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Trump opposed deporting illegals in 2012

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Trump in 2012: 'I don't believe" in deporting many undocumented immigrants - CNNPolitics.com

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Again I say that downscale blue-collars who have to compete with Mexicans are downscale for a reason - they're gullible as Hell.
 
Fletch said:
And you think attacking the democratic base is a good strategy at this point?
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1932 was eighty-four years ago. Those people are the Republicans base now.
 
It is fascinating seeing Working Class Republicans complain about and blame all their troubles on the 'elite', but then throw their support behind a billionaire who has stepped on the working man his whole business life and who craps in gold plated toilets. They are looking to slap down the elite by supporting someone who is elite to the nth degree.

As Mr. Spock would say: Fascinating.
 
Einzige said:
1932 was eighty-four years ago. Those people are the Republicans base now.
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First of all, the blue collar union vote is still fairly solidly democrat. Second, it is good of you to expose how you really feel about this group.
 
Their conception of "the elite" is a purely cultural construct. For the deluded Trumpist, the local news anchor who draws an upper-middle-class salary is a member of the elite, while a pretended billionaire like Trump is just like you and me. Their world view is completely divorced from any rational analysis of society.

Fletch said:
First of all, the blue collar union vote is still fairly solidly democrat. Second, it is good of you to expose how you really feel about this group.
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'Expose'? I've never hidden my views about the group. They're pure dead weight, an anchor around the neck of the Democratic Party. Where you couldn't avoid pandering to them in 1976, today you can directly bypass them and their interests.

I'm a part of this class, mind - I live in a trailer. And I hold it in contempt. My street is lined with meth houses displaying Confederate flags.
 
Einzige said:
Their conception of "the elite" is a purely cultural construct. For the deluded Trumpist, the local news anchor who draws an upper-middle-class salary is a member of the elite, while a pretended billionaire like Trump is just like you and me. Their world view is completely divorced from any rational analysis of society.



'Expose'? I've never hidden my views about the group. They're pure dead weight, an anchor around the neck of the Democratic Party. Where you couldn't avoid pandering to them in 1976, today you can directly bypass them and their interests.

I'm a part of this class, mind - I live in a trailer. And I hold it in contempt. My street is lined with meth houses displaying Confederate flags.
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Keep talking, youre doing great. How do you feel about blacks?
 
Fletch said:
Keep talking, youre doing great. How do you feel about blacks?
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Quite a bit better than I do about the white underclass (my skinhead stepfather, say, who takes his Vicodin before he goes to sleep every night). If the trailer trash I'm surrounded by hates them, then by default they are friends of mine.

You seem to imagine I'm some city-slicker latte liberal guffawing at the rubes. I'm not. I'm a rube guffawing at the rubes.
 
Fletch said:
Keep talking, youre doing great. How do you feel about blacks?
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I'm fine, if I don't have to pay for them and none of them shoots me. Same as I feel about Whites, I guess.
 
Einzige said:
Quite a bit better than I do about the white underclass (my skinhead stepfather, say, who takes his Vicodin before he goes to sleep every night). If the trailer trash I'm surrounded by hates them, then by default they are friends of mine.
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Move into a black neighborhood. I would be fascinated by your take.

You seem to imagine I'm some city-slicker latte liberal guffawing at the rubes. I'm not. I'm a rube guffawing at the rubes.
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Not at all. I believe you when you say you are a rube. Its important to be self aware.
 
Now that that's cleared up, it's my turn to direct the conversation: how moronic - or high on meth - do you have to be to think a New York 'billionaire' shares your value-set? Or that a real estate mogul who used illegal immigrants in the construction of his buildings wants to deport illegals? Or that the scion of a three-generation family fortune hates Wall Street?

It's the same stupidity that preserves Christianity in the modern era. These people are ****ing idiots.
 
Fletch said:
First of all, the blue collar union vote is still fairly solidly democrat. Second, it is good of you to expose how you really feel about this group.
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This is an interesting topic. I think that vote is actually moving more right. Trump is just playing a role now of one that is one of them and pinpointing who the enemy is.
 
At some point I think we'll see the emergence of a countervailing voice among the 'white trash' vote - those who, like me, come out from among it and hold it in contempt. Think of us as the white version of the Uncle Tom (Sowell).
 
SenorXm/Sirius said:
It is fascinating seeing Working Class Republicans complain about and blame all their troubles on the 'elite', but then throw their support behind a billionaire who has stepped on the working man his whole business life and who craps in gold plated toilets. They are looking to slap down the elite by supporting someone who is elite to the nth degree.

As Mr. Spock would say: Fascinating.
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Indeed, only a moron would think Hillary and Trump are from a different social class.
 
americanwoman said:
This is an interesting topic. I think that vote is actually moving more right. Trump is just playing a role now of one that is one of them and pinpointing who the enemy is.
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Not who, but what the enemy is.
 
SenorXm/Sirius said:
It is fascinating seeing Working Class Republicans complain about and blame all their troubles on the 'elite', but then throw their support behind a billionaire who has stepped on the working man his whole business life and who craps in gold plated toilets. They are looking to slap down the elite by supporting someone who is elite to the nth degree.

As Mr. Spock would say: Fascinating.
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Nobody buys these hyperbolic memes better than liberal/socialist progressives.

A mountain of proof has been provided that Hillary Clinton is at the top of the heap when it comes to stepping on everyday Americans, yet a business man who has created 10's of thousands of jobs is somehow worse.

To your post, Spock would say: That's illogical.
 
OrphanSlug said:
What this illustrates more than anything, is Trump will say whatever is necessary to secure the support of a targeted demographic.
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So will pretty much every politician, ever hear Hillary's southern accent or Biden's black enunciation
 
Crovax said:
So will pretty much every politician, ever hear Hillary's southern accent or Biden's black enunciation
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But wasn't Trump's appeal that he was an Outsider, not really a Politician at all, and so immunized from pandering? I thought Trump always Spoke His Mind?
 
americanwoman said:
What do you think is the enemy to blue collar workers?
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Taxes, and social programs that they make just enough money to never qualify for as well as a rising minimum wage which sucks all the money that would have gone to them.
 
Einzige said:
But wasn't Trump's appeal that he was an Outsider, not really a Politician at all, and so immunized from pandering? I thought Trump always Spoke His Mind?
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I have no clue what trump's appeal is no one can tell me why they are voting for him other than hes not Hillary
 
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