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Top DOJ Official Defends New Memorandum on Targeting Parents

tacomancer said:
The parents in the video I posted do not deserve to be listened to until they can learn how to be civil
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That is more true of the folks who like to storm bathrooms to harass senators, who protest outside the private homes of supreme court justices.
Unfortunately, the tactics of the left are being copied by those on the right
 
Athanasius68 said:
That is more true of the folks who like to storm bathrooms to harass senators, who protest outside the private homes of supreme court justices.
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Agree. This sort of behavior is no good for our democratic society.

I did cut out the inaccurate commentary though
 
Rawley said:
Did they report these death threat to the police? Did the police say they were not going to investigate? Sorry , but none of their story rings true. They are pissed that parents are questioning their decisions. Put on you big girl.boy panties and listen to the parents.
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Put on your big boy pants and stop hiding behind 'they're lying.' That's the biggest cop out yet.
I've heard the parents' arguments plenty of times. What is not okay is parents trying to intimidate officials just because they disagree with them. Threatening violence to achieve a political outcome is terrorism. Don't be a terrorist. Act like an American who has grown up knowing you don't always get what you want.
 
tacomancer said:
Agree. This sort of behavior is no good for our democratic society.

I did cut out the inaccurate commentary though
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Its not inaccurate at all-- rioting in the street, chanting vacuous slogans, is something which is typically associated with the Left.
As is using law enforcement against political opponents.
 
MaryP said:
Put on your big boy pants and stop hiding behind 'they're lying.' That's the biggest cop out yet.
I've heard the parents' arguments plenty of times. What is not okay is parents trying to intimidate officials just because they disagree with them. Threatening violence to achieve a political outcome is terrorism. Don't be a terrorist. Act like an American who has grown up knowing you don't always get what you want.
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Its actually not terrorism.
 
Athanasius68 said:
Its not inaccurate at all-- rioting in the street, chanting vacuous slogans, is something which is typically associated with the Left.
As is using law enforcement against political opponents.
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Please prove each of these assertions. Probably your best bet is popping data since it’s about public perception, but I will accept articles from high quality news agencies, or university studies

1. [stuff] Typically associated with the left
2. Using law enforcement against political opponents.
 
MaryP said:
Sure it is.
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Actually it isn't.
This is the USA and people are free to have spirited debated.
And law about "threatening violence" has a very high threshold to reach in order for it be considered possibly illegal.
And an even higher threshold for it to concern of the feds.
Thems the facts.
 
GummyVitamins said:
Damn, those hillbillies ironically took a page out of the Maxine Waters playbook. Looking forward to the DoJ investigation into her.
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They already know who she is.
 
Athanasius68 said:
Actually it isn't.
This is the USA and people are free to have spirited debated.
And law about "threatening violence" has a very high threshold to reach in order for it be considered possibly illegal.
And an even higher threshold for it to concern of the feds.
Thems the facts.
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Spirited debate doesn't include personal threats. Sorry.
 
MaryP said:
The redhead in the pony tail?

I didn't hear her threaten anyone though. Maybe I missed the video you're talking about?
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Different protest she was leading/involved in where she hit someone. This isn't her first in the least.

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Kate Burns Breast Cancer patient punched by Shiva Bagheri anti masker during West Hollywood protests against LA County mask mandate.
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In fact, I read in some article that she was charged and convicted over the summer for I think organizing the protests without proper permits, and she was fined and/or had to do community service.
 
MaryP said:
Are you as opposed to these parents' behavior as you are about Maxine's?
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I am more opposed to their behavior than Maxine's because she is a coward who riled up a crowd rather than actually doing what she said. I'm just enjoying the hypocrisy in this thread is all.
 
Athanasius68 said:
Actually it isn't.
This is the USA and people are free to have spirited debated.
And law about "threatening violence" has a very high threshold to reach in order for it be considered possibly illegal.
And an even higher threshold for it to concern of the feds.
Thems the facts.
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The GTD defines terrorism as:​

“The threatened or actual use of illegal force and violence by a non-state actor to attain a political, economic, religious, or social goal through fear, coercion, or intimidation.”
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MaryP said:
Spirited debate doesn't include personal threats. Sorry.
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No, it doesn't.
But it also isn't necessarily against the law.
Moreover, the law is also clear that involves threats against people and property of the USA.
Local school boards ain't that-- thus no role for the FBI.
 
Athanasius68 said:
No, it doesn't.
But it also isn't necessarily against the law.
Moreover, the law is also clear that involves threats against people and property of the USA.
Local school boards ain't that-- thus no role for the FBI.
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School board members who are personally targeted aren't people of the USA?

It's WRONG, we both know it. I hate being in a country that says Hey, that's okay, threaten away!
It's not how I was brought up, not how most of us were brought up.
 
MaryP said:
School board members who are personally targeted aren't people of the USA?

It's WRONG, we both know it. I hate being in a country that says Hey, that's okay, threaten away!
It's not how I was brought up, not how most of us were brought up.
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Its also wrong to go to the home of Justice Kavanaugh of take videos of Sen Synema in the bathroom.
Are these things terrorism? No. Does it require the feds to open up investigations? No.

Politicized law enforcement is not the way to go.
 
Cope said:
Was there a death threat? Like ACTUAL death threat or is this more hyperbolic guessing?

Please cite that death threat.
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FBI to investigate threats made against school board members, teachers • New Jersey Monitor

WASHINGTON — The Department of Justice has directed the FBI to meet with local governments and law enforcement to discuss strategies for dealing with increasing threats to teachers and school board members spurred by a conservative backlash against discussions of race in public schools. “Threats...
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Athanasius68 said:
Its also wrong to go to the home of Justice Kavanaugh of take videos of Sen Synema in the bathroom.
Are these things terrorism? No. Does it require the feds to open up investigations? No.

Politicized law enforcement is not the way to.
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Those two things have nothing to do with death threats. They are not comparable in the least.
 
Checkerboard Strangler said:
Sssshhhhh, tut tut, if we weren't so mean to them none of this would have happened!
Just ask @cpwill ! 🤣
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Why insist on attributing to me things I did not say? Is your own position so indefensible, so deeply flawed even to you that it requires straw men to obscure it?
 
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