Trump’s border czar says he’s sending National Guard to fight LA anti-ICE protests as clashes continue into second day

[Tangmo]

Gibberish nonsense.

I reiterate, conservatives have forfeit any positive contribution they may ever have made to society and modern civilization. Conservatives have become totally antisocial and destructive of modern civilization and they luvit. The thrust of 21st century conservatives has gone over to causing harm, damage, hurt and destruction and the meanness of it. Cruelty is the mode of 21st century conservatives gone loco with their glee over it. All they want is more of it.

 

[Callen]

Too bad he didn't do that on Jan 6th. Apparently he has no problems dispatching the guard on his perceived enemies but clearly that is not how he viewed the rioters at the Capitol, they were his allies, his defenders. He loved what they were doing. Trump had an obligation to defend the Capitol building and failed to uphold his oath of office.

Trumpers defended his decision not to deploy the guard , generally using the untruthful excuse that he didn't have the authority. Now we see those same people defending and praising Trump for deploying the guard in this instance. The hypocrisy is nauseating but worse than the hypocrisy is the refusal to acknowledge the fact Trump could have acted to stop the siege on the Capitol and chose not to thus endangering the lives of all those inside.....every single federally elected official. Except him of course. He is a traitor

 

[VySky]

Too bad he didn't do that on Jan 6th. Apparently he has no problems dispatching the guard on his perceived enemies but clearly that is not how he viewed the rioters at the Capitol, they were his allies, his defenders. He loved what they were doing. Trump had an obligation to defend the Capitol building and failed to uphold his oath of office.

Trumpers defended his decision not to deploy the guard , generally using the untruthful excuse that he didn't have the authority. Now we see those same people defending and praising Trump for deploying the guard in this instance. The hypocrisy is nauseating but worse than the hypocrisy is the refusal to acknowledge the fact Trump could have acted to stop the siege on the Capitol and chose not to thus endangering the lives of all those inside.....every single federally elected official. Except him of course. He is a traitor

Pelosi denied

Nancy Pelosi says ‘I take responsibility’ for not having National Guard at the Capitol on Jan. 6 in video shot by her own daughter​

MSN

 

[Callen]

Pelosi denied

Nancy Pelosi says ‘I take responsibility’ for not having National Guard at the Capitol on Jan. 6 in video shot by her own daughter​

MSN

No matter who did or did not take action prior to the 6th it in NO WAY absolves Trump from taking action that day...period full stop.

 

[Rexedgar]

The USA military does not shoot unarmed civilians and unarmed citizens in the streets tossing rocks and stuff. The armed forces have operational discipline your flash in the pan posts have no idea or clue of.

The officers in command of the deployed NG and their NCO Support Channel through the ranks will not obey or give orders to shoot unarmed civilians to include unarmed citizens and unarmed residents of the USA.

MAGAs popping your corn to the contrary.

How’d that work out in Ohio?

 

[Plasmaball]

The USA military does not shoot unarmed civilians and unarmed citizens in the streets tossing rocks and stuff. The armed forces have operational discipline your flash in the pan posts have no idea or clue of.

The officers in command of the deployed NG and their NCO Support Channel through the ranks will not obey or give orders to shoot unarmed civilians to include unarmed citizens and unarmed residents of the USA.

MAGAs popping your corn to the contrary.

You'll see

 

[Tangmo]

How’d that work out in Ohio?

I cite my post #198 that you can read again or for the first time about Kent State in Ohio in 1970 and its blood lusting Republican governor James Rhodes who the blood lusting Republican Potus Nixon said "is my favorite governor" right before the fatal shootings 50 years ago during a Vietnam War protest demonstration on campus.

Indeed your fly by night post references 50 years ago during the VN war and when there was a military draft. Indeed, it's gone less negatively for the NG during the 50 years since albeit with some minor blips here and there during civil disturbances. During J6 the Acting SecDef Christopher Miller a retired Army Colonel of intel ops cited in his memo that he did not deploy the DC NG during the insurrection because, while in natural disasters the Guard is very good, the Guard sucks at civil disturbances.

Keep in mind however this is 50 years on, there's no VN war or draft, it is California with its Democratic party governor and legislature, it is Trump activating some CA NG units to LA and that CA NG commanders overseeing the deployment and those commanders in the deployment are much better trained and disciplined operationally than were the ragtag draft dodgers of the Ohio NG.

So your weak question does miss a lot. Glad to help out of course.

 

[Tangmo]

You'll see

Your corn is popping out and onto the floor.

Is what I see now.

Which leaves only what you won't see.

 

[ElChupacabra]

Liberals becoming unhinged. That's for sure going to help in the midterms!

Ah, a new vocabulary word to parrot endlessly? How cute. I mean, to have anyone from the MAGAverse call anyone else "unhinged" when the president they support as if he were a TV evangelist and sends more bizarre social media posts at all hours of the night, is worth a good chuckle.

 

[ElChupacabra]

Summer of Love, 2025.

The unhinged libs don't get it. Most of the country approves of Trump's efforts to deport those who are in the country without permission.

A CBS poll cited on X in April 2025 reported 56% approval for Trump’s deportation program, with a 12-point margin (56%-44%), and 54% support among independents.

Ooh, another parrot.

 

[ElChupacabra]

Pelosi denied

Nancy Pelosi says ‘I take responsibility’ for not having National Guard at the Capitol on Jan. 6 in video shot by her own daughter​

MSN

Still floating that nonsense I see. So your premise here is the Speaker of the House had more power than POTUS in calling in the NG?

 

[VySky]

Still floating that nonsense I see. So your premise here is the Speaker of the House had more power than POTUS in calling in the NG?

She took the blame. So there's that.

 

[ElChupacabra]

She took the blame. So there's that.

Then there's the basic fact POTUS can call in the National Guard during times of unrest, just like he's doing in California. So there's that. The question here is why he didn't do that the moment things went sideways; there's that too. Oh, and there's the fact the Speaker of the House cannot deploy the National Guard, there's that as well.

 

[soap box]

A fourth is still not a majority, and therefore your conjuring with obstruction is a false correlation.

What a flaming piece of crap excuse you have this morning for getting owned by a mad lib.

 

[rhinefire]

Stephen Miller repulses me. He's literally the face of evil.

Could not have said it better

 

[VySky]

Then there's the basic fact POTUS can call in the National Guard during times of unrest, just like he's doing in California. So there's that. The question here is why he didn't do that the moment things went sideways; there's that too. Oh, and there's the fact the Speaker of the House cannot deploy the National Guard, there's that as well.

Send Nancy a note.

 

[ElChupacabra]

Send Nancy a note.

It would mean more from you.

 

[Callen]

Then there's the basic fact POTUS can call in the National Guard during times of unrest, just like he's doing in California. So there's that. The question here is why he didn't do that the moment things went sideways; there's that too. Oh, and there's the fact the Speaker of the House cannot deploy the National Guard, there's that as well.

When you hear the entire clip in context she was talking about taking responsibility for having a process that didn't allow for more power for the Speaker and the Capitol police. She subsequently had the processes changed to ensure more accountability and authorities

However none of that changes the fact that Trump had the authority, the power and the means to quell the riot on January 6th and he consciously and deliberately chose not to. How Trumpers can support this move by Trump in LA and yet defend his actions Jan 6th is disgusting.

 

[What if...?]

You made an absurd claim and I showed that it was based in nothing. Neither I nor anyone else needs Fox News to tell them that the 2020 riots were based in hysteria, and that's what is going on here with Mad Libs who think that they shouldn't have to obey immigration laws because they don't like them. Hysterical virtue signaling is the opposite of any love of freedom.

The problem with this is you come from the positions that all of the protests were riots. They weren’t even half. And a lot of it was professional criminals who had been out of “work” due to Covid. I think in many cases the protesters could have done a better job of distancing themselves from them. Inhibiting them.

But the “cities burning” trope was just not true. There were fires. No city came close to what could honestly be called “burning”. Your media worked y’all good.

I went to both Portland and Seattle when it was mostly over. In both states all of those scenes of mayhem, presented as citywide were actual just the same small area from different angles. Even at the very heart of each the property damage was limited to a couple of blocks. Which is not what you were told.

And you still refuse to consider my point that there have been obvious ways to address the issue without jackboots. And the Republicans have opposed all of them. The undocumented are far too useful to them as scapegoats. Something to point to to explain how the rich are getting richer than ever and none of the rest of us are. It’s those foreigners coming over here and taking our jobs

Deal with the problem and yall might start asking questions about that.

Better to keep you in a hate froth, with your attention focused away from those who are actually responsible.

Over and over and over you return to how we liberals want them here, completely support as many as possible coming for various reasons.

You have not engaged at all on why other solutions have not only never been tried but actively opposed by your side. Why would that be?

The unexamined life is not worth living. Which may be why yall are so unhappy all the time.

 

[Loulit01]

"They thought these people would act civilized? They thought these people gave a damn?"

 

[CaughtInThe]

When do Liberals ever follow laws?

You guys attempted an insurrection, stormed the capital, stole shit, overwhelmed the cops there and beat the shit out of cops on Jan 6th.

Maybe sit this one out.

 

[JMB1911A1]

Most of the time? No, these people being grabbed up by the brownshirts have not broken any laws.

Except for immigration laws but your side seems to think those shouldn’t count.

 

[ElChupacabra]

When you hear the entire clip in context she was talking about taking responsibility for having a process that didn't allow for more power for the Speaker and the Capitol police. She subsequently had the processes changed to ensure more accountability and authorities

Yep. I'd heard her full comment, but it's fun to watch some posters throw themselves into a dung pile all on their own.

However none of that changes the fact that Trump had the authority, the power and the means to quell the riot on January 6th and he consciously and deliberately chose not to. How Trumpers can support this move by Trump in LA and yet defend his actions Jan 6th is disgusting.

Of course, and there is no question at all that he did under that specific circumstance as well. He also had the ability to address the mob via social media to help quell their actions but chose not to for hours. Then when he did, they stopped. Imagine if he'd done that earlier.

 

[Loulit01]

Except for immigration laws but your side seems to think those shouldn’t count.

They're arresting people here legally. That's the problem. They're calling people in for routine immigration hearings and arresting them before they get to the hearings. That's problem.

 

[What if...?]

Hate to be 'that guy', but this is wrong. It would be median, not average.

Ok. Point still stands, though. And I know it’s an exaggeration because it’s not a dumbbell curve, those in the lower aren’t massively lower. The bulge is around that median.