Originally Posted by beerftw View Post
Let me just sum it up, america is not ceding syria to assad/russia/iran, it was already theirs and has been for decades, what america did was try and take it from them but when it came down to a tug of war found none of them would roll over and give up.
To make this worse israel is siding more with russia on this than with america, as russia brought stability their and even though they can not control iran they have far more sway, and russia has not objected to israel handling their defense albiet restricted after the russian turbo propr was shot down, meaning they must clear it well ahead of time with russia. Now there is iran, long time ally of syria, who has no plans of letting their ally fall. Now add russia who has had troops there since the 70's, they too will not just let someone take their ally.
Now it gets more confusing, iraq is supposed to be on americas side, but has sided with iran and syria on fighting isis, then there is turkey who has done nearly nothing against isis and wants assad gone but has ceded to assad staying over groups like the ypg and pkk, the former the us backs while the latter is not. This creates a massive fiasco where there is no win for the us, it is like a five way tug of war that if fought to the end would still be raging until there era of your great grandchildren, there is a time when it must be realized there is no winning this war, it is either just leaving or to stay forever, as all foreign involvment outside the country itself and it's firect alies will lead to never ending conflict.
Best post by a socialist this year, spot on analysis!
Or just the mil-to-mil relations?
