• This is a political forum that is non-biased/non-partisan and treats every person's position on topics equally. This debate forum is not aligned to any political party. In today's politics, many ideas are split between and even within all the political parties. Often we find ourselves agreeing on one platform but some topics break our mold. We are here to discuss them in a civil political debate. If this is your first visit to our political forums, be sure to check out the RULES. Registering for debate politics is necessary before posting. Register today to participate - it's free!
  • Welcome to our archives. No new posts are allowed here.

Transgenderism vs Christianity

zyzygy said:
The opposite of not existing.
Click to expand...

Well, I am quite certain that any such deity does indeed exist inside a person's head. Now, does that equal exist as in sitting on a log somewhere? No. But exist it does.
 
maquiscat said:
In potential, since we cannot prove they don't exist.
Click to expand...

I do not see that as a true statement. Just because something is an unknown as being possible doesn't make it possible. It just makes it unknown. If you didn't know your high school friend had passed away, you would think in potential, it would be possible to come across them at the local coffee shop. However, if they are dead, no matter what belief you have, it doesn't make it any more possible for you to come accross them at a coffee shop. There is zero possibility for you to meet them there.. they are dead. Your ignorance on the matter doesn't make it potentially possible.
 
RAMOSS said:
I do not see that as a true statement. Just because something is an unknown as being possible doesn't make it possible. It just makes it unknown. If you didn't know your high school friend had passed away, you would think in potential, it would be possible to come across them at the local coffee shop. However, if they are dead, no matter what belief you have, it doesn't make it any more possible for you to come accross them at a coffee shop. There is zero possibility for you to meet them there.. they are dead. Your ignorance on the matter doesn't make it potentially possible.
Click to expand...
It's Schodenger's (sp) cat, basically. Until the status is known, the potential is there's to exist. It is also quite possible that we are dealing with but a single entity, but it is so vast and complex compared to us simple humans, that we, collectively, perceive it differently, even to the point of perceiving different moods or behaviors as separate entities, hence pantheons. And of course these perceptions are colored and influenced by our individual cultures.
 
maquiscat said:
It's Schodenger's (sp) cat, basically. Until the status is known, the potential is there's to exist. It is also quite possible that we are dealing with but a single entity, but it is so vast and complex compared to us simple humans, that we, collectively, perceive it differently, even to the point of perceiving different moods or behaviors as separate entities, hence pantheons. And of course these perceptions are colored and influenced by our individual cultures.
Click to expand...

The thing most people don't understand the point schodenger was making with his thought experiment. He was making it as a criticism of the copehagen interpretation of QM.

That being said.. just because we don't know something is possible or not doesn't mean it is possible.
 
RAMOSS said:
The thing most people don't understand the point schodenger was making with his thought experiment. He was making it as a criticism of the copehagen interpretation of QM.

That being said.. just because we don't know something is possible or not doesn't mean it is possible.
Click to expand...
True enough, but until it is shown not to be possible, why throw out the possibility? Mind you, I do think it is justifiable to toss the possibility to the back burner, or even to stow it in the fridge (to extend the analogy) until something more comes up to further it in either direction.
 
maquiscat said:
True enough, but until it is shown not to be possible, why throw out the possibility? Mind you, I do think it is justifiable to toss the possibility to the back burner, or even to stow it in the fridge (to extend the analogy) until something more comes up to further it in either direction.
Click to expand...

Conversely, until there is some kind of objective evidence, or model that potentially could be tested, why worry about it at all? Until then, it suffers from lack of definition. If you can't even describe what something is, then why worry about if this thing that is not able to be defined exists?
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top Bottom