...according to this [HRC] Guide to safer sex for trans people
VAGINA: We use this word to talk about the genitals of trans women who have had bottom surgery.”
FRONT HOLE: We use this word to talk about internal genitals, sometimes referred to as a vagina. A front hole may self-lubricate, depending on age and hormones.
This cannot be happening.....can it?
Only trans women have vaginas, women have 'front holes' | Mumsnet Discussion
This cannot be happening.....can it?
Only trans women have vaginas, women have 'front holes' | Mumsnet Discussion
This cannot be happening.....can it?
Only trans women have vaginas, women have 'front holes' | Mumsnet Discussion
I do not see where it says "front hole" applies only to cis women, or to cis women at all.
Click the "this" hyperlink in the OP. It's on page one of the HRC guide.
Many transmasculine people taking testosterone will notice an increased sex drive, and your orgasms may feel stronger and more intense. It may, however, be harder for your front hole to...(sexually explicit stuff)
So....
What does cis mean?
Cis is short for cisgender, which means someone who gender/sex congruent, and/or whose gender expression is accepted as standard by larger society (not queer or trans, basically).
So....
Male or female?
Because we already have words for the minutia of categories in between...
This cannot be happening.....can it?
Only trans women have vaginas, women have 'front holes' | Mumsnet Discussion
This cannot be happening.....can it?
Only trans women have vaginas, women have 'front holes' | Mumsnet Discussion
The guide makes it pretty clear that it's defining terms for shorthand. They refer to the front hole as something that's removed in an FTM surgery known as a Vaginectomy.
And then there's this big disclaimer right in front :
"We, as trans people, use a variety of words to describe our gender and our body parts, and these words can be very unique and personal. There’s no one right way to refer to our bodies, but to keep things consistent in this guide, we’ve decided to use the following words in the following ways."
So that's how you translate this?Yes, I did that. Where does it say "front hole" applies to cis women? In fact, where does it mention cis women at all?
ETA: I found what "front hole" applies to.
It applies to trans men without bottom surgery, who obviously have gender dysphoria and therefore have a complicated relationship with their genitals. Page 26.
So no, this has nothing to do with cis women, and no one said cis women don't have vaginas.
FRONT HOLE: We use this word to talk about internal genitals, sometimes referred to as a vagina. A front hole may self-lubricate, depending on age and hormones.
This cannot be happening.....can it?
Only trans women have vaginas, women have 'front holes' | Mumsnet Discussion
Class, pay attention now, because we're renaming parts of our anatomy to suit our delusions (depending on your point of view) or to have more congruence, shall we say, between what we actually are anatomically, and what we claim to be.
So if you have a girl body, but want to be a boy, what do you call your clitoris? That's right, we refer to it as your dick. You'll also have one of those pesky vaginas. So you'll probably want to refer to that as a front hole. So butch, baby! Before you get into that front hole, you'll be presenting a vulva to the world, but we haven't re-named that yet, so there's no mention of that unmentionable in our helpful pamphlet. Stay tuned!
If you have a boy body, but claim to be a girl, you're probably like 80 percent or more of your fellow- (sorry!) transwomen in wanting to hang onto your dick (and we don't just mean that metaphorically, do we?). So what do you call your penis? Well, this may be new to many of you, but we're calling it (a) strapless. Come on now, class, be honest. How many of you have ever heard of that?
This is just ridiculous. And sad, too. I wonder what word the MtT uses with his urologist when he goes in complaining about a discharge from his strapless? Will he also insist that his doctor use some nouveau fantasy name for his enlarged prostate?
Class, what do you think, is 'strapless' going to catch on?
This is absolutely ****ing idiocracy!!!!!
If you are a man you have a penis, if you are a woman you have a vagina..
If you think differently then SHUT THE **** UP and go have your head examined..
You people are going to vote for someone who has written a guide on "front holes"? Ludicrous..
It's the new normal because saying normal is trans exclusionary.So....
What does cis mean?
You do know that this HRC is not that HRC. Right?
Because it's there.They explain this inside of the thread you link to, calamity, so if you'd bothered to read, you might have understood it. They are calling a female-to-male transgender's biological vagina as a "front hole." Personally, I couldn't give three ****s what they want to call their own body parts, and as I won't ever need to know the reference term for a FTM transgenders' vagina, and I can't imagine that you would either, I'm pretty nonplussed about why we're having this conversation.
It's a vagina. Thats what it is and what it's called, even if some people don't want it.The guide makes it pretty clear that it's defining terms for shorthand. They refer to the front hole as something that's removed in an FTM surgery known as a Vaginectomy.
And then there's this big disclaimer right in front :
"We, as trans people, use a variety of words to describe our gender and our body parts, and these words can be very unique and personal. There’s no one right way to refer to our bodies, but to keep things consistent in this guide, we’ve decided to use the following words in the following ways."
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