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Trump Launches War On Iran

Exactly.

It also ends the democrats hope for a war with Iran. With their military bases in ashes, their nuclear ambitions destroyed, and Israel in full control of the airspace, Iran will have to surrender.

There is no question that Obama's people - John Kerry probably - have been using back channels to assure Iran that democrats would protect them, but with this, the Mullahs know that the democrats are impotent.

They will seek a peace treaty with Israel. And the years of terrorist attacks on America - the Houthis and other proxies - stops.
Get that mission accomplished banner raised!
 
So, another guy, just thinks it's all a joke.
All the centrifuges and uranium enrichment going on, and they have one nuclear power plant that they built more than a decade ago.
Gee, I wonder what all the weapons grade uranium is for? Certainly not power plants.
Then you must have an answer as to why there's weapons grade enriched uranium and no weapons despite them being 2 weeks away from building a bomb for the past 20+ years. What's of note is when they started enriching at that percentage compare to the past and why. That part's more of the joke, but I doubt you'll address that.
 
Calm down plse thx.

For one thing there's only one "straight" in Hormuz. :)

It's highly unlikely Tehran will try to blockade the Strait of Hormuz. The blockade would be undone within 48 hours at the most with lots of Iranian ships and craft at the bottom of the Strait. The world reaction would be strongly and loudly against Iran blocking the Strait given the supply and price of oil would increase suddenly and hugely.

ASEAN countries with Taiwan, SK, Japan and Australia rely on ME oil rather than the cheaper and closer Russian oil and gas to avoid becoming energy dependent on Putin. If Iran interposes itself to stop or reduce the supply of ME oil to east Asia all hell will come down on it and right away. This too would be a military win abroad for Trump. Don't we know that right now Trump and Hegseth are brandishing their new creds as C'nC and SecDef. Which is addictive.
If Iran is crazy enough to use a nuke, they are crazy enough to anything
 
Exactly.

It also ends the democrats hope for a war with Iran. With their military bases in ashes, their nuclear ambitions destroyed, and Israel in full control of the airspace, Iran will have to surrender.

There is no question that Obama's people - John Kerry probably - have been using back channels to assure Iran that democrats would protect them, but with this, the Mullahs know that the democrats are impotent.

They will seek a peace treaty with Israel. And the years of terrorist attacks on America - the Houthis and other proxies - stops.

Just like every single war started in the ME, it will be predictable with no uncertain events. And I bet the Iranians will greet us as liberators.
 
Exactly.

It also ends the democrats hope for a war with Iran. With their military bases in ashes, their nuclear ambitions destroyed, and Israel in full control of the airspace, Iran will have to surrender.

There is no question that Obama's people - John Kerry probably - have been using back channels to assure Iran that democrats would protect them, but with this, the Mullahs know that the democrats are impotent.

They will seek a peace treaty with Israel. And the years of terrorist attacks on America - the Houthis and other proxies - stops.
Iran didn’t surrender when the US was helping Saddam gas their civilians. The idea they “have” to surrender now is laughable.
 
Trump has given Netanyahu everything he wanted. He gave Israel the Golan Heights, he did the Abraham Accords which was nothing but a giant '**** you' to Palestinians. Trump sat back and watched as Israel expanded settlements in the West Bank. There's a reason Trump floated the idea of turning Gaza into casinos and golf courses. It's clear that both Trump and Netanyahu are warmongers. Trump promised, "no new wars in the Middle East". Well, that promise meant nothing. This is the man that Trump supporters said would be 'anti-war'. Looks exactly like imperialism to me.
Arabs in the swing states -- and in Michigan in particular -- voted for Trump so it's rewarding to me that they are getting what they voted for. These people did not vote for life in America. They voted for death in Palestine. These voters don't give a :poop: about life in America and their vote as Americans. These voters were significant in giving us Trump and his MAGA fascism. It's a thousands years old absurdity because neither side over there is able to learn to live together in peace if not in harmony. **** 'em.
 
Enjoy your war, neo-con!
There's nothing to enjoy other than the satisfaction that Iran's nuclear weapons development infrastructure has been severely crippled. That fact should be enjoyed by all of the countries in the Middle East who do not need, right now, to be considering their own nuclear weapons future.
 
Well well, I have to admit I am a bit surprised.

Kudos to all the Righties on here who are celebrating this bombing of Iran and are backing up their arguments.

I honestly expected this entire thread to be one LONG deflection and whataboutism. You know, like.....

Let's discuss if Trump should have made this attack, discuss the pros and cons, if you were for or against, but no.................Let's instead..............


Lame , really lame.


do you not understand looking at past actions of Presidents and comparing ?

if I supported Trump 1.0 and hammered Biden for doing the same things Trump was doing, how hypocritical would that have been right ?

its is SO stupid for people to ignore history and precedence and actions of previous leaders and comparing events and situations etc.

I understand your side loved Obama bombing and ya'll were ok Biden bombing and now you have to hate Trump doing it .... but please understand there are some of us out here that will call hypocrisy when it happens


don't play dumb like you don't understand - please - you're a better poster than that
 
Iran didn’t surrender when the US was helping Saddam gas their civilians. The idea they “have” to surrender now is laughable.
You're right. They do not have to surrender as long as they understand retaliation will result in further attacks on their damaged war-fighting infrastructure.
It's their choice - not Israel's or America's.
 
The action taken tonight is more likely a deterrant to a much worse escalation had Iran ever been allowed to build a nuke. We had appeased the Iranians for years with nothing but delay to show for it. Iran continued to sponsor terror and attack Israel.

wasn't Iran under signed agreements not to be developing nuclear ?
 
You're right. They do not have to surrender as long as they understand retaliation will result in further attacks on their damaged war-fighting infrastructure.
It's their choice - not Israel's or America's.
America has no room to cry about retaliation when it chose to begin a war of aggression in the first place.
 
democrats are allied with Iran. You don't tell the target before a strike.
Mostly, you do all that is necessary to avoid leaks which could certainly impede mission success and lead to harm or death to those brave individuals executing the mission.

This operational security was phenomenal for this mission and how great that is!!!

Sadly, but it's most definitely where we are, it would have been a terrible risk to operational security - to alert congressional Democrats.
 
liberals hate comparisons

they only want to focus on today - I understand why, do you ?
If you want comparisons, we can simply compare Trump’s campaign rhetoric of no new wars with his current new war. And we can compare “Saddam must not get WMDs” with “Iran must not have nukes.” All sorts of comparisons we can get into.
 
"Knowing these realities, America must not ignore the threat gathering against us. Facing clear evidence of peril, we cannot wait for the final proof -- the smoking gun -- that could come in the form of a mushroom cloud."

George W. Bush.
Yes, there are threats gathering against us.
The major threat from Iran has been hopefully neutralized for many years to come.
 
Trump is certainly claiming they took out the facilities
...

But sure, trust the word of the guys who hate Ukraine and love Putin.

I'm sure John Kerry was assuring the Mullahs that Insurrectionist Judges would stop the complete destruction of their Nuclear facilities.

Say, you don't think the Mullahs will demand Obama give back the mansions now? Could they sue the Obama cartel for "failure to deliver?" Maybe "breach of treason?"
 
Yes, there are threats gathering against us.
The major threat from Iran has been hopefully neutralized for many years to come.

Iran wasn’t a direct threat to us. Their terrorist network remains in tact and will be activated however. We will lose American lives because Trump is too stupid to know he’s being played by Bibi.
 
😂😂😂

Yeah sure.

If anything, Israel and now the US are creating MORE terrorists, not fewer.

Your ally is defeated,

Further, they will no longer be able to supply Putin with weapons for the forever war. This just keeps getting worse for America's Hamas - the democrats.
 
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