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Trump’s “Christian” supporters do not follow a central message of Jesus

The problem with this assertion is, of course, that in the case of welfare, what you are essentially doing is volunteering your neighbor's money to pay for your good deeds.
Charity is good works. Advocating that the government do it is stealing from your neighbor.
How is it different from what governments around the world have been doing for generations through democratic processes? And why only in the case of welfare? Can I advocate that my neighbors’ money (and mine) be used by the government to pave streets, build dams, to help farmers, feed soldiers who defend us, test drugs that I may never use, etc. without your thinking that is stealing?
 
Jesus said something about taxes once.

Remember what that was?
Show us where Jesus said that. What I remember Jesus saying was render unto Caesar what is Caesar's.
I remember when Christians used to love the first half of that verse and studiously ignored the second part "give to God what belongs to God." Jesus was essentially telling both pro- and anti-government/Roman hearers that they all had it wrong, that once you give to God what belongs to him - everything, selling your possessions to give to the poor, ceasing to work for money and instead working for God, trusting in him for your daily bread - you'll have nothing left for the tax man.

Nowadays it seems that American evangelicals just ignore the whole thing.
 
Chapter and verse? See post #(409). There were no Christians till after the coming of the Holy Spirit. (Acts 2) (Rom. 8:9)

Lees
OK. The term may not have come until later but you are just arguing terms. They certainly were followers of Christ, or what would become Christians.
 
The left wingers hate the Christians.
The only religion that the Left doesn't hate is Islam.
 
MAGA "christianity":

 
spending other people's money is not genuine compassion or generosity
 
What, you mean Jesus didn't hate immigrants and trannies and support tax cuts for the wealthy?
 
spending other people's money is not genuine compassion or generosity
Cool story.

Spending tax money is determined by the public, through their votes. Your opinion of and concern for "compassion or generosity" is completely irrelevant to reality.
 
We now know that the OP has become true:

“Funding is being slashed for essential programs like Medicare and SNAP, the federal food assistance program that millions of low-income Americans rely on.”


The response of the Trump cult Christians:




Jesus weeps profusely while not a peep from the so-called “Christians” who carefully look the other way. The hypocrisy is rampant.
 
We now know that the OP has become true:

“Funding is being slashed for essential programs like Medicare and SNAP, the federal food assistance program that millions of low-income Americans rely on.”


The response of the Trump cult Christians:




Jesus weeps profusely while not a peep from the so-called “Christians” who carefully look the other way. The hypocrisy is rampant.
Something about a rich man, a camel, and the eye of a needle....................
 
Jesus weeps profusely while not a peep from the so-called “Christians” who carefully look the other way. The hypocrisy is rampant.

Christians, given the chance, opted for the “two master” system when they recited “choose this day whom you will serve”……hypocrisy…yes….and much more egregious than the Pharisees that Jesus regaled for being hypocrites….perhaps the continuing decline of the church will lessen some significant level of this hypocrisy ? Right now it seems that repentance is becoming distasteful for the church….
 
If the love of money is the root of all evil Trump the grifter will produce a bountiful crop of evil……
 
Yet more proof of my OP:

Ernst Doubles Down: The Poor Need Jesus, Not Health Insurance​




Woeful bitch. How does she and the rest of the Trump cukt even call themselves Christian when they don’t even share the common values of Jesus the Christ? The real Jesus weeps.
 
Yet more proof of my OP:

Ernst Doubles Down: The Poor Need Jesus, Not Health Insurance​




Woeful bitch. How does she and the rest of the Trump cukt even call themselves Christian when they don’t even share the common values of Jesus the Christ? The real Jesus weeps.
More like Jesus threw up.
 
The problem with this assertion is, of course, that in the case of welfare, what you are essentially doing is volunteering your neighbor's money to pay for your good deeds.
Charity is good works. Advocating that the government do it is stealing from your neighbor.
This is the core argument, with significant validity, but it is a limited argument. It assumes that "money" is a given, that "property" is a given. But they are not givens. Imposing a monetary system on a population requires the use of government force also!

The classic illustration was when Jesus was accused of being a welfare cheat. It turns out in ancient Israel, you could wander onto a field of grain and start eating, as long as "your bushel was empty" when you left. "Property" was not an absolute right, like some sacred Melqartian essence drizzled into the nature of every seed and stalk of wheat. To the contrary, of course, these things came from the earth, water, and sun, and property only gave some power to private people to prohibit some activities.

Now Jesus shocked sensibilities by encouraging the eating even on the Sabbath, which wasn't the law, but Jesus said it was OK to do good at any time regardless. So if you take some money, which didn't really come from IRS agents robbing your neighbor at gunpoint, but from some suits at the Federal Reserve deciding to change a rate, or do quantitative easing, or mint a trillion-dollar coin, or inventing a cryptocurrency scheme and posting some ads ... and if that is used to do good ... do you really need to apologize?
 
Yet more proof of my OP:

Ernst Doubles Down: The Poor Need Jesus, Not Health Insurance​




Woeful bitch. How does she and the rest of the Trump cukt even call themselves Christian when they don’t even share the common values of Jesus the Christ? The real Jesus weeps.
The chutzpah of you trying to tell anybody what Jesus does or thinks. Hubris much? :ROFLMAO:
 
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