Trump is Right to Question Hispanic Judge

[upsideguy]

Hilarious.
Nothing you said is even relevant to the accuracy of what he said.

ROTFLOL..... you completely missed the point. I wasn't commenting on the accuracy of what he said; I was commenting on the lack of legal credibility on the guy who said it. Pointing out one of this guy has the legal backbone of Gumby and the legal mind of Gomer Pyle, as evidenced by the fact he could not get a decent job even though he once held the title of AG.

 

[danarhea]

What dishonesty did you note? And you listing people who agree with you does not add weight to your position, particularly since in my opening sentence I pointed out that 'everybody seems to be calling it racism.' And what Trump did is nothing new. Liberals embrace it all the time. Its called identity politics.

Also noted that, if you see a Liberal stick his head in a bucket of pig manure, you would do it yourself and call it normal. LOL.

 

[Socrates1]

This message comes to us courtesy that bastion of Trump worship known as Breitbart. Breitbart, which has proven its love for Trump on so many occassions from questioning the story of its own reporter to backstabbing former employees. Breitbart, which has taken upon itself to help "explain" the alt-right movement, and thereby prompting the Southern Poverty Law Center to ask whether Breitbart is becoming the media arm of the alt-right movement.

So the basic gist of their argument is that questioning the bias of a judge is a time honored tradition and necessary to the fair functioning of the US Justice System. This ignores the fact that such a tactic is supposed to take place through a motion filed by the attorneys involved in the case - not by a party in front of the media. They also note that the Judge is part of a Hispanic Group of Attorneys and Judges located in the local area and that this group's name includes "La Raza" or "the race." Of course they forget to explain that this group is not associated in any form or fashion with the national La Raza group nor do they explain (beyond a few "isn't it reasonable" types of questions) how being apart of a group that attempts to further the interests of a demographic group means that this specific individual will be biased against Trump.

Breitbart even tries to allege the following, "Judge Curiel’s integrity is not being questioned by Trump just because of his Hispanic heritage. Trump is merely asserting that a person’s heritage does not foreclose a proper inquiry into their political activism and potential biases."

Seriously? That's an interesting way of interpreting the fact that Trump explicitly brought up the Judge's hispanic lineage, on his own, while simultaneously claiming that meant the judge suffered from an "absolute conflict of interest" because Trump wants to build a wall.

At this point, should Breitbart just re-name themselves into Trump.com? Or perhaps Alt-right.com?

Why even pretend to be a journalistic source for news.

Last I checked we still have a First Amendment , who knows after the democrats gain control . :roll:

 

[MrT]

I don't know who those people are.

Neither do I except that you are all posters on this forum that are dedicated to defending Trump's attack as not being racist.

You've told me not to use my own analysis and that I shouldn't listen to the conclusions of a broad spectrum of journalists or politicians. So why should I listen you or the other defenders?

 

[MrT]

Last I checked we still have a First Amendment , who knows after the democrats gain control . :roll:

Yes, Trump and Breitbart will not be prosecuted for this racist attack because of the first amendment. However, the first amendment also allows me and everyone else who doesn't live off the sustenance that drips from Trump's fat orange face to criticize him as being racist.

 

[Fletch]

Also noted that, if you see a Liberal stick his head in a bucket of pig manure, you would do it yourself and call it normal. LOL.

You make no sense.

 

[Socrates1]

Yes, Trump and Breitbart will not be prosecuted for this racist attack because of the first amendment. However, the first amendment also allows me and everyone else who doesn't live off the sustenance that drips from Trump's fat orange face to criticize him as being racist.

My God , what would you libs do without the ability to label someone racist ? :roll:

 

[Socrates1]

Yes, Trump and Breitbart will not be prosecuted for this racist attack because of the first amendment. However, the first amendment also allows me and everyone else who doesn't live off the sustenance that drips from Trump's fat orange face to criticize him as being racist.

Is that why liberals had little to say when Slick Willie Clinton said Obama would be getting his coffee and not running against his slimy corrupt wife ???

 

[MrT]

Is that why liberals had little to say when Slick Willie Clinton said Obama would be getting his coffee and not running against his slimy corrupt wife ???

First, he was criticized by the left for that comment. I know this because the only reason you would have even heard about that comment is that it was made early during a democratic primary when the only folks to paid attention were the left.

Second, wtf does that have to do with trump's attack on curiel?

Third, because I liked the line so much, I just want to repeat that the first amendment also allows me and everyone else who do not rely upon the excretions from Trump's fat, orange face to criticize his comments as racist.

 

[bubbabgone]

1) World Nut Job Daily is not a credible source. They run conspiracy theories all of the time; including Obama is Kenyan. I posted a something also derived from a right wing website that is contrary to this garbage. Without a credible source, again by debate theory, we can all assume its not so. So its not.
2) We agree
3) No, I had not.

1) But did you read it? Conspiracies can't afford to come with that many claims that could be proven false when they're checked. Go ahead ... take a look.
You can get away with a lot of closed mindedness by refusing sites because they say things you don't like.
Can you re-post that link that you say puts the lie to Judge Curiel's associations?

2) That's good ... but that was a judicial philosophy being peddled as desirable by the Left.

3) That's not good ... Sounds like you and Liz are of one mind.

 

[TobyOne]

I don't honestly care.

Neither do I except that you are all posters on this forum that are dedicated to defending Trump's attack as not being racist.

You've told me not to use my own analysis and that I shouldn't listen to the conclusions of a broad spectrum of journalists or politicians. So why should I listen you or the other defenders?

 

[Wiggen]

Considering that Canada's black population is a small fraction of the electorate and tine compared to the US ratio, you're blowing smoke as usual.

Why not say, take a look at women...hmmm. No less than one prime minister and four heads of sate in the form of Governor General, now eight premiers out of 13 provinces and territories.
Or how about the the first black served as a national representative.

Would expect nothing less from a confirmed America hater like you. Blacks comprise something around 13% of the US population - and less than that of registered voters. Yet Barack Obama managed to get over 50% of the vote in two national elections. Your anti-American tirades are becoming as predictable as they are tiresome. You need to get a life based on something other than hatred of americans.

 

[Wiggen]

Is that why liberals had little to say when Slick Willie Clinton said Obama would be getting his coffee and not running against his slimy corrupt wife ???

Bull**** right wing crap.

 

[Wiggen]

My God , what would you libs do without the ability to label someone racist ? :roll:

You mean liberals like Paul Ryan, Lindsey Graham, Mitch McConnell, Jeff Flake, etc. etc. You Trumpies are becoming more and more amusing the more your boy makes a fool of himself.

 

[Wiggen]

Last I checked we still have a First Amendment , who knows after the democrats gain control . :roll:

No, you're confused. It's the racist, misogynistic demagogue Herr Trump that wants to do away with Freedom of the Press. And for the record, I love it when you exercise your Freedom of Speech. Making a fool of yourself in the process, but hey - whatever floats your boat.

 

[danarhea]

My God , what would you libs do without the ability to label someone racist ? :roll:

I don't know. What WOULD Paul Ryan, Newt Gingrich, and all the rest of those Republicans who called Ryan's statement racist do?

 

[Socrates1]

First, he was criticized by the left for that comment. I know this because the only reason you would have even heard about that comment is that it was made early during a democratic primary when the only folks to paid attention were the left.

Second, wtf does that have to do with trump's attack on curiel?

Third, because I liked the line so much, I just want to repeat that the first amendment also allows me and everyone else who do not rely upon the excretions from Trump's fat, orange face to criticize his comments as racist.

typical liberal , no racist label for slick Willie , got it ! :lamo

 

[Socrates1]

Bull**** right wing crap.

What is BS , besides the labels the leftwing nuts throw around ??? :lamo

 

[Wiggen]

typical liberal , no racist label for slick Willie , got it ! :lamo

Yeah, he's such a racist that African Americans overwhelmingly supported him. That he was the man chosen to give the Eulogy at Ali's funeral. That he went out and campaigned tirelessly for Barack Obama in two Presidential elections. That he was fondly referred to as the First Black President before we actually had one. It's a pity you don't know your ass from a hole in the ground.

Understanding The Clintons' Popularity With Black Voters : NPR

But then again, considering your knowledge level on every other subject, why should it be a surprise that you are totally ignorant on this one?:lamo

 

[Wiggen]

What is BS ??? :lamo

Just about everything you post. No, I take that back. Everything you post.

 

[Wiggen]

I don't know. What WOULD Paul Ryan, Newt Gingrich, and all the rest of those Republicans who called Ryan's statement racist do?

Sssshhhhh. He thinks they're all liberals! Well, I suppose next to him they are.

 

[Wiggen]

I did my research.....

Do your own and get back to me.

If you did your own research, I'd suggest hiring a new researcher. With all due respect, you don't know **** from shinola on this subject.

 

[Wiggen]

The facts about La Raza Lawyers Association are all over the internet. You know and I know and anyone who has looked into it knows there is no relationship between the run-of-the-mill attorney's association and the national council. Now, here's a link to a conservative site that debunks your claim. To continue to make your claims after you've read the link makes you a liar.

The Dishonest Attempt to Associate Gonzalo Curiel with "La Raza" | RedState

The words 'Dishonest Attempt' and RetiredUSN seem amazingly well suited to each other. I'm still vastly amused by his 'slightly conservative' lean.

 

[domer76]

The judge belongs to the San Diego La Raza Lawyers Association whose website provides links to its affiliates including the national La Raza organization. The judge sat on a board of the San Diego La Raza Lawyers Association which awarded a scholarship to at least one illegal alien - I thought judges were sworn to uphold our laws and Constitution? Explicitly supporting illegals who break our laws does not fall under that oath, unless you are brain dead.

It provides links to other Hispanic sites. You're the one who buys into the affiliate bull****.

The recipient was a baby brought into this country and is trying to better himself. The PRIVATE attorneys association can give their money to whomever they wish.

 

[PirateMk1]

The Judge has made some questionable decisions regarding this case.
Because of these questionable decisions Trump believes the Judge is biased.
The only thing he could possibly be biased against him for is for his recent political stances, some of which directly have a relation to the Judge's heritage.


The Judge is a member of the LA Raza Lawyers Association.

This Association are activists who support illegals which Trump is against.​

This Judge is a member of the Hispanic National Bar Association

This Association put out a National Press Briefing being against Trump's business interests. That is being against Trump.

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Former attorney general: Trump right to question judge’s fairness

Former Attorney General Alberto Gonzales says Donald Trump is right to challenge the fairness a judge overseeing lawsuits against him.

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“These circumstances, while not necessarily conclusive, at least raise a legitimate question to be considered,” said Gonzales, who was attorney general for former President George W. Bush.​

Former attorney general: Trump right to question judge’s fairness | TheHill​

I would like to point out in case nobody else has, that La Raza is the Hispanic equivalent to the Klu Klux Klan, in fact I would go so far to say that they could give lessons in racism to the Klan. They just don't burn crosses or wear white sheets playing Casper the unfriendly ghost, but otherwise they are some seriously racist bastards very much in the mold of the Klan.

I am not black but if I had a Klan member as a judge in a case involving me, I would be very concerned about the judges integrity. I think Trump might have similar thoughts about a member of La Raza on his case.