including his power over us. But now, he is reduced to 'protest' - protesting in the face of being subject to the power of our Constitution and our democratic institutions. And if that isn't proof he is no longer to be President, I don't know what is?

From the power of the Presidency, to a power-less protestor. I can't think of a more fitting display.

Well, I'll just take "wild" to mean an event filled with all sorts of men in yellow skirts and skeleton masks doing keg stands and chanting "USA! USA!" and "STOP THE STEAL!" or whatever slogan they'll be given to parrot. Hopefully other groups won't be bothered to show up and protest, making this latest MAGA event uneventful.

McConnell's comment to Senate Republicans to not contest the election results on the 6th of January is the nail in the coffin for any additional action in my opinion. That was the signal from the GOP that the Trump ship is sinking, and to let it continue making its way to the bottom.
 
Well, I'll just take "wild" to mean an event filled with all sorts of men in yellow skirts and skeleton masks doing keg stands and chanting "USA! USA!" and "STOP THE STEAL!" or whatever slogan they'll be given to parrot. Hopefully other groups won't be bothered to show up and protest, making this latest MAGA event uneventful.

McConnell's comment to Senate Republicans to not contest the election results on the 6th of January is the nail in the coffin for any additional action in my opinion. That was the signal from the GOP that the Trump ship is sinking, and to let it continue making its way to the bottom.
Yep. if that wasn't an imprimatur, I don't know what is!
 

Reading the article title, there was one word that stood out - 'protest'. Yes, the President of the United States, the most powerful man in the world, is reduced to using 'protest' in an effort to enact his will in the matter of his (lost) election. He has no electoral remedy. He has no legal remedy. He has no political remedy.

'Protest', by it's nature, implies a lack of power - subordination, if you will. It's what a powerless party does, when in grievance with its subjugation to the party in power. And that's why it caught me attention.

For four years, we've grown accustomed to Trump's unabridged, omnipresent power, including his power over us. But now, he is reduced to 'protest' - protesting in the face of being subject to the power of our Constitution and our democratic institutions. And if that isn't proof he is no longer to be President, I don't know what is?

From the power of the Presidency, to a power-less protestor. I can't think of a more fitting display.

It is kind of ironic that he is utilizing protests, of which he has avidly undermined throughout the year, to desperately try and prove an invalid and illogical point.

You are correct though, what a way to go out. From hero (well at least he thought he was) to zero.
 

Reading the article title, there was one word that stood out - 'protest'. Yes, the President of the United States, the most powerful man in the world, is reduced to using 'protest' in an effort to enact his will in the matter of his (lost) election. He has no electoral remedy. He has no legal remedy. He has no political remedy.

'Protest', by it's nature, implies a lack of power - subordination, if you will. It's what a powerless party does, when in grievance with its subjugation to the party in power. And that's why it caught me attention.

For four years, we've grown accustomed to Trump's unabridged, omnipresent power, including his power over us. But now, he is reduced to 'protest' - protesting in the face of being subject to the power of our Constitution and our democratic institutions. And if that isn't proof he is no longer to be President, I don't know what is?

From the power of the Presidency, to a power-less protestor. I can't think of a more fitting display.

I really wished that the man would just STFU and quietly make room for the next clown show to take over.
 
It is kind of ironic that he is utilizing protests, of which he has avidly undermined throughout the year, to desperately try and prove an invalid and illogical point.

You are correct though, what a way to go out. From hero (well at least he thought he was) to zero.
Well said.

Trump will of course, remain a force within the Republican Party. But he will only have efficacy in our greater governance bounded by that of the Republican Party. That Republican Party influence is now so reduced it can only act as an obstructive force - not a proactive force. That an absolutely huge reduction in influence, now bound by the Republicans (and by extension Trump) acting solely on defense.

I predicate my previous paragraph & opinion based upon McConnell remaining Senate Majority Leader. But that is not fait accompli. McConnell has the possibility to be tossed-out, making Trump's even more irrelevant. And then, even if McConnel remains, there's no guarantee Trump will retain his current influence within the Republican Party. In fact, I'm looking for it to wain, though to what degree I can't ascertain.
 
I really wished that the man would just STFU and quietly make room for the next clown show to take over.
After this loss, and his ugly & failed exit, I'm beginning to think Trump may not have the ability to recapture the White House in 2024. So yeah, he may become an albatross around the GOP necks. Not strong enough to seal victory, but not weak enough for the GOP to ignore. In fact, we may be seeing this effect in the Georgia Senate races. If the Dems manage to flip those seats, I think you'll have Trump to blame. To be honest, I believe Trump's hyperbolic nonsense about not mail voting, may have sealed his own fate by suppressing his own vote! As close as the key races were, it wouldn't take much suppression!
 
I really wished that the man would just STFU and quietly make room for the next clown show to take over.
He would have needed to start therapy decades ago for that to have a chance of happening.
 
I still think Trump is at his most dangerous place in the chaos that has been the first term. If enough supporters show and get ginned up, no telling what the result....
 
Well said.

Trump will of course, remain a force within the Republican Party. But he will only have efficacy in our greater governance bounded by that of the Republican Party. That Republican Party influence is now so reduced it can only act as an obstructive force - not a proactive force. That an absolutely huge reduction in influence, now bound by the Republicans (and by extension Trump) acting solely on defense.

I predicate my previous paragraph & opinion based upon McConnell remaining Senate Majority Leader. But that is not fait accompli. McConnell has the possibility to be tossed-out, making Trump's even more irrelevant. And then, even if McConnel remains, there's no guarantee Trump will retain his current influence within the Republican Party. In fact, I'm looking for it to wain, though to what degree I can't ascertain.
I dunno; Trump may well, as you say, remain a 'force' within the Republican loyalists in the Senate, but I predict many more will be jumping ship come January 20. It wouldn't surprise me if Trump were to envisage his own Trump party.
 
No way is Trump powerless. He has plenty of support from the Trump Cult to do plenty of destruction, which is the Trump way, and the Trumplican politician support afraid they would be primaried by the Cult if they don’t do the bidding of Trump.

Trump will keep doing worse and worse against democracy and America and save the worst for the end, when his mob is at the point of peak frenzy and most likely to then do the worst as He asks of them. Just wait, and not for long. After Trump fails, as is His nature, He’ll keep at it in some way, shape or form.
 
No way is Trump powerless. He has plenty of support from the Trump Cult to do plenty of destruction, which is the Trump way, and the Trumplican politician support afraid they would be primaried by the Cult if they don’t do the bidding of Trump.

Trump will keep doing worse and worse against democracy and America and save the worst for the end, when his mob is at the point of peak frenzy and most likely to then do the worst as He asks of them. Just wait, and not for long. After Trump fails, as is His nature, He’ll keep at it in some way, shape or form.
Except that as a former 'president' he will no longer be immune from the law, just as you and I are not. If he breaks the law-and he will if precedent is an indicator-it'll be all over him like white on rice.
 
Well said.

Trump will of course, remain a force within the Republican Party. But he will only have efficacy in our greater governance bounded by that of the Republican Party. That Republican Party influence is now so reduced it can only act as an obstructive force - not a proactive force. That an absolutely huge reduction in influence, now bound by the Republicans (and by extension Trump) acting solely on defense.

I predicate my previous paragraph & opinion based upon McConnell remaining Senate Majority Leader. But that is not fait accompli. McConnell has the possibility to be tossed-out, making Trump's even more irrelevant. And then, even if McConnel remains, there's no guarantee Trump will retain his current influence within the Republican Party. In fact, I'm looking for it to wain, though to what degree I can't ascertain.

I do wonder about this over the long term. Given the short attention span people have nowadays, it's going to take quite a bit of effort to stay in the political limelight. The question then is how does his effort materializes; there's only so much political ankle biting he can do before it gets old.
 

Reading the article title, there was one word that stood out - 'protest'. Yes, the President of the United States, the most powerful man in the world, is reduced to using 'protest' in an effort to enact his will in the matter of his (lost) election. He has no electoral remedy. He has no legal remedy. He has no political remedy.

'Protest', by it's nature, implies a lack of power - subordination, if you will. It's what a powerless party does, when in grievance with its subjugation to the party in power. And that's why it caught me attention.

For four years, we've grown accustomed to Trump's unabridged, omnipresent power, including his power over us. But now, he is reduced to 'protest' - protesting in the face of being subject to the power of our Constitution and our democratic institutions. And if that isn't proof he is no longer to be President, I don't know what is?

From the power of the Presidency, to a power-less protestor. I can't think of a more fitting display.
I do not fear the protests, I was counting on them. The word that caught my attention was "wild" I believe he is using that word is meant to mean violence, but is a way to cover himself. He should be made to explain the remark. For a sitting President to call for violence in our Capital means we may be at a point where he may need to be removed before Jan 20, along with Pence, follow the chain of command, then install the lawful President on the 20th.
 
Well said.

Trump will of course, remain a force within the Republican Party. But he will only have efficacy in our greater governance bounded by that of the Republican Party. That Republican Party influence is now so reduced it can only act as an obstructive force - not a proactive force. That an absolutely huge reduction in influence, now bound by the Republicans (and by extension Trump) acting solely on defense.

I predicate my previous paragraph & opinion based upon McConnell remaining Senate Majority Leader. But that is not fait accompli. McConnell has the possibility to be tossed-out, making Trump's even more irrelevant. And then, even if McConnel remains, there's no guarantee Trump will retain his current influence within the Republican Party. In fact, I'm looking for it to wain, though to what degree I can't ascertain.
I have to agree that Trump's influence will eventually wane. I mean, constantly carry water for Trump and having to justify everything he says has to be exhausting for Republican politicians. I'm sure they want to get away from that as quickly as possible.
 
The word “wild” stood out to me.....


18 USC 2383

”Whoever incites, sets on foot, assists, or engages in any rebellion or insurrection against the authority of the United States or the laws thereof, or gives aid or comfort thereto, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.”
 
If Obama had said such a thing in 2016.
 
I do wonder about this over the long term. Given the short attention span people have nowadays, it's going to take quite a bit of effort to stay in the political limelight. The question then is how does his effort materializes; there's only so much political ankle biting he can do before it gets old.
His influence will obviously wain, to some degree. How much, we don't know. But regardless, the GOP are stuck with him. I don't think he can attain the White House again. And if he remains dominate in the party, he will lead them to ruination.
 
I do not fear the protests, I was counting on them. The word that caught my attention was "wild" I believe he is using that word is meant to mean violence, but is a way to cover himself. He should be made to explain the remark. For a sitting President to call for violence in our Capital means we may be at a point where he may need to be removed before Jan 20, along with Pence, follow the chain of command, then install the lawful President on the 20th.
Of course he implied violence. But with D.C. not being a carry jurisdiction, it's going to be interesting to see what these so-called 'militias' expect to do? Threatening glares? Like everything Trump, I suspect we are seeing tons of hyperbole. Hyperbole, to the point of fantasy.
 
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