Trump Dilemma if he doesn't get the nominee.

[cabse5]

I think if Trump loses legitimately I think he will step down. If he is muscled out by other rich and powerful people running the party I think he will do everything in his power to destroy the party. He clearly knows how to manipulate the media to get attention. If he is pushed out by rich and powerful people like himself with nothing to lose I think he will use his ability to influence the media to destroy any republican candidate. If he believes that can best be done by running as a third party he will do it. This is one of the things I like about him. His willingness to actually do something rather than be a politically correct puppet. A possible strong leader this country desperately needs. The question is whether he would lead us to a better country for We the People or nowhere which is where we have going lately.

I voted other. If Trump loses fairly, he'll accept it. If his delegate lead is substantial at the time of the convention but not enough for him to gain the nominee threshhold, there will be a fuss if he's not the GOP nominee. As he's said.

Trump has shown a prescient distrust of the party elite from day one. Maybe 'cause he's been asked to do the same things as a candidate that he's asked candidates to do for him as a member of the party elite?

 

[SenorXm/Sirius]

We're on the same page. I boggles my brain cells that he has become as popular as he has.

ETA: *IF* he were to become President, I can easily see him becoming bored after six months or so, especially after the "honeymoon" ends.

As thin skinned as he is? Oh yeah, I can see after his supporters abandon him because he can't/won't do anything he promised, and everyone in government turned on him he'd get so PO'ed after 6-12 months he'd want out. Or he'd be so PO'ed he'd flip out, then do and say so many stupid things and make so many stupid threats, that he would get thrown out.

 

[SHOOTER]

the RNC does not need any help destroying the republican party,the party rules it is all about the party rules,which are ok because they have always been ok ,really
so the disenfranchisement of million of voters means nothing it is all about the rules,well you can bet your biffie if the RNC prevails and pushes TRUMP out they will assure clinton's election.
the very idea that TRUMP will try and destroy the party is laughable,the RNC is brain dead they are doing a fine job they need no help.
run don rue

 

[Phys251]

If he is not nominated by a split convention, I think many racist whites will cause civil unrest in retaliation. I'm not even kidding about this.

 

[SHOOTER]

If they steal it from him then there will be a lot of protests and Hillary would certainly become President.

i thank TRUMP can win a third party bid,i sure will not vote for the RNC's chosen one,look at the math ,23% of all reg. voters are republican,lets say TRUMP has 10% of that vote,that leaves 13% of the reg vote to vote for the RNC's choice , i thank TRUMP could win a third party bid or beat a republican backed third party candidate.


RUN DON RUN

 

[clownboy]

It just doesn't matter. For the thousandth time if the so-called conservative assholes at the GOP pull this ****, taking the nomination away from Trump, there will no longer be a GOP, they will lose everything.

 

[Zyphlin]

Neither one of us know what was discussed and promised by RNC, the republican national committee and essentially "the party" from an organization level.

Sure we do.

The rules regarding how the primary process and the convention is set to go are publicly available to anyone, including Donald Trump, online. Here, you can give it a look yourself.

Now TECHNICALLY, by those rules, it would still be within bounds to change the rules at the convention itself...however, that would more reasonably be considered dirty dealing it would be accurate to say any newly adopted rules were not known to all at the start of this process and thus could change previous answers.

But so long as the rules in question remain as they were prior to this...rules publicly known and available to Donald Trump...if he LOSES because he FAILED, then that's on him.

And I ask you again.

Do you have proof that the RNC has attacked him or been critical of him?

Or do you mean that anyone who is part of the GOP...ie the Republicans...IE DONALD TRUMP HIMSELF...who is critical of a candidate running in the primary is acting wrongfully?

 

[Zyphlin]

It just doesn't matter. For the thousandth time if the so-called conservative assholes at the GOP pull this ****, taking the nomination away from Trump, there will no longer be a GOP, they will lose everything.

"Pull this ****"? You mean dealing with reality if Donald Trump FAILS to get the necessary votes and then FAILS at convincing enough freed delegates to vote for him, as was the process clearly laid out before he ever entered the race?

Yes, I'm sure that's "Pulling ****" :roll: That's about as laughable as a massive Donald Trump supporter going on about anyones so called conservatism.

 

[clownboy]

"Pull this ****"? You mean dealing with reality if Donald Trump FAILS to get the necessary votes and then FAILS at convincing enough freed delegates to vote for him, as was the process clearly laid out before he ever entered the race?

Yes, I'm sure that's "Pulling ****" :roll: That's about as laughable as a massive Donald Trump supporter going on about anyones so called conservatism.

Of course not, and that's where you're way off base in your reply. If Trump were to legitimately lose the nomination, by failing to receive the required delegate count before the convention and then losing to Cruz in the second, third, fifth vote at the convention, I don't have a problem with that. Cruz is the only other candidate under current rules who would be eligible at convention.

You know the **** I'm talking about. And you know the so-called "conservative" faction of the GOP establishment is doing their best to sink this popular candidate. You can't hide from that fact.

 

[PIPEWRENCH]

I will wait and see how it plays out. I have not made any decision yet. It looks as if Hillary will still win for the democrats forcing me to vote for just about anyone the republicans pick. It would have been nice to have to sit down and decide between to good candidates.

 

[jamesrage]

That is not the Republicans "screwing" Trump. That is TRUMP screwing Trump, because those are the rules HE agreed to by running in the Republican Party.

The rules of this race were NEVER, "he who wins a plurality of the delegates wins". it was "he who wins the majority of the delegates wins".

If Trump doesn't win the majority of delegates before the convention then he LOST when it came to the election season, no different than Jeb Bush or Rick Santorum or Ron Paul. Because you either get a majority of your lose as it relates to the initial vote; those were the rules Trump agreed to by signing on.

If he fails to make a compelling enough argument during the primary to garner a majority of delegates, that's on him. That's him screwing himself, not the GOP doing it.

And then, if a brokered convention occurs, and Trump...because of his attitude, because of his campaign, because of his history in terms of political positions, etc...is unable to convince enough delegates that HE should be the nominee, then again he loses. And he loses according to the rules HE agreed to.

That is not someone "screwing" him, other than himself.

You can argue all you want about how if he doesn't get the requited number of delegates that the republicans are free to give the nomination to who ever other than Trump. But the way average voters see it. If Trump gets more votes than anyone else in the primary election and the republicans use a brokered convention to give the nomination to someone who got less votes than Trump it is the GOP screwing Trump the average voter will see it as the the RINO establishment saying **** you voters we will give the nomination to our guy.

 

[Tonawanda]

Now, if you're talking about the RNC, the republican national committee and essentially "the party" from an organization level, do you have any evidence or links you can provide of the RNC criticizing him or pulling support from him?

Who is the party from an organizational level?

Short of following the rules, what support are you referring to?

 

[Dogger807]

I think what it will really boil down too is if the the GOP establishment is stupid enough to pull a fast one and steal the nomination. I don't think for one second that Trump won't see that as an insult and he's known for his childishness when responding to perceived insults. And since republicans aren't know for acting intelligent or logical, I can see them doing something they consider sneaky, then call foul when Trump runs as a third party.


As for Trump winning... well he has about a third of the republican party as voters and no one else. Anyone who thinks he has a wide appeal with the populace is living in the figurative bubble.

 

[LaylaWindu]

Warning, pure speculation to follow: I am still not convinced that he even wants to be President. If it weren't for his campaign taking off, and hence his huge ego being stroked like it never has been before, I think he'd have dropped out long ago.

I believe that if he doesn't get the Rep nomination, he will not run 3rd party/independent.

See that's exactly why I think he will run no matter what, his campaign taking off and his huge ego.

 

[bubbabgone]

See that's exactly why I think he will run no matter what, his campaign taking off and his huge ego.

so if Trump gets the nom and the stoptrump gang of neocons run a 3rd Party candidate, that'd be a noble effort?

 

[LaylaWindu]

so if Trump gets the nom and the stoptrump gang of neocons run a 3rd Party candidate, that'd be a noble effort?

Who said that? I definitely lean right and I don't support trump or Cruz. I find them to both be lunatics. The only good thing that will probably come form this election is that it may start the REAL break of the two party system and maybe in the next two generations it will finally break. I doubt it fully happens in my life time though.

 

[SDET]

Seems like there's lots of talk about Trump, whether he will get the nominee or if some of the GOP will push to somehow not give it to him and give it to Cruz. This isn't about if they actually can, this isn't about if it will be Cruz and this isn't about if he will get the nominee.

My question is simple:

If Trump doesn't obtain the republican nominee do you really think he wouldn't run for president anyway?
Yes he will still run
No he will not run
Other


I personally think he will run regardless and if he does get it I think somebody else like Cruz will also run cause the GOP hopes to go from highly unlikely to impossible.

Trump might try, but when he sees in how few states he would make it on to the ballot, he will give up. I suspect that Trump will endorse Hillary Clinton if he doesn't get the GOP nomination.

 

[bubbabgone]

Who said that? I definitely lean right and I don't support trump or Cruz. I find them to both be lunatics. The only good thing that will probably come form this election is that it may start the REAL break of the two party system and maybe in the next two generations it will finally break. I doubt it fully happens in my life time though.

Conservative pundit Bill Kristol is pushing for a third-party challenge to Republican front-runner Donald Trump.

Donald Trump 2016: RNC rebukes Bill Kristol on anti-Trump efforts - POLITICO

 

[LaylaWindu]

Donald Trump 2016: RNC rebukes Bill Kristol on anti-Trump efforts - POLITICO

Uhm sorry you lost me? what does this have to do with me or my post?

 

[bubbabgone]

Who said that? I definitely lean right and I don't support trump or Cruz. I find them to both be lunatics. The only good thing that will probably come form this election is that it may start the REAL break of the two party system and maybe in the next two generations it will finally break. I doubt it fully happens in my life time though.

bill-kristol-third-party[/B]-rnc-response-221035]Donald Trump 2016: RNC rebukes Bill Kristol on anti-Trump efforts - POLITICO

Uhm sorry you lost me? what does this have to do with me or my post?

It was intended to be a response to "Who said that?" referring to a 3rd party run being a good thing.

 

[LaylaWindu]

It was intended to be a response to "Who said that?" referring to a 3rd party run being a good thing.

? That's confusing to me. Not trying to be a smartass I promise but you quoted me and asked me a question. You asked me if "I" thought running a 3rd Party candidate, would be a noble effort?
So when I asked, who said that, it meant why would you think "I" feel that way since I didn't suggest that. So then to answer me you post a quote from some other random person who has nothing to do with me? You understand that doesn't make much sense at all right?

It would basically be like if you made a post about how you love yellow, I quote it, and asked, so I guess that means you hate blue then? Then you ask me who said that and I post some random person saying they hate blue and love yellow.

Again I swear I'm not being a smart ass but that really makes no sense to me. It's VERY random and has nothing to do with what I said.

 

[lenski7]

I think Trump will stay in the race, his ego says he is winning in every state, winning every debate, and winning in every poll against Hillary Clinton, and Bernie Sanders. He can't lose in his mind, I think no matter what happens this election, the GOP will most likely fracture, the Establishment was grown too big, and they have to be kicked out, this would be the most extreme way to do it, you would lose a lot of power that way though, imagine the Constitution Party growing the Libertarian Party growing, and an old establishment sheeple GOP sitting around, 3 separate parties, who would argue with one another, could cause power struggle, and ultimately give the Democratic Party more power. Of course, they would still be united on some issues, but not all.

Also, he might as well revoke his pledge not to run 3rd party, he revoked his promise to support the GOP nominee

 

[haymarket]

If Trump loses by the voting results, he will step aside and go on with life.

If Trump loses by GOP interference.......Katy Bar The Door!......because Trump supporters will burn down the GOP.

Let us hope so.

 

[rocket88]

If Trump loses by the voting results, he will step aside and go on with life.

I don't believe that for a second

 

[rocket88]

It was intended to be a response to "Who said that?" referring to a 3rd party run being a good thing.

Of course numerous parties will have candidates regardless...which I expect the 2 party sheeple to ignore.