Trump’s border czar says he’s sending National Guard to fight LA anti-ICE protests as clashes continue into second day

[CaughtInThe]

Fox News is just so genius in how they present everything...

 

[JMB1911A1]

They're arresting people here legally. That's the problem. They're calling people in for routine immigration hearings and arresting them before they get to the hearings. That's problem.

Well, in that case, that makes throwing Molotov cocktails at law enforcement OK. Why didn’t you say that first?

Yes, that is sarcasm.

 

[What if...?]

Except for immigration laws but your side seems to think those shouldn’t count.

Can you explain why republicans have never gone after those who employ them? Not some little restaurant owner. Big agriculture, meat processing. They knew exactly where they were being employed.

And never did a damn thing to enforce the laws against them more than could be explained as getting rid of a donor’s competition.

They also oppose e-verify.

Coms blow spittle at us once you engage on how you feel about that part that was left out of your rage list.

 

[BirdinHand]

Except for immigration laws but your side seems to think those shouldn’t count.

They’re grabbing people who are following the legal process.

They are grabbing the children of people that are following the process and attending hearings.

Our immigration system is broken. It is complex and not easy to navigate. People fall out of status and become “undocumented” for something as simple as not returning a piece of mail on time.

The bullshit we are watching unfold is not only unnecessary, but also is costly and serves no benefit to average Americans.

What does snatching up restaurant owners in NJ that have been in a legal process for YEARS serve for average Americans? What does grabbing a teenager driving his Dads car serve? What does grabbing a child and father that attend a hearing serve?

What have any of those individuals done other than work, pay taxes, contribute to their communities?

Millions of immigrants work, pay taxes, abide laws, contribute to their communities - run businesses, provide goods and services, etc.


ICE isn’t grabbing hardened criminals - they’re grabbing people’s neighbors, friends and families.

And they’re doing it while masked, cosplaying militia and wearing military gear and acting like the god damned Gestapo. Not presenting ID. Not presenting warrants. Not following due process.


Why are you running cover for it?


Why aren’t they going after the massive employers who employ people that are out of status?

Why aren’t they passing an everify mandate?

Why aren’t they dragging executives out of company boardrooms for employing undocumented and individuals that are out of status?

Why aren’t they cracking down on the abuse of the H1B classification?

 

[JMB1911A1]

Can you explain why republicans have never gone after those who employ them? Not some little restaurant owner. Big agriculture, meat processing. They knew exactly where they were being employed.

And never did a damn thing to enforce the laws against them more than could be explained as getting rid of a donor’s competition.

They also oppose e-verify.

Coms blow spittle at us once you engage on how you feel about that part that was left out of your rage list.

Honestly, all those employers should be punished as the law states. I have no problem with that and never had.

Sorry, did I just burst your bubble?

 

[What if...?]

Well, in that case, that makes throwing Molotov cocktails at law enforcement OK. Why didn’t you say that first?

Yes, that is sarcasm.

I find it impossible to believe that the y’all love the founding fathers and masked people with no badges and unmarked cars stomping around grabbing fry cooks and dishwashers… at the same time.

The Constitution is literally an anti tyrant system. They went down the list of the tools of tyrants and forbade them to our government. Masked, uncredentialed thugs have been a component of the rise and maintenance of every single modern tyranny.

And not a single one of you I’ve seen in these threads has come close to acknowledging that our anger isn’t about the issue of immigration but the tactics being employed to address it. Nor the glaring absence of operations against the employers that have hundreds working for them at multiple locations

They could have filled their 3000 a day by doing that.

Instead they’re grabbing a handful at a time in what looks like dominance theater.

All that armor and drama to grab a dishwasher and a fry cook and a waitress that had been a contributing member of that neighborhood for years.

You should send them a note telling them to look at big agro, because they either completely missed that bulk deportation opportunity…or did so on purpose.

 

[Tangmo]

Token lead elements of the Guard began arriving in LA approximately an hour ago, 4 a.m. local time.





These federalized Guard troops are subject to Posse Comitatus which means they cannot do law enforcement. They cannot act as ICE or as any federal agents of the law.

The NG are activated federally without the request or agreement of local and state authorities, the governor in particular who is commander in chief of the NG unless it is federalized which as we know has occurred. Gov. Newsome objects strongly in fact.

Trump's activation is for up to 60 dayze although the SecDef Hegseth The Horrible can adjust the time period if he wants to do so.

LAPD said "a number of people" were arrested overnight after reentering a prohibited area they had left. There were no incidents of resistance.

As the NG begins to arrive in the Paramount section of LA it seems most demonstrators had retired to their neighborhood watering holes to exchange war stories.

 

[Emlee]

When you hear the entire clip in context she was talking about taking responsibility for having a process that didn't allow for more power for the Speaker and the Capitol police. She subsequently had the processes changed to ensure more accountability and authorities

However none of that changes the fact that Trump had the authority, the power and the means to quell the riot on January 6th and he consciously and deliberately chose not to. How Trumpers can support this move by Trump in LA and yet defend his actions Jan 6th is disgusting.

Exactly

Just one more thing that was cherry picked, taken out of context, amplified by dear leader and mindlessly parroted throughout the magasphere.

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Fuller Context:

Video footage from January 6, 2021, recorded by Nancy Pelosi’s daughter, Alexandra, shows Pelosi expressing frustration over the lack of National Guard presence at the Capitol during the riot. In the clips, she says, “I take responsibility for not having them just prepare for more” and “We have totally failed. We need to take some responsibility for not moving to secure.”

These statements have been interpreted by some, particularly Republicans, as Pelosi admitting fault for the security failures that day. The footage was obtained by the House Administration’s Subcommittee on Oversight from HBO and released in June and August 2024.

However, context is critical.

As House Speaker, Pelosi did not have direct authority over Capitol security or the deployment of the National Guard.

The Capitol Police Board, consisting of the House Sergeant at Arms, Senate Sergeant at Arms, and Architect of the Capitol, is responsible for such decisions. The National Guard can only be deployed by the President, Secretary of Defense, or Army Secretary. Records show that Pelosi approved a request from the House Sergeant at Arms to seek National Guard support at 1:40 p.m. on January 6, about 30 minutes after rioters breached the Capitol, though Pentagon delays meant troops arrived four hours later.

Pelosi’s statements in the footage reflect her frustration with the lack of preparedness by security officials, not a formal admission of legal or operational responsibility.

She also criticized Capitol Police leadership and emphasized that the focus should remain on former President Donald Trump’s role in inciting the riot. Multiple fact-checks, including by PolitiFact and The Associated Press, confirm that Pelosi was not responsible for security decisions and did not block National Guard deployment. Claims otherwise, often pushed by Trump and his supporters, lack evidence and misrepresent her role.

In summary, while Pelosi expressed regret for not pushing for better preparation, she did not have the authority to deploy the National Guard, and her comments do not equate to taking full blame for the security failures on January 6.

The narrative that she was primarily responsible is a distortion, as security decisions rested with the Capitol Police Board and Pentagon officials

 

[bythoughts]

Both sides are playing with fire here. Older folks here have seen how Los Angeles can erupt into an immensely destructive wave of violence. Pretending that obstructing the ICE is going to be treated as freedom of speech does no one any good, especially not those who believe it. And sending 2000 National Guards that can't do law enforcement to provoke the people could easily generate well over 2000 National Guards' worth of chaos... then what? Meanwhile, the incredible amount of mission creep we've seen in the ICE really is going to do a number on things: are they there to arrest illegal immigrants, or visa holders and green card holders who protest on behalf of the illegal immigrants or have family members who commit criminal acts? What sounds like a limited number of troops for a targeted legal mission could turn into a ham-fisted all out war with half the city.

 

[Tangmo]

First thingy the lead Guard units are shown doing on arriving in LA is to create a new parking lot. Second is to hit the rest room ha.


National Guard Troops Begin To Crawl Into LA




The first members of the National Guard arrived in Los Angeles early on Sunday morning following President Trump’s order to deploy 2,000 troops in the city after two days of violence and protests. The arrival of these first units isn't exactly Pickett's Charge though izzit.

Doing the NG without the consent or agreement of local and state officials is overbearing and it is wrong. LA Mayor Bass says the Guard is not yet in the streets where they would belong in any event. The Guard is probably still getting their deployment orders which are probably still incomplete, sketchy, spotty. Indeed, this whole Trump-Miller NG thingy is off the wall.

 

[Emlee]

Hegseth threatening to use regular military on civilians with marines.

Not sure which is crazier, calling in the marines or that he actually said “Under President Trump, violence and destruction against federal agents and federal facilities will NOT be tolerated”.

 

[What if...?]

Honestly, all those employers should be punished as the law states. I have no problem with that and never had.

Sorry, did I just burst your bubble?

Not at all.

In fact, I am amused.

Now I’d like you to explain why your stridency is still focused on tormenting fry cooks and not yelling at the top of you lungs that trump could get rid of far more undocumented workers every day by going after employers.

I know why.

Do you?

 

[MTAtech]

Trump border czar says National Guard will head to LA to fight anti-ICE protests

Tense confrontations between police and demonstrators in L.A. continued for a second day on Saturday, in response to operations by Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents

www.independent.co.uk

So either Trump is taking over the national guard and federalizing it by likely enabling the insurrection act (wouldn't be shocking especially with the loyalists he's installed), or Newsome will activate it, which is also not good.

Either way, the federal government is terrozing communities and being the gestapo scum they are and "just following orders" and attacking people rightfully standing against them and their actions.

The head of ICE was demanding people stop being critical of his nazi organization.

They also arrested the head of California's biggest union and assaulted him yesterday while he was protesting ICE and their bullshit raids.

Astonishing. North Carolina has been asking for federal resources to handle the aftermath of hurricanes and tornadoes and has been denied those resources by this administration. Yet, this administration wants to send federal troops to California, that no body asked for, to handle a problem that Californians don’t see as a problem.

 

[JMB1911A1]

Not at all.

In fact, I am amused.

Now I’d like you to explain why your stridency is still focused on tormenting fry cooks and not yelling at the top of you lungs that trump could get rid of far more undocumented workers every day by going after employers.

I know why.

Do you?

Well, unlike liberals, I can advocate for multiple things at once.

My focus right now is rioting going on inLA and attacks on Federal officials doing their jobs. You seem to approve of that.

Don’t bother to reply. I know your responses already. “What about Jan 6?”

 

[j brown's body]

Honestly, all those employers should be punished as the law states. I have no problem with that and never had.

Sorry, did I just burst your bubble?

What a foolish idea. The government is attacking the very people who are keeping our economy going.

 

[MTAtech]

Liberal tears are the sweetest tears.

Which is your only reason to exist. You’d let someone shit in your mouth if it meant a liberal had to smell it.

 

[PIPEWRENCH]

You voted for unidentified armed men grabbing people off the street and disappearing them?

For any reason and with no due process?

Really?

I will never understand the beta personality type.

The buzz of following so strong it addles the brain.

They are trying to protect their families from some of the most violent criminals on this planet who Biden and Harris welcomed into out country. Yet millions when millions of law abiding people wait patiently to legally immigrate here from all over the world. I say we welcome law abiding from all over the world instead of rewarding lawless criminals who enter illegally. The lawless need to be removed while the law abiding take their place.

We saw the attacks on the Jewish governor here in PA by these hateful racist people. It is sad when our law enforcement cannot do their job and enforce the law is some areas of the country due to people who support criminals over law abiding people.

 

[Bodecea]

Yup, Trump and his Nazi scum are taking over the national guard.

It’s happening. Fascism is here.

Also the pieces of shit in the National guard will follow orders no questions asked, they’ll absolutely kill protestors no questions asked.

The fascists in Washington keep pushing real Americans, we are going to wake up...then they'll really see "WOKE".

 

[trixare4kids]

Well, unlike liberals, I can advocate for multiple things at once.

My focus right now is rioting going on inLA and attacks on Federal officials doing their jobs. You seem to approve of that.

Don’t bother to reply. I know your responses already. “What about Jan 6?”

This is what the anti-Trumps are defending.

 

[What if...?]

Our law enforcement people should and will carry out their duties despite the criminals lashing out over it.

Like those assholes a couple centuries ago that committed treason and war crimes?

You know, the Founders. Lawbreakers to a man.

Y’all are gonna be on the wrong side of history. Already are, frankly.

Trump is shitting on the Constitution and y’all are just wiping his ass.

 

[What if...?]

This is what the anti-Trumps are defending.

Tory

 

[ColdHardTruth]

Trump border czar says National Guard will head to LA to fight anti-ICE protests

Tense confrontations between police and demonstrators in L.A. continued for a second day on Saturday, in response to operations by Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents

www.independent.co.uk

So either Trump is taking over the national guard and federalizing it by likely enabling the insurrection act (wouldn't be shocking especially with the loyalists he's installed), or Newsome will activate it, which is also not good.

Either way, the federal government is terrozing communities and being the gestapo scum they are and "just following orders" and attacking people rightfully standing against them and their actions.

The head of ICE was demanding people stop being critical of his nazi organization.

They also arrested the head of California's biggest union and assaulted him yesterday while he was protesting ICE and their bullshit raids.

Homan's traitor ass will be in prison soon enough.

 

[ColdHardTruth]

Oh, don't get me wrong. I hope when ANTIFA starts up the violence like they did yesterday that justice is swift and effective.

There is no ANTIFA. That is a Faux contruct.

Turn the FAUX OFF.

 

[ColdHardTruth]

Could be great news for Neil Young? He hasn't had a hit in 40 years.


That's what an unhinged Liberal would sound like.


That's nonsense.

That's the truth. Sorry you can't handle the truth.

More nonsense.

 

[ColdHardTruth]

That's quite a rant.

It's the truth. Accept it and move on.