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This morning Trump declared defacto martial law because of one broken windshield, do you support it?

Do you support martial law?

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OpportunityCost said:
I blame Democrats because they have had a long time to change course on their vision of immigration. I say that because the legal version of immigration is vastly different than Democrats version. The majority of voters wanted illegal immigration stopped. It's because criminals (yes, every immigrant that isn't here legally is by definition breaking the law) think they are entitled to break the law and get away with it.
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Your policy opinion is not a justification for military occupation.
 
Absentglare said:
Your policy opinion is not a justification for military occupation.
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oh, so now the Oligarchs need 'justification'. ???

i don't think so, they will do whatever they want, whenever they want.....and they will lead the sheep into the slaughter rooms of their choice.

all they need to do is create a little chaos.

does LA ring a bell? keep the Dialectic going my sheep friends.


What The Riot Planners Are Plotting To Do Next Could Be Far Bigger Than The Chaos That We Are Currently Witnessing; Chaos is beginning to erupt in other areas of the country, and what the riot planners have scheduled for Saturday is truly frightening


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Absentglare said:
Trump’s memo conflates protest with rebellion, he has now openly declared that he will be suppressing our constitutional rights with our military.

Why are you defending this? No one can force you to defend this.
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Hmmm standing on a burning car dressed in fatigues and holding a Mexican flag. I think that could easily be called something other than just protest.
 
pedex said:
Hmmm standing on a burning car dressed in fatigues and holding a Mexican flag. I think that could easily be called something other than just protest.
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Whatever propaganda is showing you is not a justification for the military occupation of Los Angeles.
 
Mycroft said:
I think you should look up the definition of terms before you start tossing them around. You can start with "martial law".
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Perhaps you should look up the definition of "leader".
Newsom appeals to protesters to be peaceful
published at 21:00
21:00
"Please, please do it peacefully" - that's Newsom's message to those protesting against Trump's immigration raids.

He notes that some protests have turned violent.

"Several dozen law-breakers became violent and destructive," Newsom says. "They vandalised property, they tried to assault police officers.

"I want to be clear about this: If you incite violence, or destroy our communities, you are going to be held to account," the governor adds.
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www.bbc.com

LA protests live: partial curfew imposed as California governor attacks Trump for 'inflaming' unrest

California Governor Gavin Newsom blasts the federal government's response to anti-immigration raid protests as "purposefully inflammatory".
www.bbc.com www.bbc.com
 
pedex said:
Hmmm standing on a burning car dressed in fatigues and holding a Mexican flag. I think that could easily be called something other than just protest.
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Could you, please, point me to any violent protests during the Biden admin?
Next question, who provoked all of this?
 
We're waiting for ICE to come-a-calling. Our governor has given the go-ahead to deputizing LE to start raids. So worrisome for our communities. This should make our gubernatorial election a boost for Spanberger.🤞
 
OpportunityCost said:
Such a phony response, take your passive aggressive nonsense somewhere else.
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Yours have no more substance than mine...just own it...you accepted the parallel (actual conclusion of debate) and only made it about me since.
 
Lursa said:
Yours have no more substance than mine...just own it...you accepted the parallel (actual conclusion of debate) and only made it about me since.
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Because all you do is snipe and bait. Passive aggressive start to finish. Jan 6 isn't the subject matter; no matter how badly you want it to be, and you are smart enough to know you are trying to derail the topic by mentioning it. So, you are a little late to be whining about anything.
 
Mycroft said:
To a limited extent. Didn't you read his memo? Here: "To the extent that protests or acts of violence directly inhibit the execution of the laws, they constitute a form of rebellion against the authority of the Government of the United States.


Nobody has a constitutional right to directly inhibit the execution of laws.


I think you'll find that I ALWAYS defend the lives of law enforcement when they are faced with attacks.
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Inhibiting the execution of the laws is done by Trump every day. He just declared himself in rebellion against the authority of the Government of the United States. A government that he seems to forget his office is but one equal part of.

But his memo doesn’t make this so. Resistance to law enforcement is not rebellion against the government.
 
OpportunityCost said:
Because all you do is snipe and bait. Passive aggressive start to finish. Jan 6 isn't the subject matter; no matter how badly you want it to be, and you are smart enough to know you are trying to derail the topic by mentioning it. So, you are a little late to be whining about anything.
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Oh stop complaining. You conceded and are mad. Dont care. If you could have countered my post, you would have. Instead, you conceded and are mad that I called you out on it. 🤷
 
OpportunityCost said:
I blame Democrats because they have had a long time to change course on their vision of immigration. I say that because the legal version of immigration is vastly different than Democrats version. The majority of voters wanted illegal immigration stopped. It's because criminals (yes, every immigrant that isn't here legally is by definition breaking the law) think they are entitled to break the law and get away with it.
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Every person who speeds is a criminal by your definition. They think they are entitled to speed because they usually get away with it. We are a country with mostly criminals on our highways. In fact, if you were to really look at everything that most Americans do every day they would qualify as criminals on a daily basis. So all Americans think they are entitled to break the law and get always with it. They just want the other guy to be held responsible for the very things that they do. With such a lawless society no wonder nothing is done about illegal aliens except to use them for cheap labor and political debate fodder. Maybe if we cracked down on every business that criminally hires them they wouldn’t see any advantage to coming here illegally. But no politician ever points the finger at this problem because it doesn’t inflame the emotions of voters they want curry support from. Even if mass deportation would succeed who is going to do the same work for the same pay as all the illegals that our country has been taking advantage of for so long? All of this is just political theater that logistically never had a realistic chance of success and even if it somehow did the economic consequences would not be the positive thing that the gung ho deportation supporters think it would.
 
Ishm said:
Interesting how Trump wasn't interested in deploying anyone to stop the Capitol being invaded and stopping people calling for the deaths of congress members while preventing an election result from being formalised (just loved watching it on TV), but he is absolutely fizzing about sending armed troops into the streets to stop a street protest.

Here's a thoughtful prophesy from many years back for the cultists. Be incredibly careful what you ask for, because your orange King will not give even the tiniest care about you once he decides that hurting you might benefit him. And no one knows where that deranged mind is going to turn next.

First they came for the Communists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Communist
Then they came for the Socialists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Socialist
Then they came for the trade unionists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a trade unionist
Then they came for the Jews
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Jew
Then they came for me
And there was no one left
To speak out for me
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Trump offered the National Guard to Pelosi and she said no, so to be more accurate you should have said Interesting how Pelosi wasn't interested in deploying anyone to stop the Capitol being invaded
 
JMR said:
He didn't seem to have any problem pardoning "criminal Americans who were attacking federal property and federal law enforcement."
Please explain the differences here.....
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OK to be fair, arrest all of these people, jail them for years then let them out. Then things will be even.

You should be ok with deploying the military to help in that regard so things can be even.
 
pedex said:
A military occupation hasn't occurred yet. That would take more troops than we have to do an actual occupation .
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Trump illegally ordered active-duty US military to deploy against American civilians.
 
Absentglare said:
This morning, Trump declared defacto martial law.

www.whitehouse.gov

Department of Defense Security for the Protection of Department of Homeland Security Functions

MEMORANDUM FOR THE SECRETARY OF DEFENSE THE ATTORNEY GENERAL
www.whitehouse.gov www.whitehouse.gov

He now is following through on what he said before the election, that he would turn the military against his political opponents. Do you support it, yes or no?
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Mycroft said:
I think you should look up the definition of terms before you start tossing them around. You can start with "martial law".
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I kind of hate to agree with Mycroft, but, he's right.

If folks holler Wolf at everything, when the Wolf shows up, the warning will mean nothing.
 
OpportunityCost said:
Maybe if the Democrats had been enforcing the law in the first place, we wouldn't be here. They didn't so, here we are.
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Again, your political opinion is not a justification to use the military. We use the political process.

You’re arguing to break the terms of civility.
 
Absentglare said:
Trump illegally ordered active-duty US military to deploy against American civilians.
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Have all civilian laws and control been halted and replaced with military law and control?
 
Mason66 said:
OK to be fair, arrest all of these people, jail them for years then let them out. Then things will be even.

You should be ok with deploying the military to help in that regard so things can be even.
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Your "logic" escapes comprehension.
 
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