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Trump Launches War On Iran

Your insistence that we still fight the crusades just isn’t relevant. Recent history is 100% us wrecking their lives every chance we get. A little knowledge as usual is super dangerous.
I disagree. This is the same war that has been ongoing for centuries. If we didn't protect our interests, others would take them over. Every people group tries to expand, always, always leading to conflict. The choice to be made is do you fight for Western ideals, or Islamic ones. It's still Greece vs Persia.
 
Israel is not “we” and scientists working on the development of a nuclear weapon are not equivalent to the innocent civilians massacred on Oct 7.
Entire neighborhoods have been destroyed in Gaza on the argument that they’re supportive of Hamas. Those civilians served in the Israeli military. Thus they’re fair game. See how that works? And it is ‘we” with Israel. Our senior citizen president has made it clear Bibi was his co-pilot, he didn’t even inform Democrats. You know, the people American citizens elected to represent them.
 
Another lie. Which is all you have.

War is not murder. Hamas started the war. Did the Allies “murder” German civilians?

Wanted war criminal? The same court “indicted” the leaders of Hamas but you failed to mention that. Your prejudice is showing. Again.
Blind denial can’t change the demands for the US to leave.

Israel was murdering Palestinian civilians long before October 7th.

What settlements did the Allies set up on German land?

Oh really? So, by your own admission, Israel’s leaders are every bit as bad as Hamas.

Thanks for confirming that ;)
 
The Umayyad Caliphate’s capitol was Damascus.....so even further away from France than I thought.

Gee, I’m quite aware of the fact that many in Spain were not at all happy under the Visigoths, and welcomed new rulership.
Wow, your rationalization and love for Islamic militarism and conquest is finally coming fully into the light.
 
So, we just moved from the Civil War to the Klan? Are your goalpost motorized as well as being on wheels?
Wailing about “Islamic terrorism” while celebrating a regime which killed far more Americans is comical.
 
I disagree. This is the same war that has been ongoing for centuries. If we didn't protect our interests, others would take them over. Every people group tries to expand, always, always leading to conflict. The choice to be made is do you fight for Western ideals, or Islamic ones. It's still Greece vs Persia.
our interests were not in starting a new forever ME war over a WMD hoax. And your comment underlines what those of us have been arguing for years: Republicans just want to bomb Iran. There is no such thing as being anti war or seeking peace. Republicans have been bloodthirsty for Iran for decades. Well, now you own all of it. This isn’t the same landscape as 2003. You aren’t walking away from this one.
 
Entire neighborhoods have been destroyed in Gaza on the argument that they’re supportive of Hamas. Those civilians served in the Israeli military. Thus they’re fair game. See how that works? And it is ‘we” with Israel. Our senior citizen president has made it clear Bibi was his co-pilot, he didn’t even inform Democrats. You know, the people American citizens elected to represent them.
What does any of that nonsense have to do with the fact that the U.S. “slaughtered” zero people in this strike?
 
Wow, your rationalization and love for Islamic militarism and conquest is finally coming fully into the light.
“While this isolation is said to have been "a reasonably strong and effective instrument of government"; it was highly "centralised to the extent that the defeat of the royal army left the entire land open to the invaders". The resulting power vacuum, which may have indeed caught Tariq completely by surprise, would have aided the Muslim conquest. It may have been equally welcome to the Hispano-Roman peasants who were probably – as D.W. Lomax claims – disillusioned by the prominent legal, linguistic and social divide between them and the "barbaric" and "decadent" Visigoth royal family.”

“Scholars have emphasized that animosity against the Visigothic rule in some regions of the Visigothic Kingdom, including to a greater extent the deep disagreements and resentment involving the local Jewish communities and the ruling authorities, weakened the kingdom and played a pivotal role in the ultimate success of the Umayyad Conquest of Iberia.”


Nobody remains in control of an area for eight hundred years without the locals buying in, sorry ;)
 
our interests were not in starting a new forever ME war over a WMD hoax. And your comment underlines what those of us have been arguing for years: Republicans just want to bomb Iran. There is no such thing as being anti war or seeking peace. Republicans have been bloodthirsty for Iran for decades. Well, now you own all of it. This isn’t the same landscape as 2003. You aren’t walking away from this one.
I'm not a republican... I'm a liberal. I protested against the Iraq war. Not sure how I own anything for not wanting the Jewish people to be eradicated, which is a stated goal of Islam.
 
I'm not a republican... I'm a liberal. I protested against the Iraq war. Not sure how I own anything for not wanting the Jewish people to be eradicated, which is a stated goal of Islam.
Eradicating Jewish people is not a stated goal of Islam, and if you’re so passionate about protecting Israel, you should really go join their military instead of chanting “onward Christian soldier” with other folks kids.
 
Eradicating Jewish people is not a stated goal of Islam, and if you’re so passionate about protecting Israel, you should really go join their military instead of chanting “onward Christian soldier” with other folks kids.
The pen is mightier than the sword.
 
Thing is many MAGA types do not like facts. Reason I posted it
Facts with MAGA like bathing the Devil in Holy Water
May they head first into the water
 
I'm not a republican... I'm a liberal. I protested against the Iraq war. Not sure how I own anything for not wanting the Jewish people to be eradicated, which is a stated goal of Islam.
Oh really?

Then how do you explain Muslim states like Egypt making peace with Israel once Israeli settlers were expelled from their land?

The belief in “Muslim world conquest” is not even remotely a liberal one, btw.
 
Eradicating Jewish people is not a stated goal of Islam, and if you’re so passionate about protecting Israel, you should really go join their military instead of chanting “onward Christian soldier” with other folks kids.
Bullshit. The Quran calls for the killing of the Jews.

“The Hour will not begin until you fight the Jews, until a Jew will hide behind a rock or a tree, and the rock or tree will say: ‘O Muslim, O slave of Allah, here is a Jew behind me; come and kill him.”
 
Your nastiness appears to increase the more frustrated you become. Maybe demeaning Trump on a regular basis is keeping you from accessing the right information you need to understand complex global issues.

No this is my idle. In the end what you do with your ignorance on the topic is for you only.
Doesnt mean im not gonna point it out and state you are wrong.

Mr dance in the streets
 
They were actively targeting U.S. vessels. Totally different situation.

Trump is a thug. His supporters hate the Constitution. This is an illegal war.

Iran is a model world citizen.....for Russia and Terrorists.
We've always been under attack by Iran. Activly targeted by Iran. The Houthis are funded and weaponed by Iran. Ugly and uncomfortable but this is a good move taking Iran's nuke weapon program down a few pegs.
 
Bullshit. The Quran calls for the killing of the Jews.

“The Hour will not begin until you fight the Jews, until a Jew will hide behind a rock or a tree, and the rock or tree will say: ‘O Muslim, O slave of Allah, here is a Jew behind me; come and kill him.”
The Christians who want us to destroy Iran on behalf of Israel only want that because they expect Jesus to return, which means the Jews on the land of Israel get cast into hell because they don’t accept Jesus as their savior. None of this from either side is about the Jewish people, it’s about the land they’re standing on. The right hates Jews, and Islamic regimes have made Jews scapegoats.
 
Bullshit. The Quran calls for the killing of the Jews.

“The Hour will not begin until you fight the Jews, until a Jew will hide behind a rock or a tree, and the rock or tree will say: ‘O Muslim, O slave of Allah, here is a Jew behind me; come and kill him.”
The Crusades began with the systematic mass murder of every Jewish person the Crusaders could catch.
 
The Crusades began with the systematic mass murder of every Jewish person the Crusaders could catch.

lol saving Jewish people is not at the top of most Republicans lists when it comes to Israel. Prepping the land for the return of the big bad Jesus is all they care about.
 
Oh really?

Then how do you explain Muslim states like Egypt making peace with Israel once Israeli settlers were expelled from their land?

The belief in “Muslim world conquest” is not even remotely a liberal one, btw.
That was done for survival of the regime. Lots of Jewish people living in Egypt these days? You know, the ones that had settled into communities there for over a thousand years?
 
It’s okay, most Republicans like cheering on violence from their couches too.
What you're doing is cheerleading violence against ourselves. That's a self own and I'll always call it out.
 
That was done for survival of the regime. Lots of Jewish people living in Egypt these days? You know, the ones that had settled into communities there for over a thousand years?
The “regime” was in no danger of falling. Sadat had just taken power and proven Egyptian skill by slaughtering Israeli tankers and pilots around the Suez.

You are aware that Israel has actively been attempting to get people to move to Israel for decades....right?
 
@Lursa

I have established to include over time the fact the Generalissimo Trump hasn't anyone loyal or subservient to him in the command structure of the armed forces.

If the Generalissimo could have found such loyal or subservient or corrupt officers they would be the chiefs and commanders right now and by now. There are none however. Which blows up your projections that there WILL be officers who WILL defect to the Generalissimo. Your anti military posts are always WILL and never are or have defected.

It meanwhile is established you can't post to me directly or to argue your nonsense to me directly.

Your posts btw and Trump's statements are the same in that they're never wrong. And do not accept being challenged.

I look forward to your horsie reply. :cool:
 
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