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This morning Trump declared defacto martial law because of one broken windshield, do you support it?

Do you support martial law?

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rahl said:
And tasked with domestic defense, which includes insurrection, rebellion and/or riots.

There is no such power as martial law in the US.
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Trump is using the military, today, to unlawfully exert control over state and local leaders in California.
 
OpportunityCost said:
Passive aggressive for the lose. Both situations are bad. Both situations need or needed a stronger response. Whatabout shouldn't be a debating strategy.
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Glad that you accept the parallels.
 
Fearandloathing said:
When it comes to dictators any excuse will do.

I was not alone in warning America about marshal law.

The worst is yet to come. Withing days of the end of the mid terms where Trump will be reduced to a legislative minority, he will use "illegals" as an excuse to declare martial law,,,this ending elections forever.
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Accurate and correct about Trump and the midterm voting throughout the states.

However....

As I've posted repeatedly to so many posters, there is no federal martial law.

There's no statute enabling a federal martial law. There is nothing in the Constitution enabling a federal martial law.

Trump-Miller can try workarounds but martial law is radical and drastic so military chiefs and commanders know it if and when they see it and reject it as illegal and unconstitutional.

For the umteenthzillionth time: THERE IS NO FEDERAL MARTIAL LAW.


The Potus/C'nC has no authority whatsoever to declare a federal martial law.
 
rahl said:
National guard isn’t martial law.

I know. I can simply point out there is no such power as “martial law” in the US.
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There is no federal martial law in the USA. Not by statute and not by the Constitution. The Potus has no authority or powers of martial law.

Any governor can declare martial law in the state -- in a part of the state or for the state as a whole. The National Guard in each state is exempt from Posse Comitatus while it is under the command of the governor in the state.

The NG federalized becomes subject to Posse Comitatus because it becomes federal and there is no federal martial law in the USA.


There is no federal martial law in the USA -- never has been and still not.
 
Absentglare said:
Trump is using the military, today, to unlawfully exert control over state and local leaders in California.
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Trump has been hellbent for years to militarize cities in Blue States and then to militarize the Blue States themselves. This is well known to Blue State leaders.

Trump considers LA and CA the state he loves to hate as his opening to this madman pursuit. Trump and MAGAs are on a collision course with the armed forces because of this and this alone. There's much more against Trump of course, but this is the proverbial line in the sand.

The USA armed forces will not seize and occupy American cities -- and states -- to oppress and suppress American civilian citizens and other civilians. Abusing and perverting the armed forces in this way is why the Generalissimo Trump and MAGAs want all the troops abroad to "come home now" to create the numbers for Trump to abuse the military on this grand a scale. This has been one of the Grand Schemes of the Generalissimo Trump and MAGAs since Trump's training wheels presidency. Now in Trump 2.0 they're going for it. Yet I emphasize, the armed forces will not do this and there are no generals and admirals in the armed forces who support Trump in any of this fascist madhouse lunacy.

This itself is a collision course between the armed forces and the Generalissimo Trump and his acolytes. LA is the first inning.
 
Absentglare said:
He’s doing this in your name: you, plural, his supporters.

He’s not doing this to protect us, the people who actually live here who insist that we don’t need him to round up and prosecute our neighbors because they didn’t fill out some paperwork or whatever bureaucratic crime they’re accused of.

You expect me to not care when Trump hurts my country?
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you mean illegally here people who are breaking US laws by being here illegally ?

these are the neighbors you want to keep around/protect ?

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Absentglare said:
This morning, Trump declared defacto martial law.

www.whitehouse.gov

Department of Defense Security for the Protection of Department of Homeland Security Functions

MEMORANDUM FOR THE SECRETARY OF DEFENSE THE ATTORNEY GENERAL
www.whitehouse.gov www.whitehouse.gov

He now is following through on what he said before the election, that he would turn the military against his political opponents. Do you support it, yes or no?
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I absolutely do NOT want federal mititary units enforcing law within the U.S. I'm OK with National Guard units being used - only temporarily - to assist local and state law enforcement units in emergency situtuations.
 
stealthycat said:
you mean illegally here people who are breaking US laws by being here illegally ?

these are the neighbors you want to keep around/protect ?

News Releases and Statements

www.ice.gov www.ice.gov
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Yes I’m aware that you can point to some big government bureaucrat to explain why your side sent in the military to occupy Los Angeles.
 
Absentglare said:
Yes I’m aware that you can point to some big government bureaucrat to explain why your side sent in the military to occupy Los Angeles.
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sent in military to stop rioting/burning and control order when the illegals in LA swarmed the streets attacking Federal agents and destroying

liberals love it of course - the chaos/destruction is what they need to fuel the fires of hate/division
 
Absentglare said:
This morning, Trump declared defacto martial law.

www.whitehouse.gov

Department of Defense Security for the Protection of Department of Homeland Security Functions

MEMORANDUM FOR THE SECRETARY OF DEFENSE THE ATTORNEY GENERAL
www.whitehouse.gov www.whitehouse.gov

He now is following through on what he said before the election, that he would turn the military against his political opponents. Do you support it, yes or no?
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Are illegals now considered political opponents? I’m all for rounding up illegals, especially those with criminal records and send them back to the countries that they seem to be so proud of.
 
rahl said:
The president doesn’t need the governors approval.
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🤷‍♂️ Then you agree that the president is using the military to take control away from state and local governments. AKA, exercising martial law, as he declared in his memo.
 
Absentglare said:
🤷‍♂️ Then you agree that the president is using the military to take control away from state and local governments.
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No. He’s using the military to repress an insurrection. They are now backup to LAPD who has finally decided to act.
Absentglare said:
AKA, exercising martial law, as he declared in his memo.
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There is no such thing as martial law in the US.
 
rahl said:
No. He’s using the military to repress an insurrection.
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You think he’s repressing his own rogue government takeover?
rahl said:
They are now backup to LAPD who has finally decided to act.

There is no such thing as martial law in the US.
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You keep contradicting yourself. Trump is using the military as domestic law enforcement. Not only did Newsom denounce Trump forcing soldiers into California, every single democratic governor denounced Trump’s violation of California’s state rights.
 
Absentglare said:
Trump, in direct opposition to the governor of California, sent in the military to enforce Trump’s personal vision of the law.
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I blame Democrats because they have had a long time to change course on their vision of immigration. I say that because the legal version of immigration is vastly different than Democrats version. The majority of voters wanted illegal immigration stopped. It's because criminals (yes, every immigrant that isn't here legally is by definition breaking the law) think they are entitled to break the law and get away with it.
 
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