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Trump’s “Christian” supporters do not follow a central message of Jesus

Today, any who places faith in Christ is a Christian.

Before (Acts 2) faith was not directed to Who the Person of Christ was.

Believing Jews in the Old Testament were not Christian.

Those saved under the Old Testament economy were not Christian.

Those saved in (Matt. 25) are not Christian.

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The earliest Christians were primarily Jewish individuals who followed Jesus of Nazareth, initially forming a Jewish Christian sect within Judaism. This group believed Jesus was the prophesized Messiah and adhered to Jewish law. Over time, the group expanded to include Gentiles who accepted Christianity.

Key aspects of early Christianity:

Jewish Roots:
Early Christianity emerged from a Jewish messianic movement, with Jesus himself being Jewish and his first followers being Jews.

Jewish Law and Belief:
Jewish Christians initially continued to observe Jewish law and beliefs, viewing Jesus as the fulfillment of Jewish prophecies.

Expansion to Gentiles:
As Christianity spread, it began to include Gentiles (non-Jews) who believed in Jesus but did not necessarily adhere to Jewish law.

The Apostles' Role:
The apostles, especially figures like Peter, John, and Paul, played a crucial role in spreading Christianity and establishing its foundations.

Division and Growth:
The early Christian movement eventually separated from mainstream Judaism, leading to the development of distinct Christian traditions.
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The earliest Christians were primarily Jewish individuals who followed Jesus of Nazareth, initially forming a Jewish Christian sect within Judaism. This group believed Jesus was the prophesized Messiah and adhered to Jewish law. Over time, the group expanded to include Gentiles who accepted Christianity.

Key aspects of early Christianity:

Jewish Roots:
Early Christianity emerged from a Jewish messianic movement, with Jesus himself being Jewish and his first followers being Jews.

Jewish Law and Belief:
Jewish Christians initially continued to observe Jewish law and beliefs, viewing Jesus as the fulfillment of Jewish prophecies.

Expansion to Gentiles:
As Christianity spread, it began to include Gentiles (non-Jews) who believed in Jesus but did not necessarily adhere to Jewish law.

The Apostles' Role:
The apostles, especially figures like Peter, John, and Paul, played a crucial role in spreading Christianity and establishing its foundations.

Division and Growth:
The early Christian movement eventually separated from mainstream Judaism, leading to the development of distinct Christian traditions.
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There were no Christians till after (Acts 2)

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There were no Christians till after (Acts 2)

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Wrong, there were Jewish Christians long before the way was opened up to Gentile Christians in Acts, beginning with Cornelius...

"At this Peter began to speak, and he said: “Now I truly understand that God is not partial, but in every nation the man who fears him and does what is right is acceptable to him." Acts 10:34,35
 
Wrong, there were Jewish Christians long before the way was opened up to Gentile Christians in Acts, beginning with Cornelius...

"At this Peter began to speak, and he said: “Now I truly understand that God is not partial, but in every nation the man who fears him and does what is right is acceptable to him." Acts 10:34,35

That doesn't prove there were Jewish Christians. Where do you get that?

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That doesn't prove there were Jewish Christians. Where do you get that?

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The Bible...the Jews were anticipating the coming of the Messiah so the ones who accepted Jesus as the Messiah were indeed the 1st Christians because they kept a way of life centered on faith in Jesus Christ/following his example...granted, they were not known as Christians at that time but that is still who they were...a title tends to comes after the fact, not before...
 
The Bible...the Jews were anticipating the coming of the Messiah so the ones who accepted Jesus as the Messiah were indeed the 1st Christians because they kept a way of life centered on faith in Jesus Christ/following his example...granted, they were not known as Christians at that time but that is still who they were...a title tends to comes after the fact, not before...

They were not Christians at that time.

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Yes, they were...

The Jews who followed Jesus prior to (Acts 2) were not Christian. They were believing Jews following Him Who they believed was the Messiah. Those still alive at the coming of the Holy Spirit in (Acts 2), would become Christian. Without the indwelling Holy Spirit, one is not Christian.

(Rom. 8:9) "But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his."

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Christian​

noun​

Chris·tian
ˈkris-chən

1: one who professes belief in the teachings of Jesus Christ

No. A Christian is one who professes faith in the Person of Jesus Christ as the Son of God, Lord and Saviour. Just because one professes to follow Jesus teachings does not make them a Christian. Just makes them religious.

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No. A Christian is one who professes faith in the Person of Jesus Christ as the Son of God, Lord and Saviour. Just because one professes to follow Jesus teachings does not make them a Christian. Just makes them religious.

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"one who professes belief in the teachings of Jesus Christ"
 
Here it is:

Matthew 25:40-45​

New International Version​

40 “The King will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.’​

41 “Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels.42 For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink, 43 I was a stranger and you did not invite me in, I needed clothes and you did not clothe me, I was sick and in prison and you did not look after me.’
44 “They also will answer, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or needing clothes or sick or in prison, and did not help you?’
45 “He will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did not do for one of THE LEAST OF THESE, you did not do for me.’

Jesus fed the masses when they ran out of food. Trump is shutting down programs that help to feed those on the lower economic scale. People are now starving in Sudan and elsewhere because Trump shut down selected USAID programs. His buddy Netanyahu is purposely starving to death thousands upon thousands of Palestinian children, and Trump is giving tacit approval by looking the other way.

Jesus healed the sick. Trump is shutting down Medicare programs that help economically deprived adults and children to get proper medical care.

Jesus preached an earthly gospel of empathy and compassion towards others. Trump clearly finds such instances to be signs of weakness, he has no use for them, his right-hand man Stephen Miller comes out and says such right out loud, and his “Christian” fundamentalist followers follow along like lemmings and actually find ways to justify such cruelty, as we will soon see. Fact is, it is quite clear that Trump pretty much can’t stand “the least of these” and doesn’t want to be around them or have anything to do with them. Instead, he cuts as many programs designed to help them as he can in order to provide huge tax cuts for himself and his wealthy elite buddies. More pure corruption.

Jesus would not recognize this hateful “Christian” Trumpcult as followers of his message of love and hope. Jesus would harshly criticize them for their utter hypocrisy just as he did with the Pharisees.

The Trump cult has hijacked patriotism and turned it into hateful xenophobia, and has now hijacked religion and turned it into nothing more than a political action committee that is about as far from Jesus-based Christianity as possible.
This is because none of the MAGA bunch are Christians.
 
The old laws were fulfilled by Christ's sacrifice, so what were they? There was no longer a Jewish religion to follow.

Chapter and verse? See post #(409). There were no Christians till after the coming of the Holy Spirit. (Acts 2) (Rom. 8:9)

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"one who professes belief in the teachings of Jesus Christ"

No. A Christian is one who professes faith in the Person of Jesus Christ as Son of God, Lord and Saviour. Not in the teachings of Christ.

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No. A Christian is one who professes faith in the Person of Jesus Christ as Son of God, Lord and Saviour. Not in the teachings of Christ.

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Wrong.

The teachings of Jesus Christ are the path to the celestial kingdom.
 
Wrong.

The teachings of Jesus Christ are the path to the celestial kingdom.

Only if you believe Jesus Christ as the Son of God and Lord and Saviour. Without that, you have nothing.

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Chapter and verse? See post #(409). There were no Christians till after the coming of the Holy Spirit. (Acts 2) (Rom. 8:9)

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Which was on Nisan 14 33 CE and they were Jews...

"And that man will show you a large, furnished upper room. Get it ready there.” Luke 22:12

"When they arrived, they went up into the upper room where they were staying. There were Peter as well as John and James and Andrew, Philip and Thomas, Bartholomew and Matthew, James the son of Alphaeus, and Simon the zealous one, and Judas the son of James." Acts 1:13

Acts 2...

1.Now while the day of the Festival of Pentecost+ was in progress, they were all together at the same place.

2 Suddenly there was a noise from heaven, just like that of a rushing, stiff breeze, and it filled the whole house where they were sitting.+

3 And tongues as if of fire became visible to them and were distributed, and one came to rest on each one of them,

4 and they all became filled with holy spirit+ and started to speak in different languages, just as the spirit enabled them to speak.+
 
Which was on Nisan 14 33 CE and they were Jews...

"And that man will show you a large, furnished upper room. Get it ready there.” Luke 22:12

"When they arrived, they went up into the upper room where they were staying. There were Peter as well as John and James and Andrew, Philip and Thomas, Bartholomew and Matthew, James the son of Alphaeus, and Simon the zealous one, and Judas the son of James." Acts 1:13

Acts 2...

1.Now while the day of the Festival of Pentecost+ was in progress, they were all together at the same place.

2 Suddenly there was a noise from heaven, just like that of a rushing, stiff breeze, and it filled the whole house where they were sitting.+

3 And tongues as if of fire became visible to them and were distributed, and one came to rest on each one of them,

4 and they all became filled with holy spirit+ and started to speak in different languages, just as the spirit enabled them to speak.+

Well, that is what I have been saying. There were no Christians till after (Acts 2).

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Well, that is what I have been saying. There were no Christians till after (Acts 2).

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Which was after the Lord's evening meal on Nisan 14 33 CE...
 
Weren't the disciples Christian in the time of Christ?
Look at the list of those in attendance...

"There were Peter as well as John and James and Andrew, Philip and Thomas, Bartholomew and Matthew, James the son of Alphaeus, and Simon the zealous one, and Judas the son of James."
 
Which was after the Lord's evening meal on Nisan 14 33 CE...

Pentecost didn't take place till after the death, burial, and resurrection of Jesus Christ. 50 days later.

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