Third embassy to open in Jerusalem in under two weeks [W:159]

[Apocalypse]

Please go back and reread my post for what I actually said and not for what your imagination says that I said, so that you may discover for yourself that I used a simile. (You do remember what similes are from high school--right? ...Right??)

Sure thing.
No one called them enemy combatants or anything similar to that, your point is nonexistent.

 

[Apocalypse]

Right-wing propaganda. Please see Post #95.

The truth isn't 'right wing propaganda'. Perhaps you could address by now how it isn't the truth (which you can't since it is) instead of beating around the bush.

 

[CJ 2.0]

Right-wing propaganda. Please see Post #95.

Lol. Uh-huh.


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[Phys251]

Sure thing.
No one called them enemy combatants or anything similar to that, your point is nonexistent.

Alright, let's review. You said:

Israel defends itself as is its right, and it doesn't target innocent civilians, that's just a propaganda lie.

to which I replied:

Oh that's neat. Kind of like the trick that Presidents Bush, Obama, and Trump have used to call civilian casualties of drone strikes "enemy combatants."

You obviously failed to note the context of my word "like," which was deliberately designed to be a simile. It is not my fault that you do not know how to properly interpret a simile.

Furthermore, over a hundred Gazans are dead, and tens of thousands of them are injured.

But you don't care because you have no empathy for an entire group of people who are given almost zero freedom. They aren't even allowed to leave that ****hole if they wanted to, because Israel refuses to let them out. Israel chooses to maintain a powder keg and then overreacts when it occasionally goes off.

 

[ElChupacabra]

I believe the Russians have also recognized Jerusalem as Israel’s capital, notwithstanding they have not moved their embassy.

https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.tim...gnizes-west-jerusalem-as-israels-capital/amp/


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Based on the article they recognize West Jerusalem as Israel's capital with East Jerusalem as a potential Palestinian capital. Even after Trump's initial comments about Jerusalem being Israel's capital (assuming the entire city), Tillerson added that the comment didn't include any final status on Jerusalem.

 

[CJ 2.0]

Based on the article they recognize West Jerusalem as Israel's capital with East Jerusalem as a potential Palestinian capital. Even after Trump's initial comments about Jerusalem being Israel's capital (assuming the entire city), Tillerson added that the comment didn't include any final status on Jerusalem.

Exactly. So what’s the problem? This shouldn’t be a big deal.


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[Apocalypse]

Alright, let's review. You said:



to which I replied:



You obviously failed to note the context of my word "like," which was deliberately designed to be a simile. It is not my fault that you do not know how to properly interpret a simile.

Furthermore, over a hundred Gazans are dead, and tens of thousands of them are injured.

But you don't care because you have no empathy for an entire group of people who are given almost zero freedom. They aren't even allowed to leave that ****hole if they wanted to, because Israel refuses to let them out. Israel chooses to maintain a powder keg and then overreacts when it occasionally goes off.

Majority of them are terrorists and that is Israel's right as any other country's right to defend its borders against mobs led by terrorists that attack the fence some of them armed with weapons and explosives.
The blockade exists because Israel needs to monitor what goes in and out of the Gaza Strip due to it being controlled by a terror group that launches thousands of attacks on Israeli civilians, it's extremely legitimate and called for in the most basic sense of self defense. From there to "Israel targets civilians" there is a long way but I'm sure you already realize it and you're just trying to save your claim instead of realizing that you were promoting a lie.

Do notice that the word 'like' carries a meaning with it, you were already told that no one called them enemy combatants or anything similar to that, thus bringing it up in your reply (and as your reply) to the comment calling you out on that lie you made isn't helpful.

 

[Aristaeus]

Majority of them are terrorists and that is Israel's right as any other country's right to defend its borders against mobs led by terrorists that attack the fence some of them armed with weapons and explosives.
The blockade exists because Israel needs to monitor what goes in and out of the Gaza Strip due to it being controlled by a terror group that launches thousands of attacks on Israeli civilians, it's extremely legitimate and called for in the most basic sense of self defense. From there to "Israel targets civilians" there is a long way but I'm sure you already realize it and you're just trying to save your claim instead of realizing that you were promoting a lie.

Do notice that the word 'like' carries a meaning with it, you were already told that no one called them enemy combatants or anything similar to that, thus bringing it up in your reply (and as your reply) to the comment calling you out on that lie you made isn't helpful.

Why did Israeli snipers shoot a Canadian medic in the legs twice?

 

[Apocalypse]

Why did Israeli snipers shoot a Canadian medic in the legs twice?

As long as there isn't any info regarding such incidents there's no point discussing them.

 

[Aristaeus]

As long as there isn't any info regarding such incidents there's no point discussing them.

Yeah, you're right. Let's not discuss Israeli snipers shooting medics who are tending injured civilians.

 

[Apocalypse]

Yeah, you're right. Let's not discuss Israeli snipers shooting medics who are tending injured civilians.

Is there any information regarding the incident? Can a conclusion be drawn based on nothing? Apparently you think so. Goes to show your credibility more than anyhting else.

 

[Aristaeus]

Is there any information regarding the incident? Can a conclusion be drawn based on nothing? Apparently you think so. Goes to show your credibility more than anyhting else.

Yes. A Canadian medic, clearly marked as such, is shot in the legs by an Israeli sniper during a lull in the protests. There was no smoke or teargas in the area. His rescuer, another medic, was later shot in the chest while treating injured people and died.

 

[Apocalypse]

Yes. A Canadian medic, clearly marked as such, is shot in the legs by an Israeli sniper during a lull in the protests. There was no smoke or teargas in the area. His rescuer, another medic, was later shot in the chest while treating injured people and died.

According to their words. From there to IDF ordered innocent medic taking care of the injured to be shot in the leg there's a long way.

 

[Aristaeus]

According to their words. From there to IDF ordered innocent medic taking care of the injured to be shot in the leg there's a long way.

I never said the IDF ordered it. We know that IDF snipers shot two clearly marked medics in seperate incidents, killing one of them. Once may be an accident, but twice looks like either extreme carelessness or intentional.

 

[HowardBThiname]

How about this, maybe Israel should stop killing innocent civilians and pretending like they should just bend over and take it.

And before you make a pathetic comeback about terrorism, the last time I checked, a decent nation doesn't target innocent civilians because of the bad behavior of a tiny few group of people.

Israel does not target innocent civilians. In fact, Israel sends "knock bombs" to warn gazans that a building from which a rocket was launched, or a building that is housing weapons and rockets will soon be bombed. And, you know what the gazans then do? They purposefully send those innocent civilians, including small children, to those sites so they can be killed and then the gazans can wail that Israel is killing innocents. The blood, actually, is on the gazan's hands. It would serve you well to remember that.

 

[ElChupacabra]

Exactly. So what’s the problem? This shouldn’t be a big deal.


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The problem is when it's presented as "Jerusalem" implying the whole city. Netanyahu refers to the city as the "undivided capital" which rules out a Palestinian section while Russia and the US haven't made the same declaration and seem more open to the possibility of a city governed by both Palestinians and Jews.

 

[Tigerace117]

Is there any information regarding the incident? Can a conclusion be drawn based on nothing? Apparently you think so. Goes to show your credibility more than anyhting else.

Well, you concluded that the journalist killed a while back was Hamas based on no evidence, so yes, apparently a conclusion can be drawn based on nothing.

 

[Apocalypse]

Well, you concluded that the journalist killed a while back was Hamas based on no evidence, so yes, apparently a conclusion can be drawn based on nothing.

Didn't say he was Hamas.

 

[Phys251]

Israel does not target innocent civilians.

Already addressed in this thread. Tell me, Howard: Which side has more dead civilians?

 

[NO1]

https://www.timesofisrael.com/paraguay-becomes-third-country-to-open-embassy-in-jerusalem/

The Paraguayan leader called it a “historic event,” adding, that this occasion “is of special significance because it expresses the sincere friendship and brave solidarity between Paraguay and Israel.”

Said Cartes: “From the depth of my heart, I appreciate this country that courageously defends its right to live in peace and it is building a praiseworthy economically prosperous state that ensures its future and that of its children.”

The third embassy in Jerusalem.

 

[HowardBThiname]

Already addressed in this thread. Tell me, Howard: Which side has more dead civilians?

The side that shoves their women and children in front of their fighters and in the line of fire.

Were you unaware of that?

 

[Phys251]

The side that shoves their women and children in front of their fighters and in the line of fire.

Were you unaware of that?

How about this, maybe Israel stop giving Gazans about as many rights as prisoners get and we might not even be having this discussion.

 

[Apocalypse]

Already addressed in this thread

No you didn't.

 

[Apocalypse]

How about this, maybe Israel stop giving Gazans about as many rights as prisoners get and we might not even be having this discussion.

Maybe Israel has the right to defend itself against the terrorists that control that territory and we can continue from there.

 

[NO1]

How about this, maybe Israel stop giving Gazans about as many rights as prisoners get and we might not even be having this discussion.

Already happaned, in 2005 Israel left Gaza and evacuated all the Jews from there. The result is well known, they established terror state which starves their own people in order to lunch rockets to Israel and building terror tunnels.