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Trump Launches War On Iran

Real blank said:
I doubt she wouldn’t of done the same thing.
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I think circumstances have only been ripe under Trump. Though the Dems are somewhat soft on Israel as well, the tail is certainly wagging the dog since Trump took the reins.

Moreover with his attempts to play strongman at home often backfiring, he's looking to shoot down accusations that he "chickens out," by lashing out in classic weak-strongman style.

I doubt the same confluence of events would have occurred under Harris. Everything would have to have happened just as it has up to this point and it's likely a different admin would have handled Iran (and Israel) differently, not mention facing different pressures on the domestic front.
 
PIPEWRENCH said:
I am not a big fan of Trump but he has a way of getting things done.
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Naw, this is basically the second time he managed to get something done without chickening out.
 
The Brad Dad said:
Because it’s the left that either gains power and dems win or they’re reduced to a marginal party of Republican Lite.
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Deeper than that. Has to do with who bundles, and how. It's the reason all but a few Democrats will make only mealy noises about Trump bombing Iran. Schumer, on the other hand, won't be seen in public until he sheds his erection.
 
upsideguy said:
This is very sad.... First, if Trump had not ripped up the peace deal eight years ago, this would not have happened. This will likely be Iraq on steroids... thousands of young American lives lost because we elected a POTUS that does not have a clue how to do the job, and surrounds himself with 'yes man' that also can not do the job. Incompetence begets ugly results.


As to Americans electing a moron, well, its called representative government...


No, they will not ensure anything but the fermentation of hate. This sets Iran back, but ensures their dedication to getting nukes either organically or inorganically.... Iran will retaliate, likely with the effect felt at the pumps AND in terrorist attacks on US soil. No real objective was achieved by this other than Trump gets to own the news cycle yet again.
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The deal only delayed Iran's ability to make nukes
 
stealthycat said:
yeah I thought that too but that's chicken poo too and Trump? he's decisive and showing strength and making no qualms about it. That's different than we had with Biden

What will it all mean I am not sure

Ideally now this de-escalates, and Iran crumbles away from a potential nuclear power
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And what replaces the current regime?

Regime change didn't work out so well in Iraq. Or in Afghanistan. Or in Vietnam.
 
The Brad Dad said:
www.independent.co.uk

US has bombed three nuclear sites in Iran, Trump announces

The U.S. struck the Fordow, Natanz and Esfahan nuclear sites, Trump announced
www.independent.co.uk www.independent.co.uk

Republicans own every inch of this. Every single inch.
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You anti-Trumpers should be rejoicing.
You now have one more thing to complain about.
Shouldn't you be hoping those bombs bring Iran to its knees and destroys their bomb making capabilities? That would be too much ask for.
You knee biters are really hoping for failure because you didn't want him to attack Iran.
 
How you MAGAs loving that "President of Peace"?
 
Logophile said:
Really?? The baby bomber left us better than he found us?? Really?? Millions of undocumented were a good thing??
The Mr. "No Allegiance to the United States" was better than the current mess??

Remember this??View attachment 67575997

"I am a zionist," Joe Biden
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Yes, he found us better than when he left us. When he became president our economy had crashed due to TRump’s criminal handling of covid. He inherited a literally sick country. 4 years later and our economy was the envy of the world and Americans had largely been able to move past covid. Biden also averted a recession for 4 years as every pundit and Republican in the country insisted one was on the way. As for the “million illegals’, spare me the phony right wing immigration talking points. They’re going into Home Depot’s to arrest folks cause the supposed invading “army” is crap for the rubes.
 
Real blank said:
Why is America going to run out of bombs
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Lordy (eyes rolling) .... nor did we run out of bombs in Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan..... The Air Force has its limits in its effectiveness. First, there is no guarantee we got a kill. Second, nuclear technology is intellectual property. You can't bomb away intellectual property. Moreover, Iran can get a bomb without having make one from scratch.... Then there is the whole concept of 4th generation asymmetric warfare, which Iran can be quite good at; and we don't so well in defending.
 
PIPEWRENCH said:
As I recall the Russians waited for Trump to not be president to attack Ukraine. They waited for a weak leader.
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"Weak leader" meaning a leader they didn't have in their pocket.
 
Pyrite said:
And what replaces the current regime?

Regime change didn't work out so well in Iraq. Or in Afghanistan. Or in Vietnam.
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So you let them hash it out themselves.
 
jaypatriot said:
You anti-Trumpers should be rejoicing.
You now have one more thing to complain about.
Shouldn't you be hoping those bombs bring Iran to its knees and destroys their bomb making capabilities? That would be too much ask for.
You knee biters are really hoping for failure because you didn't want him to attack Iran.
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If we hoped for failure we would have voted in Donald J Trump to be our president.
 
JANFU said:
The deal only delayed Iran's ability to make nukes
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Correct. It kicked the can down the road.

That was a plus. What sure as heck isn't a plus: trump's arbitrarily reneging on the deal his predecessor had negotiated and signed. By this action, trump showed that neither the "word" nor the signature of the United States of America can be trusted.
 
Trump has successfully pushed the assassinated Democratic politician and the Epstein report and the masked ICE thugs and higher prices for everything out of the news.

Very savvy.
 
PIPEWRENCH said:
As I recall the Russians waited for Trump to not be president to attack Ukraine. They waited for a weak leader.
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No, they attacked on the whim of their poorly informed czarina, after spending two decades hiding from him the abysmal state of their kit, their failure to do routine maintenance, and the heroic levels of graft and theft.
 
jaypatriot said:
You anti-Trumpers should be rejoicing.
You now have one more thing to complain about.
Shouldn't you be hoping those bombs bring Iran to its knees and destroys their bomb making capabilities? That would be too much ask for.
You knee biters are really hoping for failure because you didn't want him to attack Iran.
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lol The party of hate can never get behind the president if he is not from their party. Right or wrong is irrelevant.
 
Pyrite said:
And what replaces the current regime?

Regime change didn't work out so well in Iraq. Or in Afghanistan. Or in Vietnam.
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OMG!!!! What are we all going to do now that their nuclear facilities have been destroyed?
Let's all go hide in a cellar and hope they don't retaliate.
That way you won't get hit if the sky falls on you.
 

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uptower said:
I think circumstances have only been ripe under Trump. Though the Dems are somewhat soft on Israel as well, the tail is certainly wagging the dog since Trump took the reins.

Moreover with his attempts to play strongman at home often backfiring, he's looking to shoot down accusations that he "chickens out," by lashing out in classic weak-strongman style.

I doubt the same confluence of events would have occurred under Harris. Everything would have to have happened just as it has up to this point and it's likely a different admin would have handled Iran (and Israel) differently, not mention facing different pressures on the domestic front.
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Maybe not tonight but I don’t see how these bombings wouldn’t happen eventually. Who high up in the American military is cool with Iran having a nuke.
 
Toggle Almendro said:
I wasn't expecting this. I figured he would leave it to Israel. Go figure.

Payback for the hostages in 1979 through. And the massacres of American forces in Lebanon in the early 1980s. And the kidnappings in Lebanon throughout the 1980s. Iran was certainly asking for it.
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So you'd harbor no ill will to a nation that overthrew your democratically elected president or prime minister at one point?
 
upsideguy said:
Lordy.... nor did we run out of bombs in Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan..... The Air Force has its limits of effectiveness. First place, nuclear technology is intellectual property. You can't bomb away intellectual property. Moreover, Iran can get a bomb without having make one from scratch.... Then there is the whole concept of 4th generation asymmetric warfare, which Iran can be quite good at.
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Not to mention, N Korea has bombs. A country of 24 million starving people with a negative GDP.

Iran isn't going to have a problem getting the bomb if they really want one.
 
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