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Trump explains why were abandoning Crimea to Russia

It's the same reason anyone else ever makes it onto a Board of Directors. Messaging. You think Fortune 500 Companies pick celebrities for their business expertise?
Point is, that Biden held a 2 billion dollar loan guarantee over the leadership's head to get a prosecutor fired. That is interfering in the affairs of a sovereign nation. Same thing the democrats based a phony impeachment of Trump on.
 
Point is, that Biden held a 2 billion dollar loan guarantee over the leadership's head to get a prosecutor fired. That is interfering in the affairs of a sovereign nation. Same thing the democrats based a phony impeachment of Trump on.

I think it's legitimate to suspend aid if that aid is going to corrupt purposes, don't you?

If we spend a billion to support Ukrainian anti-corruption efforts and those efforts are undermined by a corrupt prosecutor who was put in charge of fighting that very corruption, well, what other choice is there?
 
I think it's legitimate to suspend aid if that aid is going to corrupt purposes, don't you?

If we spend a billion to support Ukrainian anti-corruption efforts and those efforts are undermined by a corrupt prosecutor who was put in charge of fighting that very corruption, well, what other choice is there?
I could just as easily say that that same corruption existed with Burisma and it needed to be investigated. In any case you are just digging yourself in deeper. Biden's only motivation to want to get the prosecutor fired was to protect his crack addicted son who happened to be on the board of Burisma.
 
I could just as easily say that that same corruption existed with Burisma and it needed to be investigated. In any case you are just digging yourself in deeper. Biden's only motivation to want to get the prosecutor fired was to protect his crack addicted son who happened to be on the board of Burisma.

You could say anything.

I'm not saying Zlochevsky, the CEO of Burisma wasn't corrupt... he was tied to the former pro-Russian Ukrainian regime - was a former Minister in it, in fact. But he was in an awkward position when the Ukrainian Government changed from being pro-Russian to being pro-Western. He needed to at least put up the appearance of cleaning up his act. That's why he brought on a lot of new Directors to Burisma's board. Hunter Biden was one of them. But so were Cofer Black (former high-ranking CIA official) and former President Kwasniewski of Poland, among others. It was to provide cover for him. It didn't save him in the end, though - the new Board (including Biden) voted to fire him anyway.
 
You could say anything.

I'm not saying Zlochevsky, the CEO of Burisma wasn't corrupt... he was tied to the former pro-Russian Ukrainian regime - was a former Minister in it, in fact. But he was in an awkward position when the Ukrainian Government changed from being pro-Russian to being pro-Western. He needed to at least put up the appearance of cleaning up his act. That's why he brought on a lot of new Directors to Burisma's board. Hunter Biden was one of them. But so were Cofer Black (former high-ranking CIA official) and former President Kwasniewski of Poland, among others. It was to provide cover for him. It didn't save him in the end, though - the new Board (including Biden) voted to fire him anyway.
Stop it. Biden did what you libruls are accusing Trump of and boasted about it in front of the cameras.
 
Point is, that Biden held a 2 billion dollar loan guarantee over the leadership's head to get a prosecutor fired. That is interfering in the affairs of a sovereign nation. Same thing the democrats based a phony impeachment of Trump on.

"Joe Biden followed State Department intentions when he withheld the loan guarantee to pressure Ukraine into removing the prosecutor,[4][5] who was seen as corrupt and failing to clean up Ukrainian corruption,[6] in accordance with the official and bipartisan policy of the United States, the European Union, the World Bank and the International Monetary Fund.[7][8][9"
 
If you want to keep believing in fairy tales, there's nothing I can say to disabuse you.
You are the one believing in fairy tales. Your comrades in congress accused Trump of holding up loan guarantees over the Ukraine president's head to get Burisma investigated. He didn't And the Ukrainian president claimed it did not happen. The investigation did not take place and the loan was awarded. Case closed. Biden absolutely held loan guarantees over the Ukrainian president's head to get a prosecutor then looking into Burisma fired. The prosecutor was fired and Biden bragged about it in front of TV cameras. Yet you think Trump is guilty and Biden is not. You have absolutely no credibility. Take care.
 
You are the one believing in fairy tales. Your comrades in congress accused Trump of holding up loan guarantees over the Ukraine president's head to get Burisma investigated. He didn't And the Ukrainian president claimed it did not happen. The investigation did not take place and the loan was awarded. Case closed. Biden absolutely held loan guarantees over the Ukrainian president's head to get a prosecutor then looking into Burisma fired. The prosecutor was fired and Biden bragged about it in front of TV cameras. Yet you think Trump is guilty and Biden is not. You have absolutely no credibility. Take care.

Trump had Rudy Giuliani "investigating" Burisma is manufacture dirt on a political rival. If he were truly investigating Burisma, there were legitimate (and legal) means of doing so.
 
Trump had Rudy Giuliani "investigating" Burisma is manufacture dirt on a political rival. If he were truly investigating Burisma, there were legitimate (and legal) means of doing so.
I have no more patience with you. Take care.
 
I have no more patience with you. Take care.

If there were any legitimacy whatsoever to the charges, he would have appointed a Special Counsel, wouldn't he?

At the very least, Rudy would have reported his findings to the FBI... did he ever get around to that?
 
You are the one believing in fairy tales. Your comrades in congress accused Trump of holding up loan guarantees over the Ukraine president's head to get Burisma investigated. He didn't And the Ukrainian president claimed it did not happen. The investigation did not take place and the loan was awarded. Case closed. Biden absolutely held loan guarantees over the Ukrainian president's head to get a prosecutor then looking into Burisma fired. The prosecutor was fired and Biden bragged about it in front of TV cameras. Yet you think Trump is guilty and Biden is not. You have absolutely no credibility. Take care.

 
Time for the first LIE. Yanukovich never ordered to shoot anybody.

Because otherwise he would have been killed.
That is he was ILLEGALLY deposed and ousted.
Mike Pence didn't run away from the howling mob.

Your politicians are small and weak.
 
Mike Pence didn't run away from the howling mob.

Your politicians are small and weak.
“Not being smart enough to flee from the death squad” is not exactly a shining endorsement of American politicians.
 
Yanukovych fled Kyiv in a helicopter with many millions in embezzled government money. He was a career criminal, as a young man doing two stints in prison for robbery and assault.

Yanukovych fled Ukraine because he had signed documents that very day (21 February 2014, witnessed by the Ambassadors of Germany and France) that called for snap elections before December, an end to his draconian Anti-Protest Laws, and a return to the Constitution of 2004. And at the urging of Putin, Yanukovych had also ordered his riot police (Berkut) to shoot protesters, killing over 100. He would have to answer for his crimes, so he fled. To again demonstrate his treachery, Yanukovych was in Belarus on 24 February 2022, poised to enjoy a short flight to Kyiv after Zelenskyy had been assassinated and the city was under Russian martial law. Things didn't work out as Yanukovych (and Putin) planned. The war goes on and Yanukovych has a 13 year prison sentence waiting for him in Ukraine.
All nonsense!

Investigations of the Massacre of the Police on February 18-20, 2014


The GPU reported that 13 Berkut policemen and Internal Troops servicemen, were killed in the Maidan area by unknown persons of unknown allegiance during the Maidan massacre on February 18-20, 2014. Nine policemen were killed on February 18-19 during the attempts to disperse the Maidan, and four were killed in the morning of February 20. The failure to identify suspects or their affiliation in these killings is clearly not due to lack of evidence.

Three members of the special Maidan company admitted in their BBC and Ukrainian media interviews that they and other armed protesters there shot the police in the early morning of February 20th from a Kalashnikov assault rifle, a Kalashnikov-based Saiga hunting carbine, and hunting rifles with intentions to kill or wound them. Its commander said that this company was organized and based in the Music Conservatory after talks with the Right Sector. One of its members indicated that he got his weapon from the Main Post-Office building, which then was the Right Sector headquarters, while another said that he asked the Right Sector for more ammunition during the massacre.
 
“Not being smart enough to flee from the death squad” is not exactly a shining endorsement of American politicians.
He has no brains, but at least he has balls.
 
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