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Trump: I could declassify documents by thinking about it

snakestretcher said:
'Put to bed' by whom? Are you privy to the contents of the Top Secret folders, or those marked SCI? I'm not, and I don't make assumptions either. The fact remains that there is a strong possibility that nuclear secrets were among those documents, and if there are any marked RD or FRD (including nuclear secrets), nobody except the DoE's Director of Classification may declassify them. There is no exemption in law for the POTUS.
More troubling; where are the documents from the empty folders? Why are these documents not in the National Archive where, by law, they must be stored.
Is a private Florida golf resort a suitably secure government facility? Try again, your desperation to be right is showing.
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Quite telling you don't quote yuour source for this nonsense you are spewing. Quite telling
 
ClaraD said:
pot meet kettle.
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Backatcha Clara. I support every factual claim I make with a source, with data. Like 47% of illegals not showing up for their first hearing.
 
snakestretcher said:
Deflection noted. Go away, you lost.
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I accept your surrender. You're not very good at this. Take some time and find the source for your nonsense that Trump has nuclear secrets. I'll give you a head start, it rhymes with WaPo.
 
2000Mules said:
What does the Constitution say?
It vests ALL declassification powers in the hands of the President.
There is no procedure he must follow, and Kash Patel claims and would do so under oath, that he was present when said documents were declassified.
But for arguments sake, let's assume he wasn't.

Again, what does the Constitution say?

Steven Aftergood, director of the Federation of American Scientists Project on Government Secrecy, said that such authority gives the president the authority to "classify and declassify at will."

In fact, Robert F. Turner, associate director of the University of Virginia's Center for National Security Law, said that "if Congress were to enact a statute seeking to limit the president’s authority to classify or declassify national security information,... it would raise serious separation of powers constitutional issues."

The president is not "obliged to follow any procedures other than those that he himself has prescribed," Aftergood said. "And he can change those."

The national-security experts at the blog Lawfare wrote in the wake of the Post’s revelation that the "infamous comment" by President Richard Nixon — that "when the president does it, that means that it is not illegal" — "is actually true about some things. Classified information is one of them. The nature of the system is that the president gets to disclose what he wants."

Sourced from: https://www.politifact.com/factchec...resident-have-ability-declassify-anything-an/

In short, the President can declassify as he sees fit. He need not follow any "procedure". It is maddening for his opposition, but that is the power vested to the President in the Constitution. Hillary and any other bureaucrats on the other hand do not have that authority and must adhere to rules about handling such material. But as we have learned, the justice system is broken, unequal, perverted to its core. If it was equal, Hillary would have been behind bars, as would Huma and others for having, storing, sending and stripping classification markings from documents.

This is just another chapter in the Trump witch hunt. A laughable and obvious political scheme by Biden and the party to try to stop Trump. Despite throwing every imaginable beanball at him, nothing has worked. In fact, it has come back to haunt those throwing the beanies, as we learn Hillary, the FBI at a minimum colluded with Russia to get Trump.

This latest bit of tyrannical turdery will fail too.
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2000 mules? Loses any credibly form the get go.
If there is no procedure then how does anyone know what if classified or not. Such a stupid argument, but of course it is the only thing a cult member has at this point.
 
Rawley said:
I accept your surrender. You're not very good at this. Take some time and find the source for your nonsense that Trump has nuclear secrets. I'll give you a head start, it rhymes with WaPo.
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Did I, or did I not, clearly state that I don't make assumptions (post #1274)? Why then are you asserting that there are no nuclear secrets among the materials seized, denying that there may be?
 
snakestretcher said:
Did I, or did I not, clearly state that I don't make assumptions? Why then are you asserting that there are no nuclear secrets among the materials seized?
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Because your leaker has said so. I'll give you the advice again, take some time and find the source for your nonsense that Trump has nuclear secrets. The assumptions you are leaping to is making you look foolish.
 
Rawley said:
Because your leaker has said so. I'll give you the advice again, take some time and find the source for your nonsense that Trump has nuclear secrets. The assumptions you are leaping to is making you look foolish.
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What assumptions? If I say I make no assumptions it means I'll wait until the investigation has concluded. How about you, or will you continue to make claims about things you have no idea about-like the contents of the Top Secret files? Are you waving or drowning?
 
snakestretcher said:
What assumptions? If I say I make no assumptions it means I'll wait until the investigation has concluded. How about you, or will you continue to make claims about things you have no idea about-like the contents of the Top Secret files? Are you waving or drowning?
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LOL so why are you blathering about declassifying nuclear secrets on a thread discussing Trump declassifying docuements if you aren't making assumptions? Just to hear yourself talk? Again. you aren't very good at this debate thing.
 
Rawley said:
LOL so why are you blathering about declassifying nuclear secrets on a thread discussing Trump declassifying docuements if you aren't making assumptions? Just to hear yourself talk? Again. you aren't very good at this debate thing.
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You clearly have comprehension issues. Not making assumptions means the person is non-committal. Now go away, you're done.
 
snakestretcher said:
You clearly have comprehension issues. Not making assumptions means the person is non-committal. Now go away, you're done.
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You're rght, It is difficult to comprehend your claim that you are not making assumptions when you have 40 posts trying to make the argument that Trump didn't have the power to declassify documents related to DOE nuclear secrets.
 
Rawley said:
You're rght, It is difficult to comprehend your claim that you are not making assumptions when you have 40 posts trying to make the argument that Trump didn't have the power to declassify documents related to DOE nuclear secrets.
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He doesn't have that power. Good, you learned something.
 
Rawley said:
LOL Yes I do have a question. Do you even know what the CFR is?
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More importantly do you know what the CFR is?

Just in case you did not know :giggle:
Code of Federal Regulations
"The Code of Federal Regulations (CFR) is the codification of the general and permanent rules published in the Federal Register by the executive departments and agencies of the Federal Government. It is divided into 50 titles that represent broad areas subject to Federal regulation. Each volume of the CFR is updated once each calendar year and is issued on a quarterly basis.

www.archives.gov

About the Code of Federal Regulations

First Published: 1938 Online Availability: 1996 forward Issued: Yearly The Code of Federal Regulations (CFR) is the codification of the general and permanent rules published in the Federal Register by the executive departments and agencies of the Federal Government. It is divided into 50 titles...
www.archives.gov www.archives.gov
 
snakestretcher said:
He doesn't have that power. Good, you learned something.
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Well, you're wrong on that. But that's beside the point. Why would you even be discussing it unless you ASSUME that he has nuclear documents? Again, just to hear yourself talk?
 
mike2810 said:
More importantly do you know what the CFR is?

Just in case you did not know :giggle:
Code of Federal Regulations
"The Code of Federal Regulations (CFR) is the codification of the general and permanent rules published in the Federal Register by the executive departments and agencies of the Federal Government. It is divided into 50 titles that represent broad areas subject to Federal regulation. Each volume of the CFR is updated once each calendar year and is issued on a quarterly basis.

www.archives.gov

About the Code of Federal Regulations

First Published: 1938 Online Availability: 1996 forward Issued: Yearly The Code of Federal Regulations (CFR) is the codification of the general and permanent rules published in the Federal Register by the executive departments and agencies of the Federal Government. It is divided into 50 titles...
www.archives.gov www.archives.gov
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Yes. I make quite a nice living understanding certain sets of regulations under the CFR.
 
trouble13 said:
You have touched upon one of the things that I am curious about. If aides packed the boxes as seems to be the claim why wasn't a bigger deal made about this at the time? I'm not asking you for an answer. It is just one of many questions that do not add up for me.
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Random aides being told by much higher ranking people, perhaps even POTUS himself, might not ask too many questions?
 
Anthony60 said:
You are trying to claim that Trump can't declassify documents because he is a private citizen, even though he was POTUS when they were moved down there and were declassified.

I know you guys are used to misleading people and making arguments based on lies, because you have to in order to promote your leftist crap, but try that with your low information types.
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Even if you buy the “magic mind powers declassification” claim, that doesn’t make the documents Trump’s personal property and it doesn’t make it ok for him to have them.
 
Deuce said:
“Abandoned furniture warehouse”

NARA was supervising this process. It wasn’t abandoned.
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Was it supervising? It wasn't a NARA approved facility. It wasn't a facility for storing classified documents. But that's exactly what the Obama foundation was doing. Lose your Trunp hate for a moment and ask yourself why the disparate treatment by NARA and the FBI between Obama and Trump. DOn't give us the bullshit that "Obama was working with NARA" Why didn't they strike the same deal with Trump for his to control his docs for a certain period of time that they gave Obama?
 
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