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Trump abruptly escorted from briefing after shooting near WH

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I love the "Communist" accusations.

Crazy, those who favored integration were labeled "Communist".

This racist code word is almost 70 years old.

Sad that ignorant, racist, POS can't think of anything new.



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You've proven my comment was correct.

Not always right
But never wrong

Darn right you are... ;)
It's like taking candy from a toddler.
 
I love the "Communist" accusations.

Crazy, those who favored integration were labeled "Communist".

This racist code word is almost 70 years old.

Sad that ignorant, racist, POS can't think of anything new.



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I will give consideration to the above when the liberals stop calling those who oppose their politics,--- racists, Nazi(s), cultists, sexists, xenophobes, fascists... Shall I keep going with my list of pejoratives?
 
I will give consideration to the above when the liberals stop calling those who oppose their politics,--- racists, Nazi(s), cultists, sexists, xenophobes, fascists... Shall I keep going with my list of pejoratives?
U am sure they will when the radical right stops behaving that way.

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U am sure they will when the radical right stops behaving that way.

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So you really weren't interested in having an intelligent conversation where we could find some common ground.

You're dismissed.
 
Zero Trump assassinations, you say?

You sure about this?

Man gets 18 months in prison for threatening to kill Trump

The rest of your post is partisan jabberwocky.

You said "assassination attempt." What you cited is a threat. Words have meanings.

Besides, if threats were assassination attempts (they're not), how many assassination attempts would you guess were made on Obama? (Answer: a lot).

For the record, there were zero assassination attempts on Obama. The last assassination attempt (unsuccessful) on a sitting US President was by John Warnock Hinckley Jr. when he tried killing Ronald Reagan in 1981.

So...now that you know that threats and assassination attempts aren't the same thing, maybe you'll see that the rest of my post wasn't "jabberwocky."
 
The shooting occurred at the intersection of 17th Street and Pennsylvania Ave. just outside White House grounds. The USSS officer and the male subject were both transported to the hospital.


@SecretService
Update: the investigation into a USSS officer involved shooting is ongoing. A male subject and a USSS officer were both transported to a local hospital. At no time during this incident was the White House complex breached or were any protectees in danger.
7:57 PM · Aug 10, 2020·Twitter for iPhone

If you care to follow this story, the link below directs you to the USSS twitter page.

https://twitter.com/SecretService?r...trump-escorted-out-white-house-press-briefing
 
So you really weren't interested in having an intelligent conversation where we could find some common ground.

You're dismissed.
I don't speak for "liberals" whomever they are and ⁰I don't generalize based on politics except to make a point.

You claim to want an intelligent discussion but post blindly partisan crap full of generalizations and lies.I don't speak for "liberals" whomever they are.

You defend impeached trump as he defunds social security while blaming "the swamp" / congress...lol

Don't pretend to be above the partisan bs and have the desire for an intelligent conversation.

You are not, and don't.


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I don't speak for "liberals" whomever they are and ⁰I don't generalize based on politics except to make a point.

You claim to want an intelligent discussion but post blindly partisan crap full of generalizations and lies.I don't speak for "liberals" whomever they are.

You defend impeached trump as he defunds social security while blaming "the swamp" / congress...lol

Don't pretend to be above the partisan bs and have the desire for an intelligent conversation.

You are not, and don't.


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I'm not a partisan. I simply showed you the error in your argument.
You don't have to accept my explanation, like it, or even read it.
 
Yes, words have meanings, and yours are a game of playing semantics. You said there were zero, so own your words.

So what did that person do past the threat stage? If nothing, it isn't an "attempt," just a threat.

You know how you can tell when a person has made an "attempt? They tend to stay in prison for a real real real real real real long long time. The guy who made the threat is serving 30 months. Hinkley by contrast served 35 years in prison.


When you originally referred to assassination attempts, did you have foreign assassination attempts in mind?
 
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Probably so. Makes me wonder how many assassination attempts have been made on his life so far.

List of United States presidential assassination attempts and plots - Wikipedia

Take away from this Wikipedia article what you will it lumps attempts and plots together so you can split hairs on what needs to happen to be considered an attempt with another poster if you desire. But according to the article there has been 3 credible attempts/plots agianst Trump. Fyi Obama has four listed and Clinton has the most of any recent president with 5.
 
Trump abruptly escorted from briefing after shooting near WH




I would be interested to know why the President was removed from the premises when the shooting took place blocks from the WH. More of a threat than meets the eye? Better to err on the side of caution?

Comments, speculations anyone?

I think it was a slow news day. I think everyone had to get in on the shooter outside of the White House act.
No one knows what happened but the White House press just had to quiz Trump on what he knew.
And Trump did not know squat but he stood there and took questions about a shooting he knew nothing about.
I started yelling at the TV (even the BBC) to let the damned reporters do their job and get back to the briefing.
It appeared the shooting had nothing to do with the White House.
 
Probably so. Makes me wonder how many assassination attempts have been made on his life so far.

Did you ever learn how many attempts were made on Obama's life?
It's a good thing the public never knew.
 
The Secret Service is very cautious even with Presidents that are liked or loved.

S.S. needs to worry about people with mental illnesses that may want to harm even a liked or loved President.

A hated President ups the possibility of more people potentially wanting to harm a President.

It is something to wonder about concerning this President since there were actors and some other out spoken haters that actually mentioned thinking about harming Trump.

Roseann:)

And Garfield, McKinley, and Lincoln weren't even considered harmful and look what happened to them.
 
You said "assassination attempt." What you cited is a threat. Words have meanings.

Besides, if threats were assassination attempts (they're not), how many assassination attempts would you guess were made on Obama? (Answer: a lot).

For the record, there were zero assassination attempts on Obama. The last assassination attempt (unsuccessful) on a sitting US President was by John Warnock Hinckley Jr. when he tried killing Ronald Reagan in 1981.

So...now that you know that threats and assassination attempts aren't the same thing, maybe you'll see that the rest of my post wasn't "jabberwocky."

You really believe you can distinguish an attempt from a threat?

Assassination threats against Barack Obama

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Assassination threats against Barack Obama - Wikipedia
 
Probably so. Makes me wonder how many assassination attempts have been made on his life so far.

Probably not more than any other president. We also do not know the story behind this particular incident yet. From what I gather is a guy told the secret service person he had a weapon, and then charged him. Apparently the idiot was also unarmed.

So, you can't count this as an assassination attempt. It sounds more like a failed suicide by secret service .
 
Yes, words have meanings, and yours are a game of playing semantics. You said there were zero, so own your words.



Secret Service Saved Trump From Attempted Assassination

You asked how many "attempts", as in an actual attack or assault. Threatening a President is not same as attempting to assassinate a President. The Secret Service is constantly investigating "threats" against the President as they are not an uncommon thing at all no matter who is President. I can assure you there probably isn't a week that goes by where there is not at least one. Why are conservatives so damn illiterate?
 
You really believe you can distinguish an attempt from a threat?

Assassination threats against Barack Obama

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Assassination threats against Barack Obama - Wikipedia

Shouldn't be all that hard to do if you know how to use a dictionary.

"Definition of attempt (Entry 1 of 2)
transitive verb

1: to make an effort to do, accomplish, solve, or effect
He attempted to swim the swollen river.

2: ATTACK, ASSAULT
an attempt on the life of the president

threat noun
\ ˈthret \
Definition of threat
1: an expression of intention to inflict evil, injury, or damage
2: one that threatens
3: an indication of something impending
the sky held a threat of rain
 
Trump abruptly escorted from briefing after shooting near WH




I would be interested to know why the President was removed from the premises when the shooting took place blocks from the WH. More of a threat than meets the eye? Better to err on the side of caution?

Comments, speculations anyone?

Probably SOP for the Secret Service. Especially given the current environment.

Unrelated to the topic, but I had just been watching and wondering again how Joe would do in those regular media clatchs.
It would be very ugly so I suspect they wouldn't let him.
On the other hand, yesterday would have given him a perfect opportunity to make up another personal story.
Ya know, something cool like in White House Down or Olympus Has Fallen with the Cornpop gang as the perps.
 
That is the job of the Secret Service, Trump has very little ability to question when they decide action is needed.

As for the shooting it is way too early to know what happened or why.

After the riot they staged in Lafayette Park, I’m quite sure I wasn’t the only one who didn’t suspect that this might be one of Trump’s “law and order” stunts.
 
Shouldn't be all that hard to do if you know how to use a dictionary.

"Definition of attempt (Entry 1 of 2)
transitive verb

1: to make an effort to do, accomplish, solve, or effect
He attempted to swim the swollen river.

2: ATTACK, ASSAULT
an attempt on the life of the president

threat noun
\ ˈthret \
Definition of threat
1: an expression of intention to inflict evil, injury, or damage
2: one that threatens
3: an indication of something impending
the sky held a threat of rain

Some of the synonyms show a distinction without a difference.
John Kerry would say it is 'more nuanced' than you would care to admit.
 
Trump abruptly escorted from briefing after shooting near WH




I would be interested to know why the President was removed from the premises when the shooting took place blocks from the WH. More of a threat than meets the eye? Better to err on the side of caution?

Comments, speculations anyone?

I'm sure it was a precaution. The initial reports of this kind of thing are always chaotic Reports of a 'shooting near the White House' would justify following the procedure for protection of the president, until law enforcement on the scene can verify the location and status of the shooter. The Secret Service likely also does a check of the perimeter to ensure it isn't a distraction.

As a side note, I really dislike that some insinuate that the President is 'frightened' or 'a coward' when moved due to a potential threat. The secret service has protocols, and the safest action is to follow those. We don't want the president to second guess these, or take how it might look into consideration. (And yes, I had exactly the same opinion with Obama).
 
Probably SOP for the Secret Service. Especially given the current environment.

Unrelated to the topic, but I had just been watching and wondering again how Joe would do in those regular media clatchs.
It would be very ugly so I suspect they wouldn't let him.
On the other hand, yesterday would have given him a perfect opportunity to make up another personal story.
Ya know, something cool like in White House Down or Olympus Has Fallen with the Cornpop gang as the perps.

I'm not sure if I am posting this twitter video correctly but here's trying... Enjoy!
https://twitter.com/i/status/1293230899702591489
 
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