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Trump holds a political rally at a military base

Yeah... Washington called it

The alternate domination of one faction over another, sharpened by the spirit of revenge, natural to party dissension, which in different ages and countries has perpetrated the most horrid enormities, is itself a frightful despotism. But this leads at length to a more formal and permanent despotism. The disorders and miseries which result gradually incline the minds of men to seek security and repose in the absolute power of an individual; and sooner or later the chief of some prevailing faction, more able or more fortunate than his competitors, turns this disposition to the purposes of his own elevation, on the ruins of public liberty.
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Do the Unitary Executive freaks actually read the words that were said all those years ago?
 
The military has enjoyed significant respect in the last few decades because people recognized that they did their jobs according to the Constitution.
If Trump succeeds in politicizing the military and using it as a tool to attack Americans, they will run the risk of being regarded as nothing more than guard dogs for an emperor and they
will face the largest insurgency in human history.

This is a defining moment and a crossroads and I pray that our soldiers remember that their duty is to the Constitution, not to a man.
 
Another step toward martial law. The President of South Korea declared martial law last December. That stood for one day before the assembly nullified it. President Yoon Suk Yeol was then impeached and thrown out of office.

Just sayin'.
 
Trump is very obviously trying to emulate Putin, Xi, Kim etc. He has often expressed his admiration for these authoritarian and evil strong man type leaders who rule by constantly 'eliminating' those that disagree with them or oppose them. The question is - why do so many Americans want to make this Americas future? Do you want to live like the Russians, Chinese, or North Koreans? If not, why the hell do you support what Trump is so obviously doing?
 
Checkerboard Strangler said:
The military has enjoyed significant respect in the last few decades because people recognized that they did their jobs according to the Constitution.
If Trump succeeds in politicizing the military and using it as a tool to attack Americans, they will run the risk of being regarded as nothing more than guard dogs for an emperor and they
will face the largest insurgency in human history.

This is a defining moment and a crossroads and I pray that our soldiers remember that their duty is to the Constitution, not to a man.
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I expect that the demographics of those serving in the armed forces roughly match the demographics of the wider population, which means there is good reason to believe that some 30% of those serving in the military are loyal first and only to Donald John Trump, while the other 70% are loyal to the Constitution. Therefore that insurgency will start within the military itself.

I hope it doesn't happen, but the sad reality is that there are likely several hundred thousand people in our armed forces who have sworn fealty to Donald Trump and will hate whom he tells them to hate, fight whom he tells them to fight, and kill whom he tells them to kill. So, this is really about everybody else in the armed forces, and getting the message out to them that there will come a time when they may need to protect the rest of the population from some of their own fellow soldiers.
 
phoenix2020 said:
I expect that the demographics of those serving in the armed forces roughly match the demographics of the wider population, which means there is good reason to believe that some 30% of those serving in the military are loyal first and only to Donald John Trump, while the other 70% are loyal to the Constitution. Therefore that insurgency will start within the military itself.

I hope it doesn't happen, but the sad reality is that there are likely several hundred thousand people in our armed forces who have sworn fealty to Donald Trump and will hate whom he tells them to hate, fight whom he tells them to fight, and kill whom he tells them to kill. So, this is really about everybody else in the armed forces, and getting the message out to them that there will come a time when they may need to protect the rest of the population from some of their own fellow soldiers.
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This is the kind of stuff you see in banana republics, and what you can end up with are factions of the military loyal to the leader and others not so much, so if there's a coup things go all sorts of sideways.
 
ElChupacabra said:
This is the kind of stuff you see in banana republics, and what you can end up with are factions of the military loyal to the leader and others not so much, so if there's a coup things go all sorts of sideways.
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I'd like to think our armed forces would be different, but frankly speaking I have no basis from which to defend that belief. They are ultimately just regular human beings like everybody else. They consume the same media. They'll accept or reject the same lies or narratives. So, it stands to reason that today, right now, a small but significant percentage of our soldiers and fighters are loyal to Donald and Donald alone.
 
In the military I think Trump supporters will be most prevalent among the rank and file; while the majority of the officer corps is more likely to honor the constitution.

These are generalizations and there will be exceptions of course. But that's what I think.
 
ElChupacabra said:
This is the kind of stuff you see in banana republics, and what you can end up with are factions of the military loyal to the leader and others not so much, so if there's a coup things go all sorts of sideways.
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What is supposed to separate us FROM Banana Land is the fact that our military has ALWAYS sworn an oath to the Constitution whereas in many other countries they swear an oath to a person, usually an absolute monarch, dictator or entrenched leader of a virtual one party system where the party controls ALL candidates.
Also, we have the Uniform Code of Military Justice which specifically warns against obeying orders which are repugnant to the Constitution.

If they are swearing loyalty to Trump, they are breaking the law, violating the Constitution and setting themselves up for court martial or worse.
 
Checkerboard Strangler said:
What is supposed to separate us FROM Banana Land is the fact that our military has ALWAYS sworn an oath to the Constitution whereas in many other countries they swear an oath to a person, usually an absolute monarch, dictator or entrenched leader of a virtual one party system where the party controls ALL candidates.
Also, we have the Uniform Code of Military Justice which specifically warns against obeying orders which are repugnant to the Constitution.

If they are swearing loyalty to Trump, they are breaking the law, violating the Constitution and setting themselves up for court martial or worse.
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There won’t be anyone left to prosecute them…….
 
Hamish Howl said:
Laws don't matter anymore.

And you know what that means.
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And if that truly turns out to be the case, then ultimately the Republic has ceased to exist.
Secession from "the union" is constitutionally impossible but if the Constitution is invalidated and nullified then the union disappears.
Anything claiming to act on behalf of such a post-constitutional "union" is in breach and is "taxation without representation" and forced obedience to a tyrant.
We fought a revolution against those very things all those years ago.
We fought a world war against those very things eighty years ago.

There will be nothing to secede FROM.
 
Checkerboard Strangler said:
The military has enjoyed significant respect in the last few decades because people recognized that they did their jobs according to the Constitution.
If Trump succeeds in politicizing the military and using it as a tool to attack Americans, they will run the risk of being regarded as nothing more than guard dogs for an emperor and they
will face the largest insurgency in human history.

This is a defining moment and a crossroads and I pray that our soldiers remember that their duty is to the Constitution, not to a man.
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Let's hope it is "if" not "when".
Hi Karen.
 
Loulit01 said:
Another step toward martial law. The President of South Korea declared martial law last December. That stood for one day before the assembly nullified it. President Yoon Suk Yeol was then impeached and thrown out of office.

Just sayin'.
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Have you looked at our "assembly"?
 
Loulit01 said:
Another step toward martial law. The President of South Korea declared martial law last December. That stood for one day before the assembly nullified it. President Yoon Suk Yeol was then impeached and thrown out of office.

Just sayin'.
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Dictators never last that long....it always ends badly for them...
 
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