Trump displays altered weather map showing Dorian could have hit Alabama

[SkyFox76]

And so should you, but Trump did not give false emergency weather information unless you're under the delusion that this weather map from
NOLA is fake.....

I know you have huge issues as far as time lines but why are you showing a map dated Aug 29th? Trumps Alabama claim was made September 1st. If your set on defending the man then offer up an actual map dated Sept 1st (again, the day he made the claim on Alabama). Also (for extra credit) offer your thought as to why, 20 minutes after the presidents claim of Alabama being part of where Dorian was headed, the Alabama weather service literally announced Alabama would not be in danger from the hurricane.

Thanks

 

[JasperL]

Weird that you cropped out the timestamps. Why did you do that?

I noticed that too. Not sure if he did that, but someone did because they're part of the actual images. :doh

 

[Nuber]

Breaking News! The Wall is finished!

Typical contractor - leave construction debris behind. Now I have to pick up those cones and wall bracing...

I also like the windows in the left and right sections - much better looking than the solid upper section of the middle wall...

 

[Deuce]

And so should you, but Trump did not give false emergency weather information unless you're under the delusion that this weather map from
NOLA is fake.....

Your link is broken.

The stuff Trump showed was outdated information. When he tweeted things out, he was three days behind, which, again, is why the Alabama Weather Service immediately contradicted him.

Trump has quintupled-down by posting YET ANOTHER graphic that is even older than the one he drew on with a sharpie. The man just can't admit a flaw, and neither can you.

 

[Deuce]

Note the date on this map issued by the NHC on 8-28-19.
Alabama, was as Trump said, in the original path of trajectory....

Yes, and talking about that data on September 1st is a bad plan. Understand now?

 

[Deuce]

You don't know if it was Trump or who it was who drew a circle on a map which showed the original trajectory of Dorian?
Why are you making this up? When there are earlier statements issued from Trump where he commented on the new direction of this storm on Sept. 3rd?

Donald J. Trump on Twitter: "The U.S. may be getting a little bit lucky with respect to Hurricane Dorian, but please don’t let down your guard. As it heads up the coast, lots of very bad and unpredictable things can happen! On the other hand, the Bahamas have been devastated. We are sending crews to help!"

You're saying one of the staffers did it and he wasn't aware? That's your claim?

 

[Deuce]

What a weird response. :lol:

Land of the free, unless you want to criticize a dumb thing Trump did, then you're THE ENEMY RRARAARGH!

 

[SkyFox76]

Note the date on this map issued by the NHC on 8-28-19.
Alabama, was as Trump said, in the original path of trajectory....

You're posting a map with the obvious date of Thurs Sept 29 and claiming it was issued on Sept 28th? You're trying to suggest that the potus falsely including Alabama on SEPTEMBER 1ST in the path of Dorian was accurate because of a map that was then three days old? Its not even like he was using a map from 6 hours earlier. The country was told he was being updated hourly. There are a lot of hours between the map you're using and his claim. Show us the map for Sept 1.

 

[JasperL]

Map dated August 29

Why are you presenting a map three days old when Trump predicted Alabama would be hit by Dorian? Surely as POTUS he got a current map that morning, one dated September 1 and at most a few hours old, and it didn't show that.

Do you really think gaslighting will work here? Are we supposed to ignore the date and pretend that it doesn't matter? What exactly are you arguing if not that?

 

[sjmay]

This is amusing, all the snowflake liberals, going OMG he did this.....how dare he....

Simple question to all of you who are OUTRAGED by this,

At any point, was the storm projected to hit Alabama? Yes or no,

If Yes,

Then, what he said on Sunday the 1st, was outdated, that is it, and it being the weekend, holiday weekend, who knows when he found out about the trajectory change, considering it wasn't going to hit landfall until sometime Monday, It's entirely feasbile that Trump woke up on Sunday and tweeted without checking.

Either way, the fact that you are making this into a huge deal, is stunning, but expected.

 

[JasperL]

And so should you, but Trump did not give false emergency weather information unless you're under the delusion that this weather map from
NOLA is fake.....

It's not fake, just outdated and irrelevant when Trump gave out emergency weather information. Or do you think what should matter to people isn't the CURRENT prediction about where the storm will hit, but predictions from THREE DAYS PRIOR?

Should Trump still be telling people in southern Florida to evacuate the east coast now that the storm has passed them to the north? That sounds kind of dumb given the storm has passed them, but that's essentially what you're arguing!

 

[Kreton]

5th thread on same subject?!? Man, people are running out of comments ... unless they're liberals ... they like to repeat themselves ... :lol:

How many threads did we have on the huge issues like the yellow snowflakes got scared because a movie depicted someone being hunted.

Or Biden said the wrong state.

 

[JasperL]

Note the date on this map issued by the NHC on 8-28-19.
Alabama, was as Trump said , in the original path of trajectory....

Right, the map is dated Wednesday, August 28. Trump said this on Sunday September 1.

In addition to Florida - South Carolina, North Carolina, Georgia, and Alabama, will most likely be hit (much) harder than anticipated. Looking like one of the largest hurricanes ever. Already category 5. BE CAREFUL! GOD BLESS EVERYONE!

Trump didn't say it was in the "original path" but was "most likely" going to be hit, based on information available to him on Sept 1. Why do you think maps dated Wednesday are relevant to that prediction on Sunday?

 

[sjmay]

Right, the map is dated Wednesday, August 28. Trump said this on Sunday September 1.



Trump didn't say it was in the "original path" but was "most likely" going to be hit, based on information available to him on Sept 1. Why do you think maps dated Wednesday are relevant to that prediction on Sunday?

Sorry, where do you get the bolded from?

 

[SkyFox76]

Interesting you use an article from August 29th to back up predictions Trump made on Sept 1 after cancelling his visit to stay on top of the storm. Why not an article from the date he made the prediction, given that we can assume POTUS was briefed using then-current maps, not maps old and outdated by several days and were then worthless?

Because she can't. She can't even look at the map she's using and see it's dated Sept 29, not 28. :doh

 

[Deuce]

Sorry, where do you get the bolded from?

The fact that he made the statement on Sept 1?

 

[SkyFox76]

Don't you have an impending wildfire to go die in? HAHAHA - Just kidding.

I already asked her how quick she'd laugh off an incorrect report that put her area in the direct path of a wildfire. Never saw an answer.

 

[sjmay]

The fact that he made the statement on Sept 1?

Ok great, I want to know what information he thinks Trump had on a holiday weekend Sunday morning?

Curious, is it even possible for him to have tweeted that, then go into a briefing and be told that the trajectory changed?

Or is that just not in the realm of possibility here?

 

[SMTA]

Right, the map is dated Wednesday, August 28. Trump said this on Sunday September 1.



Trump didn't say it was in the "original path" but was "most likely" going to be hit, based on information available to him on Sept 1. Why do you think maps dated Wednesday are relevant to that prediction on Sunday?

Fantastic effort kissing Trump's lying ass whilst trying to cover his lying ignorance.

 

[SkyFox76]

Are you proud of yourself here?

There is a huge CA wildfire about 55 miles from me.
This is nothing to clown around about.
‘Tenaja Fire’ Near Murrieta Grows to 1,400 Acres; Evacuations in Place | KTLA

And you'd be good with somebody inaccurately saying the fire is heading to your house even if its not, right?

 

[Deuce]

Ok great, I want to know what information he thinks Trump had on a holiday weekend Sunday morning?

Curious, is it even possible for him to have tweeted that, then go into a briefing and be told that the trajectory changed?

Or is that just not in the realm of possibility here?

He's the president of the United States and there is an active major hurricane affecting his country. He can get up to the second information any time he wants. Holiday weekend is a red herring you are dishonestly presenting. That doesn't matter, the NWS isn't closed for holidays.

Yes, Trump was absolutely not aware at the time that Alabama had been "in the clear" for a couple days already. It's dumb to do that without current information, but the bulk of the criticism is not based on this. The bulk of the criticism is based on Trump trying to retroactively claim he was right all along by showing us falsified weather forecasts.

 

[JasperL]

Trump said the original forecast showed Alabama was in the path of Dorian... see date on map on image dated 8-28-19.

That's not what he said. Let's go to the tape:

Donald J. Trump ✔@realDonaldTrump
In addition to Florida - South Carolina, North Carolina, Georgia, and Alabama, will most likely be hit (much) harder than anticipated. Looking like one of the largest hurricanes ever. Already category 5. BE CAREFUL! GOD BLESS EVERYONE!

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10:51 AM - Sep 1, 2019

Note the date he made this warning. You can't honestly discuss the event by lying about what Trump claimed.

 

[Torus34]

"Curiouser and curiouser, ...". Alice in Wonderland. Lewis Carroll.

 

[JasperL]

Do you really delude yourself into believing the president used a sharpie on a map which showed the original trajectory of Dorian?

Who knows who did it? Some idiot, Trump or a bootlicking staff member, altered the map with somehow. Might not have been a sharpie, could have been using Photoshop or the equivalent, but there is no question that map was incompetently altered to add that little bubble at the end.

 

[sjmay]

He's the president of the United States and there is an active major hurricane affecting his country. He can get up to the second information any time he wants. Holiday weekend is a red herring you are dishonestly presenting. That doesn't matter, the NWS isn't closed for holidays.

Yes, Trump was absolutely not aware at the time that Alabama had been "in the clear" for a couple days already. It's dumb to do that without current information, but the bulk of the criticism is not based on this. The bulk of the criticism is based on Trump trying to retroactively claim he was right all along by showing us falsified weather forecasts.

But he was right, the ORIGNAL forecast, had Alabama at the end of the cone, did it not?

He's not trying to retroactively claim anything...it's a simple question, did the original forecast had Alabama in the path, yes or no? It's been made abundantly clear, that yes, it did.

So there was nothing falsified.