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Trump’s “Christian” supporters do not follow a central message of Jesus

No, (Matt. 25) is no parable. You would like it to be so that you could make it say whatever you wanted. But it's not, meaning you don't know what you're talking about.

Lees

You are still arguing with many of your fellow Christians who say that it is indeed “the parable is the sheep and goats”. You need to tell your fellow Christians that it is they who don’t know what they are talking about.
 
Scipture says "And before him shall be gathered all nations" (Matt. 25:32)

Ah, and now you are being dishonest by not including the entire verse, which goes like this: “32 All the nations will be gathered before him, and he will separate the people one from another as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats.”

Please note the phrase thst says that “…he will separate the PEOPLE one from another as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats.”

It is quite clear that he is separating PEOPLE and not nations. This is the interpretation that most of your fellow Christians see as the correct one. It is the only interpretation that makes sense in the context of the entire parable.
 
lol...Jesus knew hypocrites and liars when he saw them and he wasn't afraid to tell them so...

“Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! because you shut up the Kingdom of the heavens before men; for you yourselves do not go in, neither do you permit those on their way in to go in." Matthew 23:13

"You are from your father the Devil, and you wish to do the desires of your father. That one was a murderer when he began, and he did not stand fast in the truth, because truth is not in him. When he speaks the lie, he speaks according to his own disposition, because he is a liar and the father of the lie." John 8:44

And yes, he did say to judge but to judge according to God's Word/righteousness...

“Stop judging by the outward appearance, but judge with righteous judgment.” John 7:24

Jesus never commanded his followers to pass judgement. Never. That is not their task in life. Only god has the power to judge who is or is not following the right path. The Bible supports this and no amount of cherry picked quotes can change that. The last quote was directed at those judging him based solely on religious law, not a command to go around judging people. He was teaching that strict adherence to religious laws missed the true spirit of how we should view our fellow man, not that there was a right and wrong way to pass judgement. He wanted them to see into the hearts of others with love, not judge them based on rules.
 
Jesus never commanded his followers to pass judgement. Never. That is not their task in life. Only god has the power to judge who is or is not following the right path. The Bible supports this and no amount of cherry picked quotes can change that. The last quote was directed at those judging him based solely on religious law, not a command to go around judging people. He was teaching that strict adherence to religious laws missed the true spirit of how we should view our fellow man, not that there was a right and wrong way to pass judgement. He wanted them to see into the hearts of others with love, not judge them based on rules.
lol...I gave you scriptures of his words that say different...I believe what the Bible says, not somebody that doesn't know what he's talking about...
 
Backatcha! We are not allowed to judge when Netanyahu is starving children to death? Really? Are you sure of that?
Where do you come up with this stuff?
 
Where do you come up with this stuff?

Just answer the question. Are we allowed to judge as Netanyahu is starving Palestinian children to death in Gaza? Why are you afraid to answer fhe question?
 
Just answer the question. Are we allowed to judge as Netanyahu is starving Palestinian children to death in Gaza? Why are you afraid to answer fhe question?
It's a free country - you can hold any opinion you wish no matter how stupid it is.
 
You are still arguing with many of your fellow Christians who say that it is indeed “the parable is the sheep and goats”. You need to tell your fellow Christians that it is they who don’t know what they are talking about.

No, I'm arguing with you. And you admit you don't know what you're talking about when trying to briing 'other Christians' for your suppoert.

You posted the OP. You posted in your words. Now you run and hide behind other Christians. Typical bull shit from the atheist section. Lots of talk till they are required to own up to it.

Lees
 
Ah, and now you are being dishonest by not including the entire verse, which goes like this: “32 All the nations will be gathered before him, and he will separate the people one from another as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats.”

Please note the phrase thst says that “…he will separate the PEOPLE one from another as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats.”

It is quite clear that he is separating PEOPLE and not nations. This is the interpretation that most of your fellow Christians see as the correct one. It is the only interpretation that makes sense in the context of the entire parable.

Of course He is separtaing people. People of nations. Nations of people. Pretty clear.

After the Second coming. Meaning it has nothing to do with the Church or Christians.

Lees
 
Of course He is separtaing people. People of nations. Nations of people. Pretty clear.

After the Second coming. Meaning it has nothing to do with the Church or Christians.

Lees
So, who do the sheep represent if not Christians?
 
So, who do the sheep represent if not Christians?

The sheep represent the nations that would help the Jews during the Tribulation when they were persecuted by the Gentiles.

Lees
 
The sheep represent the nations that would help the Jews during the Tribulation when they were persecuted by the Gentiles.

Lees
But Jesus compared his followers/Christians to sheep...

"the sheep follow him, because they know his voice." 10:4

"I am the fine shepherd; the fine shepherd surrenders his life in behalf of the sheep." John 10:11

"I am the fine shepherd. I know my sheep and my sheep know me." John 10:14

“And I have other sheep, which are not of this fold; those too I must bring in, and they will listen to my voice, and they will become one flock, one shepherd." John 10:16
 
trying to briing 'other Christians' for your suppoert.

Now you run and hide behind other Christians.

I’m not “trying” anything. Chatters chat based on their desires to do so alone. Is Daisy a Christian? Is she disagreeing with you? Why not just admit that many other Christians interpret Matthew 25 differently from you. Are you correct, or are they? How do you know?
 
Of course He is separtaing people. People of nations. Nations of people. Pretty clear.

Yes, he is judging and separating PEOPLE, not “nations”. That is obvious from the context. You have it wrong.


After the Second coming. Meaning it has nothing to do with the Church or Christians.

Many Christians disagree with you on this.
 
So, who do the sheep represent if not Christians?

In (Matt. 25:31-32) they represent the believing nations.

The believing does not always mean 'Christians'. There were no Christians til after (Acts 2)

Lees
 
But Jesus compared his followers/Christians to sheep...

"the sheep follow him, because they know his voice." 10:4

"I am the fine shepherd; the fine shepherd surrenders his life in behalf of the sheep." John 10:11

"I am the fine shepherd. I know my sheep and my sheep know me." John 10:14

“And I have other sheep, which are not of this fold; those too I must bring in, and they will listen to my voice, and they will become one flock, one shepherd." John 10:16

How are these Christians when the Holy Spirit has not yet come? (Acts 2)

They can be sheep in that they are believers. They are not at that time part of the Church.

Lees
 
You sure spend a lot of time in insults and ad hom instead of staying on topic. Is that a Christian way of doing things?
Yes, he is judging and separating PEOPLE, not “nations”. That is obvious from the context. You have it wrong.




Many Christians disagree with you on this.
Yes, he is judging and separating PEOPLE, not “nations”. That is obvious from the context. You have it wrong.




Many Christians disagree with you on this.

(Matt. 25:32) "And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another....."

You say 'many Christians disagree with me'. Who are you calling 'Christian'? And do these so called 'Christians' agree with you, an atheist who mocks God and Christ?

Lees
 
In (Matt. 25:31-32) they represent the believing nations.
"and he will separate people one from another" Matthew 25:32

The believing does not always mean 'Christians'. There were no Christians til after (Acts 2)
Anyone who believes their salvation is through the Lord Jesus Christ, is a Christian...
 
How are these Christians when the Holy Spirit has not yet come? (Acts 2)

They can be sheep in that they are believers. They are not at that time part of the Church.

So? They were still believers in the Christ...
 
"and he will separate people one from another" Matthew 25:32


Anyone who believes their salvation is through the Lord Jesus Christ, is a Christian...

Today, any who places faith in Christ is a Christian.

Before (Acts 2) faith was not directed to Who the Person of Christ was.

Believing Jews in the Old Testament were not Christian.

Those saved under the Old Testament economy were not Christian.

Those saved in (Matt. 25) are not Christian.

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