Trump Launches War On Iran

[ASHES]

The seething hatred the West has towards Muslims and willingness to mass murder innocent civilians on the basis on lies indeed long predates seventy five years ago, yes.

Just came outta nowhere, this hatred for Muslims, right? Wasn't multiple invasions into Europe from both ends or anything, well before any of the dreaded European colonialism you object to so vociferously. Of course not. Just Islamophobia.

 

[BirdinHand]

Where are the locations of the rare earth minerals that have been discovered in Iran in the past several years?

In comparison to where we have bombed and where Israel is bombing?

Could Iran’s Extremely Rare Mineral Discovery Be Another Incentive for US-Israel War?

Iran’s long hunt for one of key mineral for most rare minerals in the world finally paid off, only 2 months before Israel’s attack on Tehran.

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Iran-US Talks: The Rare Earths Elephant in the Room

While official narratives surrounding the ongoing Iran-US negotiations emphasize nuclear de-escalation and regional stability—particularly regarding Israel—there’s an unspoken but potentially more powerful driver behind the scenes: rare earth elements. For...

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[JMB1911A1]

Sounds like the US should have left Iraq like the Iraqis have demanded....multiple times over...instead of continuing to occupy the country.

We are in Iraq at the request of their government. Sorry to burst your bubble.

America threw another tantrum over the Palestinians continuing to resist the “Jewish state”’s mass murder campaign, and attacked Iran in hopes of breaking their will to fight.

You are a riot. The only mass murder was the Al-Aqsa Flood on Oct 7.

 

[Ikari]

There's no way to confirm that, but the fact is they don't have the facilities or equipment to make one NOW.

That you know of, and Russia is saying they can be supplied nukes.

Trump may have escalated this to the next level, we'll have to see the fallout.

 

[The Brad Dad]

There's no way to confirm that, but the fact is they don't have the facilities or equipment to make one NOW.

Oh we did confirm it. And today DUI appointee Hegsmith purposely avoided saying they had a nuke. Also: your statement is the one we haven’t confirmed yet.

 

[Chomsky]

Or how about the fact that Trump only briefed MAGA congressmen?

Yeah. There's some really bad stuff going-on. Really bad.

 

[Tigerace117]

Just came outta nowhere, this hatred for Muslims, right? Wasn't multiple invasions into Europe from both ends or anything, well before any of the dreaded European colonialism you object to so vociferously. Of course not. Just Islamophobia.

It wasn’t Muslims who sacked Constantinople in 1204, grievously wounding the Byzantine Empire and ensuring its eventual collapse.

And given Christianity made a serious attempt at global conquest via the various colonial empires of Europe, the hysterics are even more pathetic.

But I get the “Jewish state” is desperate to stoke hatred of Muslims to excuse and defend its mass murder of Palestinian civilians.

 

[Hello My Son]

Exactly. We've been hearing this from Netanyahu for a great many tears.

Just as we heard the same about Saddam's chemical weapons that were non-existent.

We attacked Iraq, to find they had no chemical weapons. Now we attacked a supposed nuclear weapons site in Iran, to find no nuclear dust in the aftermath.

Not to hijack the thread, but I was fervently against the Iraq War from the beginning. Afghanistan made sense to me after 9/11, but Iraq never did, and I was a staunch Democrat in that era (when the party was still sanely moderate), but that was the beginning of the cracks developing for me due to the massive support for invading Iraq.

And, while my general opinion about the invasion hasn't changed, I do have a friend who served like 6 tours of duty over there--a career military guy. He's extremely traumatized but does okay now trying to lead a low-key family life. Being a psychologist, and probably the only one he personally knows because we're from a very small town, he opened up to me in about 2009-2010 while home on leave. He told me very directly that they had found many stashes of chemical weapons but that the US government was covering it up because at that point, the entire mission had shifted away from Saddam, who was long gone, and over to the generalized War on Terror targeting the entire region. He firmly insisted that it wasn't a rumor and that he himself was already suffering health issues from direct exposure to these chemical weapons on multiple occasions.

Being a friend, I was of course supportive with my words but in my mind, due to his obvious trauma from being away at war for the past several years, and his insistence that there was a conspiratorial cover-up, I had a lot of doubts and was worried that it was the PTSD talking. I wondered how long it would be before he completely cracked into a full-blown paranoid and psychotic episode.

Then, a few years later, this exposé came out from the NYT: https://www.nytimes.com/interactive...t/us-casualties-of-iraq-chemical-weapons.html

Turns out he was telling the truth. I won't discuss further within this thread just for the sake of staying on topic, but I thought some people would be interested in this.

 

[ASHES]

It wasn’t Muslims who sacked Constantinople in 1204, grievously wounding the Byzantine Empire and ensuring its eventual collapse.

And given Christianity made a serious attempt at global conquest via the various colonial empires of Europe, the hysterics are even more pathetic.

But I get the “Jewish state” is desperate to stoke hatred of Muslims to excuse and defend its mass murder of Palestinian civilians.

An ally of the Islamic subjugation if the world, cool. PS, what happens to the Jews when they are successful?

 

[Tigerace117]

We are in Iraq at the request of their government. Sorry to burst your bubble.


You are a riot. The only mass murder was the Al-Aqsa Flood on Oct 7.

The Iraqis have repeatedly demanded the US leave. America has promptly ignored every single demand.

Israel has murdered well over ten times as many civilians as died on October 7th. Wailing about “October 7th” is about as meaningful as the Nazis blithering about the Spartacists.

 

[Napoleon]

Just came outta nowhere, this hatred for Muslims, right? Wasn't multiple invasions into Europe from both ends or anything, well before any of the dreaded European colonialism you object to so vociferously. Of course not. Just Islamophobia.

You’re talking to a hippie who believes world peace forever would happen if white people suddenly dematerialized and he burns enough patchouli.

 

[Hello My Son]

The US claimes apartheid is “part of the free world”.

No amount of whining can change that fact.

Link?

 

[Lursa]

@Lursa

Your liberal posts are unable to respond and to support your liberal negativity against the USA military. Which is proof conclusive your liberal's anti-military posts are vacuous and are simply a liberal's hate and contempt toward the US armed forces.

Your hard core anti military posts do nothing to check MAGAs and Trump. Your posts are a white flag to Trump and MAGAs against the armed forces. Your posts work to undermine the standing, credibility and loyalty of the armed forces with the American people. It's the armed forces who are faithful to the Constitution, not Trump and not your posts.

Your posts are fantasy gibberish. Mine has been laid out coherently to others...and to you in a past thread.

 

[JMB1911A1]

Just came outta nowhere, this hatred for Muslims, right? Wasn't multiple invasions into Europe from both ends or anything, well before any of the dreaded European colonialism you object to so vociferously. Of course not. Just Islamophobia.

I don’t think he has ever heard of the Battle of Tours/Poitiers. 500 years before Constantinople.

 

[CLAX1911]

The conspiracy theory is that they have nuclear weapons

I would agree with that. I don't think they had a nuclear weapon I think they were going to though. The sites that were bombed were uranium enrichment sites and the goal of those is to make nuclear weapons.

It would be Foley to wait for them to have one before you try and stop them from making one.

 

[Tigerace117]

An ally of the Islamic subjugation if the world, cool. PS, what happens to the Jews when they are successful?

“Islamic subjugation of the world”

There isn’t even one definite version of Islam in the Middle East alone. The idea that there’s some “Muslim plot to take over the world” is hilariously absurd.

Sounds like Israel should stop trying to steal other people’s land, though.

 

[Chomsky]

You can't afford it. Your posts are both oblivious and wrong.

Trump and His MAGAs will never allow a free and fair election again. They tolerate no opposition of any kind. Your post is a lot of words that say nothing that addresses the reality of my posts about the '26 midterm voting and any voting after that. Kaput.

Let's see how '26 goes, before we start panicking.

Election losses have a way of bringing the losing party closer in line with the wishes of the American People, even if only for self-preservation.

 

[Tigerace117]

I don’t think he has ever heard of the Battle of Tours/Poitiers.

Given the fact the Ummyad Caliphate has been gone for well over a thousand years , the idea the Battle of Tours has any relevance other than as a historical footnote is laughable

 

[Hello My Son]

Aerial surveillance photos of Fordow after the attack has a few details I find interesting.

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First is the attack pattern. It would appear they used 3 bombs per targeted sight . In the photo you can see two clusters of 3 penetration holes (red circles).

I matched those to older photos and it appears that the triangular grouping on the top targeted an area with a small access door, and the damage to that area seams to have unearthed a lot of support structure.

Second, I find it pretty interesting that none of the strikes by the US or Israel have targeted the big rectangular bunker.

Third is the yellow circle which shows what appears to be a rather large depression where a hill used to be. I would guess this is the biggest sign of a successful strike since it indicates a collapse of the underground bunker.

For those interested, here is the old photo for comparison:

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It's amazing how precise our subterranean weaponry has become.

 

[JMB1911A1]

The Iraqis have repeatedly demanded the US leave. America has promptly ignored every single demand.

Pro-Iran groups have demanded the U.S. leave. The Iraqi government has not. Sorry to disappoint you.

Israel has murdered well over ten times as many civilians as died on October 7th. Wailing about “October 7th” is about as meaningful as the Nazis blithering about the Spartacists.

Civilians have died in a war that Hamas (the government of Gaza) started. FAFO.

 

[ASHES]

“Islamic subjugation of the world”

There isn’t even one definite version of Islam in the Middle East alone. The idea that there’s some “Muslim plot to take over the world” is hilariously absurd.

Sounds like Israel should stop trying to steal other people’s land, though.

What is happening in Africa right now? Do you know? Is the violence and death visited upon hundreds of thousands there by Islamic extremism also the fault of the US and Europe? You don't need to answer that one, it's a rhetorical question.

 

[JMB1911A1]

Given the fact the Ummyad Caliphate has been gone for well over a thousand years , the idea the Battle of Tours has any relevance other than as a historical footnote is laughable

Well, it happened 500 years before the Battle of Constantinople that you were talking about. And was Europe resisting Muslim aggression which goes against your narrative of poor Muslims.

 

[The Brad Dad]

Just came outta nowhere, this hatred for Muslims, right? Wasn't multiple invasions into Europe from both ends or anything, well before any of the dreaded European colonialism you object to so vociferously. Of course not. Just Islamophobia.

Gee, I wonder why they hate us.

 

[The Brad Dad]

What is happening in Africa right now? Do you know? Is the violence and death visited upon hundreds of thousands there by Islamic extremism also the fault of the US and Europe? You don't need to answer that one, it's a rhetorical question.

Christian extremism poses the biggest threat to Americans.

 

[Tigerace117]

What is happening in Africa right now? Do you know? Is the violence and death visited upon hundreds of thousands there by Islamic extremism also the fault of the US and Europe? You don't need to answer that one, it's a rhetorical question.

Gee, you are aware Africa is an immense continent with a lot of stuff going on— including Christian extremists continuing to carry out mass murder— right?

Hmm. Given the vast number of Muslims who’ve died fighting groups like Al-Shabab over the last few decades, your posturing remains utterly comical.